Mitchell and SG-Continuum!?

[Silversmok3]

Okay,what follows is a huge spoiler for SG-Continuum,so if you haven't seen it here's your last chance.

At the end ,its Mitchell who takes down Baal.However, to do so he stuck himself in the 30's.
Since Praxion wouldn't exist yet in that timeline he couldn't go 'back to the future' hehe.

So ,would I be correct in saying that A ) Cam Mitchell is stuck living his life in the 40's ,including WWII.

And B) He's alive in history twice?

I suppose it woudnt be all bad living in the 40's. He'd make a killing in the stock market lol....

 

[RoJoHen]

That is exactly what happened.

 

[DRMidnite]

Sounds reasonable to me.

 

[biotech]

He couldn't risk fighting in WWII, if he killed even one soldier who shouldn't have been killed in the original timeline, he could end up causing as much damage as Baal.

 

[Hermiod]

^When he arrived ten years before Baal turned up he, most likely found somewhere nice and out of the way to live, then went back there and lived a quiet life until he died.

Someone with his training and skill could have changed the outcomes of missions other people might have otherwise been sent on, and he certainly would have risen through the ranks very quickly.

 

[RoJoHen]

^Until the universe EXPLODED from the paradox he created.

Unless this is an alternate reality, which I think is just a lazy way to deal with time travel.

 

[Hermiod]

^Until the universe EXPLODED from the paradox he created.

Unless this is an alternate reality, which I think is just a lazy way to deal with time travel.

Arguably, it is an alternate reality.

 

[Silversmok3]

^Until the universe EXPLODED from the paradox he created.

Unless this is an alternate reality, which I think is just a lazy way to deal with time travel.

Arguably, it is an alternate reality.

Is it?Remember Baals tampering caused characters and buildings to dissapear.In this movie it looks like there's only one reality to play with.

 

[The Wormhole]

Mitchell had one last adventure in the past. Mitchell waited until his younger self, and Carter graduated from the Air Force Academy. Jack O'Neill was still a cadet because he's a rebelious teenager on the run from his abusive uncle challenging every authority figure he meets. But he still gets involved with this. So elderly Mitchell, and younger Lt. Mitchell, Lt. Carter, Cadet O'Neill, and a younger Daniel, join Col. Hammond on a mission through the gate first to Chu'lak to convince younger Teal'c to join them, then to P3X-514 where Ba'al is once again trying to mess with the timeline. This time around Ba'al has an ugly ass tattoo all over his face and has a pet space squid. The mission is a success, and for some reason Jack O'Neill is instantly made an officer and promoted to Colonel.

 

[Ben Sisko3]

Mitchell had one last adventure in the past. Mitchell waited until his younger self, and Carter graduated from the Air Force Academy. Jack O'Neill was still a cadet because he's a rebelious teenager on the run from his abusive uncle challenging every authority figure he meets. But he still gets involved with this. So elderly Mitchell, and younger Lt. Mitchell, Lt. Carter, Cadet O'Neill, and a younger Daniel, join Col. Hammond on a mission through the gate first to Chu'lak to convince younger Teal'c to join them, then to P3X-514 where Ba'al is once again trying to mess with the timeline. This time around Ba'al has an ugly ass tattoo all over his face and has a pet space squid. The mission is a success, and for some reason Jack O'Neill is instantly made an officer and promoted to Colonel.

I'm laughing on the inside.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

At the end of the film, In the new altered timeline, future Mitchell opens his locker and there is a picture of his father and himself in the past. It is my thinking that the original mitchell stuck in the past pretended to be his fathers brother so the new timeline future mitchell probably thought he was his uncle but it was infact HIM.

Catch my drift?

 

[Broccoli]

Mitchell had one last adventure in the past. Mitchell waited until his younger self, and Carter graduated from the Air Force Academy. Jack O'Neill was still a cadet because he's a rebelious teenager on the run from his abusive uncle challenging every authority figure he meets. But he still gets involved with this. So elderly Mitchell, and younger Lt. Mitchell, Lt. Carter, Cadet O'Neill, and a younger Daniel, join Col. Hammond on a mission through the gate first to Chu'lak to convince younger Teal'c to join them, then to P3X-514 where Ba'al is once again trying to mess with the timeline. This time around Ba'al has an ugly ass tattoo all over his face and has a pet space squid. The mission is a success, and for some reason Jack O'Neill is instantly made an officer and promoted to Colonel.

Lemme guess, by your reckoning, they will all end up joining SG-01?

 

[The Wormhole]

Ooh, good one

 

[darkwing_duck1]

At the end of the film, In the new altered timeline, future Mitchell opens his locker and there is a picture of his father and himself in the past. It is my thinking that the original mitchell stuck in the past pretended to be his fathers brother so the new timeline future mitchell probably thought he was his uncle but it was infact HIM.

Catch my drift?

Bascially a pre-destination paradox...

 

[All Seeing Eye]

At the end of the film, In the new altered timeline, future Mitchell opens his locker and there is a picture of his father and himself in the past. It is my thinking that the original mitchell stuck in the past pretended to be his fathers brother so the new timeline future mitchell probably thought he was his uncle but it was infact HIM.

Catch my drift?

Bascially a pre-destination paradox...

