Why does Abrams keeps giving the middle finger to Trek fans?
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Space is the boring empty stuff that separates things of interest. Starships take people from one point in space to another, from world to world, or to anomolies or to other ships and stations.
I don't understand your logic. Space is not exciting, space separates exciting things; in the wonderous 23rd century, space will be even less interesting than it is now, it will be mundane to anyone that has to spend hours, days, weeks or even years travelling through it. By your logic, space is an end itself, its not, its the strange new worlds that get our adventurers off their backsides. For some reason you equate building on Earth with staying on Earth, its a bloody starship.
And trek has never been about space, but about what is to be found in space.
Please do something about that...
It should be pretty clear to everyone by now that you just can't reason with some people...
Please do something about that...
It should be pretty clear to everyone by now that you just can't reason with some people...
I do try, and I am a newbie.
From now on, I promise to take a deep breath next time I need to hit 'reply'
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Please do something about that...
It should be pretty clear to everyone by now that you just can't reason with some people...
Ah, I see. You equate forcing someone to believe your right, and sing your praises "being able to reason with people."
No, sorry, but that's not "reasoning with people."
And many of those interesting things in space, are built there by people. And if you're not willing to do that yourself, you're either apathetic about it as a collective whole, or irrationally terrified of it as a collective whole.
Either results in a people that will not go anywhere, will never connect with other people and never build a Federation.
And you're right about the "mundane" part. That's the whole point, really. If it is mundane, then they've been building things in space, and doing things in space for ages. There's nothing to be afraid of, so working there is par for the course. So why aren't they doing it? The reason left is apathy.
Nice optimistic better people we've become - but not really.
And all for what? A kewl visual of Kirk driving up to the ridiculous concept of a starship under construction open to everything?
Excuse me if I think there are more important things than kewl visuals.
I don't feel I've been given the finger, yet. I feel, after eons of hungering for new Trek I'm finally being thrown a bone. I'm waiting to see if it has any meat on it...
The ship is being built on the ground for one reason, and one reason only, so that JJ could have that Tom Cruise meeting his destiny shot, story logic and common sense be damned.
That's not storytelling, it's pandering to the morons.
That's not storytelling, it's pandering to the morons.
Gimme a few minutes...
How 'bout this?
How 'bout this?
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I have this
conwin's law - The game that everyone is playing! This is how it's played, in a similar fashion to the Godwin's law - here at Trekbbs, when someone tries to inject a conversation about the construction of the enterprise and the relative merits of earth/space into a thread that isn't about that topic, it's effectively over and they should be treated to a picture of Hitler admiring the construction of the enterprise.
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Just a teensy snobbish, no?
It's a nice shot, and movies are about nice shots, as much as they are about story. It is a visual medium after all.
That said...
Ground Constructionwin'd!
"Every man is a king so long as he has someone to look down on." - Sinclair Lewis
Now, now... that's bringing logic into the discussion and we'll have none of that around here.
Gimme a few minutes...
How 'bout this?
Damned Temporal Cold War just keeps getting worse and worse!
Then put him in the pond! If he floats...he's an anti-Trek heretic!
Then put him in the pond! If he floats...he's an anti-Trek heretic!
And then, we burn him
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