Book 2 or 3 of New Earth, which made me dump the whole series.
They're the only Star Trek books I've ever gotten rid of. (sold on ebay)
They're the only Star Trek books I've ever gotten rid of. (sold on ebay)
Books you never finished...
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Then they should have printed side 2 as side 1 and done a new side 2 to replace the existing side 1.
I agree with others. Side 2 is definitely worth giving a try. It is so much better than side 1, that you almost wonder if it was written by the same person.
If you do decide to go through them, could you please tell me:
- Who the heck are those characters on the front of the books? I can't remember them matching the description of anyone in there.
- How many factual (at least Trek factual), grammatical and other editing errors are there in the trilogy? I remember there being plenty.
Well, the woman on the covers is clearly meant to be a young Winn Adami. I don't remember the trilogy well enough to know who the others are, but I'd assume that the man on all three covers represents whoever the main Bajoran male character was in the Occupation-era flashbacks.
^ From what I recall, nothing shown on the covers had any bearing on the novels themselves; all flash, no substance. I don't think the woman is meant to be Winn, or if she was, it was at a total disconnect from what was actually occuring in the novels; the characters featured on the covers are merely the usual generic, 'politically correct' (read: stereotyped) triad in heroic poses.
Creditorly yours, the Rent Woman
Creditorly yours, the Rent Woman
I've finished every ST book I've read, even when it was painful, like Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath's travesty, The Prometheus Design, or any of Diane Carey's zenophobic, thinly disguised love letters to American Exceptionalism! -- RR
As contrasted to someone like Peter David, who has absolutely no fear of referring to Zeno of Elea in novels like Vendetta.
(Which is to say, it's spelt 'xenophobic'... not that I disagree in the least with the accusation.)Creditorly yours, the Rent Woman
I own plenty that I haven't gotten around to reading yet. But there has only been one that I stopped reading - Articles of the Federation.
It's gotten so many good reviews though, that I'll have to pick it back up and try again.
It's gotten so many good reviews though, that I'll have to pick it back up and try again.
^ That sound you hear is millions of voices crying out in terror, before suddenly being silenced.
Keith can get everywhere THAT quickly nowadays?!
I knew I'd get a reaction, admitting that.
^ There's not much you can say on this board that won't get a reaction...
That's fine. The thing about Articles is: it's a very atypical Star Trek novel. And atypical doesn't always work for everyone. Honestly, while I'm thrilled at the praise that the novel has received, I wasn't really expecting it. I figured it would be a book that many would have trouble with, or just plain not be interested in. Politics isn't everyone's bag, after all, and Articles, ultimately, is a book full of people sitting in rooms, talking. There's very little by way of "action," because that's what politics is.I own plenty that I haven't gotten around to reading yet. But there has only been one that I stopped reading - Articles of the Federation.
It's gotten so many good reviews though, that I'll have to pick it back up and try again.
All this is by way of saying, the fact that you couldn't finish it is understandable. If you feel the need to try it again because of the praise the book has received, that's cool, and I appreciate it.
Thanks for your honesty.
I think the politics is what slowed me down. I'm used to the heavy action-oriented stories. (Especially, reviewing so much scifi and fantasy.)
Guess I'm not that cerebral!
Guess I'm not that cerebral!
I must say, I disliked Articles when I started, and were it not for the comments I have seen here, I would not have continued with it.
It is quite overwhelming, and I found myself skipping over a lot of the information and hoping that the things which were most relevant would become obvious as I read on. When you're dealing with so many things which are unfamiliar (particularly as I hadn't finished A Time To... when I started), it's hard to know what's a throw-away reference and what's a key plot point at first.
Also, my feelings on The West Wing swung quite dramatically, with the dialogue walking a very fine line between clever and pretentious/irritating, and this novel had the same issue to some extent. I also put CJ Craig's voice to the press conferences...
There were a few things which bugged me (no, not just the baseball references!), but I did find it an enjoyable read overall, and I'm glad I stuck with it.
It is quite overwhelming, and I found myself skipping over a lot of the information and hoping that the things which were most relevant would become obvious as I read on. When you're dealing with so many things which are unfamiliar (particularly as I hadn't finished A Time To... when I started), it's hard to know what's a throw-away reference and what's a key plot point at first.
Also, my feelings on The West Wing swung quite dramatically, with the dialogue walking a very fine line between clever and pretentious/irritating, and this novel had the same issue to some extent. I also put CJ Craig's voice to the press conferences...
There were a few things which bugged me (no, not just the baseball references!), but I did find it an enjoyable read overall, and I'm glad I stuck with it.
As contrasted to someone like Peter David, who has absolutely no fear of referring to Zeno of Elea in novels like Vendetta.
Creditorly yours, the Rent Woman
Ooppss! I hate when that happens! And I'm often one of the snarky posters who corrects others on their spelling and grammar -- you know, a grammar Nazi! Hoisted on my own petard! Karma is a butch! I know Carey gets a lot of folks' blood boiling, but hey, it is what it is. -- RR
Side one will help a lot with whats going on in the DS9R... if he hadn't happened- things would be even weirder...
Side two is important for all thats going on- and you're a stone if it doesn't effect you emotionally... LOL
But hopefully- whats next? Soul Key? Hopefully it'll have enough explanation to help you jump from Warpath (2006) til 09 with SK.
Tho I must admit that my universe would be a happier place if some of FS hadn't happened, the novel itself was necessary, I think. What am I talking about, everyone knows what I think... haha!
I too, though I disagree with your assessments of Marshak and Culbreath's and Carey's work. (It's xenophobic, btw.)
Actually, the only novel I've never finished was The Plague Dogs by Ricard Adams, whose Watership Down writings count among my favorites. The phoneticized Scottish slang was simply unintelligible. With the book's unpleasant plot, I lost the will to carry forward.
Yep, Trent Roman rapped my knuckles about that upthread! I hate when I suffer from temporary spelling amnesia! Or maybe it's just Halfheimer's -- I only remember half what I'm supposed to!
Sorry we don't agree on the merits of the authors I slammed. Carey's work in particular, and her Mary Sue character, Piper, just annoyed the hell out of me. -- RRSimilar threads
