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Mythbusters 11/19: Viewer's Choice 3

Christopher

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Alkali metals in bathroom fixtures: I'm not surprised by the results. Alkali metals in water have a strong reaction, but it takes more than swift burning to get an explosion -- you need confinement. If it had happened inside, say, a water heater, then we might've gotten a genuine explosion. But something open like a bathtub or toilet? Of course not. An eruption, but not an explosion that destroys the fixture.

Bamboo torture: A little surprising that it worked so well, but I guess not really. I do wonder about some factors they didn't test, though: What if the victim had clothes on? What if the bamboo were pressing against bone rather than just going through flesh? And what if the torture victim were able to move around some -- would that kind of clean penetration be possible?

Exploding piano: This time, I was surprised by the results, but I was kicking myself afterward for not seeing the obvious. I was thinking it would fail and there wouldn't be an explosion, but my reasoning was that the strings would most likely snap one at a time rather than all at once, so the release of tension would not be sudden and catastrophic. But I should've realized that they were metal and would expand and relax when heated.

When they blew up the piano at the end, though, they should've rigged a robot that would play the first two bars of "Those Endearing Young Charms" and trigger the bomb when it hit that high note. Th-th-that's all, folks!

Brandy and winter rescue: They did a pretty good job here, but overlooked one thing, I think. They got the basics right. When we're cold, the body constricts blood vessels to the extremities to retain heat in the core; alcohol is a vasodilator (Adam said his blood was diluted when he meant his blood vessels were dilated), so it cancels that out. This gives the sensation of returned warmth, but actually causes the body to lose heat faster. So alcohol's actually dangerous to drink if you're trapped in the cold.

The one thing I think they overlooked, though, is the frostbite issue. The consequence of the body's response to cold is that it leaves the extremities vulnerable to frost damage; the body is willing to sacrifice the fingers, toes, ears, etc. to preserve the vital organs. If there's no rescue in sight and you need to maintain your core temperature as long as possible, then alcohol is the worst thing for you. But -- if you're on the verge of rescue, a small drink to restore circulation to the extremities could be useful to reduce the risk of frostbite, I'd think. Also, if the St. Bernard finds you and wants to lead you to shelter, then restoring circulation and feeling to your legs and feet is important to make sure you're able to walk and follow. So it's not something to let you survive longer in the cold so much as an initial, immediate step in helping you get out of the cold and recover from its effects. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the actual idea behind the practice.

If there ever was such a practice. I wish Jamie had elaborated on what he'd said about St. Bernards not actually delivering brandy. If that didn't happen, then where did the stereotypical image of them doing so come from?
 
Ahhh...Good ole RT. I love her doing nothing and letting the boys do all the work.

Either you didn't actually see the episode and are just pretending you did so you can spew another gratuitous sexist insult, or you're so blinded by your misogyny that you can't see what's right in front of your face. Don't you remember the part where Kari was busy reattaching the piano's legs while Tory and Grant were just goofing around on the keys? Or the part where she assembled and then released the "guillotine" rig for the alkali/toilet test while Tory and Grant were just spectating? If anything, she did more work here than they did. The only time she stepped back and let any "boys" do the work was when the "boys" from the bomb squad came in to handle the high explosives. And Tory and Grant had to do the same.

If you're going to spew sexist crap that's so easily disproved, you're just going to make yourself look stupid as well as hateful.
 
How about the part where Grant and Tory unloaded all the crap from the back of the truck while RT just sat on the back trying to show off her tits and ass trying to look fuckable? And she was...
 
Ahhh...Good ole RT. I love her doing nothing and letting the boys do all the work.

Ok. This has gone too far.

Do you intend to derail another thread with this BS?

On the myths.

Not much I can say. Pretty "meh" episode to me and wasn't surprised by any of the results. I figured the strings would EXPAND in the fire and that further the "soundboard" in it would prevent it from "exploding," I figured the bamboo would penetrate and wasn't surprised by the brandy myth(s) either. Though I agree with Christopher in that maybe the practice had more to do with recovering someone well on their way to frost bite in the wake of being rescued.

BTW-

Christopher? Do you watch "Prototype This"?

What do you make of this show? I think it's a much more watchable and enjoyable "version" of "Smash Lab" the "backyard waterslide" they made last week was pretty damn nifty and wouldn't be surprised to see versions of it popping up in waterparks and other amusement parks in the near future.
 
In case you're interested, the Cesium "myth" was pulled from Braniac, which is probably why they couldn't actually show the experiment on the show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m55kgyApYrY&feature=related
There's another youtube video showing wires going into the bath tub, with the implication that they used explosives to set it off.

Here's a funny little video by people at the University of Nottingham testing out the Cesium explosion themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCARhVfeX5U
 
The bamboo myth was very cool. Does anybody have more information about the specifics where this was supposedly done?
 
