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30 Yrs/5 days later: The SW Holiday Special

The Star Wars theme song has lyrics.

And people wonder why Harrison Ford won't do Star Wars again for any amount of money. He probably took a look at this and said "I want out."
 
I downloaded it last year, I consider it free domain because no one wants it.

It was awesome! My DVD Burner is broken otherwise I would make a copy for my grandma for Christmas. :)
 
I always loved the cartoon, but the rest I remember being a tad lame even as an 8 year old. (Though I did love the Wookie tree houses)
 
I was 15 when this travesty aired on TV. It was a big deal at the time. Starlog did a cover story on it, and the Canadian media made a big fuss about the animated section because it was produced by the Canadian animation firm Nelvana (who went on to produce the Droids and Ewoks series in the 1980s).

It may be worth noting that the show looks more peculiar today than it did in 1978. If you were a teenager or adult back then you were used to bad variety shows with cheesy musical numbers and bad skits. They were omnipresent on American TV in the 1970s. I mean, really: am I the only person who remembers the Bionic Watermelon from The Captain and Tennille's variety show? That's not to say the Star Wars Holiday Special doesn't suck, it does, but younger viewers who don't remember the variety shows of the 1970s (Sonny and Cher, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Pink Lady and Jeff, The Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, and many other lame shows, and The Carole Burnett Show, which was actually brilliantly funny at times) are lacking a certain cultural context for the show. Viewed in 1978, it was bad but its existence made a certain amount of sense. Viewed in 2008... not so much.
 
The Star Wars theme song has lyrics.

And people wonder why Harrison Ford won't do Star Wars again for any amount of money. He probably took a look at this and said "I want out."

This show is one of those things that's so bad it's good. I occassionally watch my DVR of it. Brings back happy memories of when I was eight.

And Harrison Ford won't do Star Wars because he's not a fan of either that or Sci-Fi. Who cares? At least the man has more class than Shatner and never condemned us for liking it.
 
And people wonder why Harrison Ford won't do Star Wars again for any amount of money. He probably took a look at this and said "I want out."
Looked at it? The poor guy was in it.

It may be worth noting that the show looks more peculiar today than it did in 1978. If you were a teenager or adult back then you were used to bad variety shows with cheesy musical numbers and bad skits. They were omnipresent on American TV in the 1970s. I mean, really: am I the only person who remembers the Bionic Watermelon from The Captain and Tennille's variety show? That's not to say the Star Wars Holiday Special doesn't suck, it does, but younger viewers who don't remember the variety shows of the 1970s (Sonny and Cher, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Pink Lady and Jeff, The Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, and many other lame shows, and The Carole Burnett Show, which was actually brilliantly funny at times) are lacking a certain cultural context for the show. Viewed in 1978, it was bad but its existence made a certain amount of sense. Viewed in 2008... not so much.
I was very familiar with the contemporary variety shows...but this was bad and difficult to watch even by that low standard. Let's see--IIRC Donnie and Marie opened their show with a monologue (dialogue?)...the SWHS opened with 20 minutes of Wookiee-speak.

This show is one of those things that's so bad it's good.
I think I won't be alone in saying, "No, it's just bad."
 
(I think that's the one in ANH that Owen and Luke were going to buy from the Jawas until R2D2 beamed a signal that killed it or something)
:lol: The sad thing is, that sounds exactly like something that might have come from an EU novel....

Huh? No, it's from the movie. R2 did something that caused R5's "motivator" to fail, so that Owen had to settle for taking R2 along with 3PO. Although Wookieepedia says that the shot of R2 committing the sabotage was cut from later versions of the film:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R5-D4
 
(I think that's the one in ANH that Owen and Luke were going to buy from the Jawas until R2D2 beamed a signal that killed it or something)
:lol: The sad thing is, that sounds exactly like something that might have come from an EU novel....

Huh? No, it's from the movie. R2 did something that caused R5's "motivator" to fail, so that Owen had to settle for taking R2 along with 3PO. Although Wookieepedia says that the shot of R2 committing the sabotage was cut from later versions of the film:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R5-D4

This is the first time that I've heard that claim, and it seems to be unsubstantiated.
 
This is the first time that I've heard that claim, and it seems to be unsubstantiated.

Which claim? That the shot of R2 doing something before R5's motivator blew out was there, or that it was later cut? Because I definitely remember seeing it.
 
This is the first time that I've heard that claim, and it seems to be unsubstantiated.

Which claim? That the shot of R2 doing something before R5's motivator blew out was there, or that it was later cut? Because I definitely remember seeing it.

That any footage of R2 doing anything to R5 was filmed.