No, if it was a pre-destination paradox Mitchell would have been his own Father which clearly is not the case. I said that the Mitchell stuck in the past likely pretended to be his fathers brother (therefore his uncle) because as we see in the locker photo past Mitchell is stood next to his father dressed the same and with a beard, it makes sense that if he's going to live his life he might aswell live it with his family and just pretend to be an uncle.

So basically the new timeline future Mitchells uncle is in fact HIM from the previous pre altered timeline.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

No, if it was a pre-destination paradox Mitchell would have been his own Father which clearly is not the case. I said that the Mitchell stuck in the past likely pretended to be his fathers brother (therefore his uncle) because as we see in the locker photo past Mitchell is stood next to his father dressed the same and with a beard, it makes sense that if he's going to live his life he might aswell live it with his family and just pretend to be an uncle.

So basically the new timeline future Mitchells uncle is in fact HIM from the previous pre altered timeline.

Predestination paradoxes do not always involve "becoming one's own father" (though that is the most famous example). If Y happens in the past because X happens in the future, it is a predestination paradox, because X will happen becase Y already did happen. Kirk and Spock's encounter with Gary 7 is another example of predestination paradox. History showed that what happened as a result was what already happened historically.

Mitchell always was his own "uncle".

 

[All Seeing Eye]

No, if it was a pre-destination paradox Mitchell would have been his own Father which clearly is not the case. I said that the Mitchell stuck in the past likely pretended to be his fathers brother (therefore his uncle) because as we see in the locker photo past Mitchell is stood next to his father dressed the same and with a beard, it makes sense that if he's going to live his life he might aswell live it with his family and just pretend to be an uncle.

So basically the new timeline future Mitchells uncle is in fact HIM from the previous pre altered timeline.

Predestination paradoxes do not always involve "becoming one's own father" (though that is the most famous example). If Y happens in the past because X happens in the future, it is a predestination paradox, because X will happen becase Y already did happen. Kirk and Spock's encounter with Gary 7 is another example of predestination paradox. History showed that what happened as a result was what already happened historically.

Mitchell always was his own "uncle".

I know that Predestination paradoxes do not always involve "becoming one's own father" but I assumed that's what you were meaning because there is no other way it is a pre-destination paradox and i'll explain why.
It is NOT a pre-destination paradox because in the previous timeline he was NOT his own uncle. If he had always been his own uncle then Baal would NEVER have succeeded the first time around, secondly because in the new timeline he became his own uncle the new timeline Mitchell does not need to travel back in time like the previous timeline Mitchell had to, therefore there is no 'time loop' and no 'pre-destination paradox'.

In order for it to be a pre-destination paradox Mitchell would have to ALWAYS travel back in time which he doesn't because he only had to do it the once to try and correct the timeline which he managed to do, except with the slight alteration that he got stuck in the past.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

It is NOT a pre-destination paradox because in the previous timeline he was NOT his own uncle. If he had always been his own uncle then Baal would NEVER have succeeded the first time around, secondly because in the new timeline he became his own uncle the new timeline Mitchell does not need to travel back in time like the previous timeline Mitchell had to, therefore there is no 'time loop' and no 'pre-destination paradox'.

In order for it to be a pre-destination paradox Mitchell would have to ALWAYS travel back in time which he doesn't because he only had to do it the once to try and correct the timeline which he managed to do, except with the slight alteration that he got stuck in the past.

How do we know he was NOT always his uncle? IIRC, we don't see the picture until the END of the film, so that can't prove it was a different individual.

And Mitchell Present would have no way of knowing that Mitchell Past was his "uncle" until the event acutally happened.

Essentially, the timeline had TWO Mitchells in it: Mitchell present #1 who went through the loop and became his uncle, and Mitchell #2 who didn't HAVE to do so.

In the Stargate universe, if one of the Mitchell's were from a different universe/timestream, they would have undergone the same painful disruption process that happened every OTHER time that happened.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

no no no no no no no.

It can't possibly have happened before, Mitchell succeeding in killing Baal immediately ends the need to travel back in time and prevents any loop from even occuring, if past Mitchell also had an uncle (which was him) then that version of him cannot have killed Baal and would have failed in his mission on the boat, but we know that can't possibly be the case because otherwise he'd be destined to fail again and again and again add infinitum because he'd be stuck in a fail loop.

Time travel only occurs that one time because it's impossible for it to have happened before or happen again because once baal is dead it's game over. The original Mitchell cannot have had an uncle (which was him).

 

[darkwing_duck1]

no no no no no no no.

It can't possibly have happened before, Mitchell succeeding in killing Baal immediately ends the need to travel back in time and prevents any loop from even occuring, if past Mitchell also had an uncle (which was him) then that version of him cannot have killed Baal and would have failed in his mission on the boat, but we know that can't possibly be the case because otherwise he'd be destined to fail again and again and again add infinitum because he'd be stuck in a fail loop.

Time travel only occurs that one time because it's impossible for it to have happened before or happen again because once baal is dead it's game over. The original Mitchell cannot have had an uncle (which was him).

That's why they call it a "paradox"!

Even though "Past Baal" is dead, "Future Baal" still exists, because he MUST exist in order to go back into the past and change history as was done.