In case you're interested, the Cesium "myth" was pulled from Braniac, which is probably why they couldn't actually show the experiment on the show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m55kgyApYrY&feature=related
There's another youtube video showing wires going into the bath tub, with the implication that they used explosives to set it off.

Interesting. That's two Richard Hammond shows they've gone after. On one of the Myths Revisited episodes they redid some of the speed camera myths after Top Gear (another show Hammond presents which they just referred to as a British car show) showed a car going 300mph can beat a speed camera.

Oh, and enough of the Kari-Hate!!!!
 
Well, I saw that Brainiac episode, and I also immediately doubted whether it was real; it just looked strange, and the show sucks anyway.
And Top Gear - everyone knows that it is very scripted/staged and just made to look spontaneous.
 
Well, I saw that Brainiac episode, and I also immediately doubted whether it was real; it just looked strange, and the show sucks anyway.
And Top Gear - everyone knows that it is very scripted/staged and just made to look spontaneous.

In the case of Top Gear the Mythbusters did confirm that a car going that fast would beat the camera, IIRC it didn't even go off. The myth remained busted, however, because they pointed out that so few land vehicles are capable of going that fast that it wouldn't take long to figure out who the person speeding around the highways was.
 
Not much I can say. Pretty "meh" episode to me and wasn't surprised by any of the results.

I thought most of the myths were fairly interesting, but that a couple deserved more exploration along the lines I suggested in my first post. I mean, why didn't they try mixing alkali metals and water inside a sealed water heater instead of just a bathtub and toilet? Why did they just jump straight to tossing in explosives, instead of making a real effort to figure out how you could get a blast using alkali metals and water? Once, I think they would have. But they try to cram so many myths into these viewer specials that each one doesn't get the attention it deserves. Also, this show has become so much the "Let's blow stuff up show" that they're getting lazy about it and just rushing to bring on the C4 rather than doing more science.

Christopher? Do you watch "Prototype This"?

What do you make of this show? I think it's a much more watchable and enjoyable "version" of "Smash Lab" the "backyard waterslide" they made last week was pretty damn nifty and wouldn't be surprised to see versions of it popping up in waterparks and other amusement parks in the near future.

Haven't seen it, just the promos. Post-Mythbusters time is when I go online to post these review threads and talk about Pushing Daisies on another board. But just last night I was overhearing a promo for the show and thinking, "Is that just Smash Lab[/] with a name change and fewer smashes?"
 
Not much I can say. Pretty "meh" episode to me and wasn't surprised by any of the results.

I thought most of the myths were fairly interesting, but that a couple deserved more exploration along the lines I suggested in my first post. I mean, why didn't they try mixing alkali metals and water inside a sealed water heater instead of just a bathtub and toilet? Why did they just jump straight to tossing in explosives, instead of making a real effort to figure out how you could get a blast using alkali metals and water? Once, I think they would have. But they try to cram so many myths into these viewer specials that each one doesn't get the attention it deserves. Also, this show has become so much the "Let's blow stuff up show" that they're getting lazy about it and just rushing to bring on the C4 rather than doing more science.

Yeah. Well it would seem that the "Jr. Mythbusters" tend to miss stuff like this.


Christopher? Do you watch "Prototype This"?

What do you make of this show? I think it's a much more watchable and enjoyable "version" of "Smash Lab" the "backyard waterslide" they made last week was pretty damn nifty and wouldn't be surprised to see versions of it popping up in waterparks and other amusement parks in the near future.

Haven't seen it, just the promos. Post-Mythbusters time is when I go online to post these review threads and talk about Pushing Daisies on another board. But just last night I was overhearing a promo for the show and thinking, "Is that just Smash Lab[/] with a name change and fewer smashes?"


I'd reccomend watching it, it's interesting and the "cast" is better than Smash Lab's was.

Last week they wanted to build a "backyard waterslide." What they ended up building was something much larger than something you could fit in a back yard but still workable as a pretty nifty waterslide in places with space considerations.

The "rider" sits at the base of a ring which spins and the ring is on motors that moves it up, down and swings it side-to-side depending on the pre-programed ride which is pojected infront of the rider. Ended up looking pretty darn cool and I wouldn't be surprised to see it actually appear.

I'd recommend it, it's well worth viewing.
 
Ahhh...Good ole RT. I love her doing nothing and letting the boys do all the work.

Who is RT?:confused:

Sigh. We drug this up in last week's thread.

"RT" is an offensive, sexist, demeaning and degrading name that DFP has came up with to call Kari under the idea that her only purpose in the series is to be the cute, geeky, wank-factor.

"RT" refers to the color of her hair and a crude expression regarding her ample female chesticular outgrowths.

Please refer to last week's thread for the whole argument/discussion it should still be active on the second or third page for the forum. I think I, and I suspect Christopher as well, would prefer to not dredge that line of discussion up again here.
 
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