Between scenes being cut, scenes that may or not have been filmed, the Star Wars Picture book, the radio drama, the behind the magic CD-ROM and several versions of the film it's no wonder nobody knows what was and wasn't in there originally.
 
This is the first time that I've heard that claim, and it seems to be unsubstantiated.

Which claim? That the shot of R2 doing something before R5's motivator blew out was there, or that it was later cut? Because I definitely remember seeing it.

That any footage of R2 doing anything to R5 was filmed.

Like I said, I saw it. It was ambiguous, but that was definitely the impression -- that R2 sent a signal of some sort that overloaded R5's motivator. That's been my interpretation of that scene for three decades now, since well before the movie got recut or retitled or modified to the extent it's been today.

Besides, doesn't it make sense? We know that R2 was on a mission. He had to find Obi-Wan, and being stuck on a Jawa sandcrawler wasn't where he needed to be. Throughout the whole first act of the movie, he was doing whatever he needed to do to deliver Leia's message, by hook or by crook. He stole the escape pod to get down to Tatooine, and once in the Lars' possession, he tricked Luke into removing his restraining bolt and then wandered off to find Obi-Wan. So I don't understand why you'd even be skeptical of the idea that he deliberately made sure that he was the astromech droid that got purchased instead of R5. Surely that's more consistent and less coincidental than R5 just conveniently happening to break down at exactly the time R2 needed him to break down.
 
Which claim? That the shot of R2 doing something before R5's motivator blew out was there, or that it was later cut? Because I definitely remember seeing it.

That any footage of R2 doing anything to R5 was filmed.

Like I said, I saw it. It was ambiguous, but that was definitely the impression -- that R2 sent a signal of some sort that overloaded R5's motivator. That's been my interpretation of that scene for three decades now, since well before the movie got recut or retitled or modified to the extent it's been today.

Besides, doesn't it make sense? We know that R2 was on a mission. He had to find Obi-Wan, and being stuck on a Jawa sandcrawler wasn't where he needed to be. Throughout the whole first act of the movie, he was doing whatever he needed to do to deliver Leia's message, by hook or by crook. He stole the escape pod to get down to Tatooine, and once in the Lars' possession, he tricked Luke into removing his restraining bolt and then wandered off to find Obi-Wan. So I don't understand why you'd even be skeptical of the idea that he deliberately made sure that he was the astromech droid that got purchased instead of R5. Surely that's more consistent and less coincidental than R5 just conveniently happening to break down at exactly the time R2 needed him to break down.

Yes, it's less coincidental, but I see no reason to suspect it wasn't coincidence. Why shouldn't it be? Quite a bit of the rest of the series was, and quite a bit of life is. At the least, it seems in keeping with R2 and Threepio's adventures having been inspired by The Three Villains of the Hidden Fortress.

The idea that R2 had done something had never occurred to me, for what it's worth, not in 22 years of watching the movie.
 
I was 15 when this travesty aired on TV. It was a big deal at the time. Starlog did a cover story on it, and the Canadian media made a big fuss about the animated section because it was produced by the Canadian animation firm Nelvana (who went on to produce the Droids and Ewoks series in the 1980s).

It may be worth noting that the show looks more peculiar today than it did in 1978. If you were a teenager or adult back then you were used to bad variety shows with cheesy musical numbers and bad skits. They were omnipresent on American TV in the 1970s. I mean, really: am I the only person who remembers the Bionic Watermelon from The Captain and Tennille's variety show? That's not to say the Star Wars Holiday Special doesn't suck, it does, but younger viewers who don't remember the variety shows of the 1970s (Sonny and Cher, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Pink Lady and Jeff, The Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, and many other lame shows, and The Carole Burnett Show, which was actually brilliantly funny at times) are lacking a certain cultural context for the show. Viewed in 1978, it was bad but its existence made a certain amount of sense. Viewed in 2008... not so much.

Good post mentioning the environment of the times. I too saw this special as a kid when it first hit. Ye gods. This special is a prime example of what Hollywood will do when a new thing comes along and they simply don't get it.

(For similar, awkward growing pains, look to the 1960s and some of the nonsense Hollywood churned out to appeal to the then new hippies and flower children.)

The SW Xmas Special was a quick way Hollywood tried to give the masses their newly discovered Star Wars fix. (They just did so in a terrible way.) Back then there were no special effects shows, no convenient DVDs with lots of interesting 'making of' features. Quite simply, Hollywood was new at it and they reverted to what they knew.
 
^^ :lol: anyone who wouuld think that was connected has really been drinking the kool-aid... :p
 
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