Pierces Brosnan’s Tenure as James Bond…

[Hermiod]

But if you didn't have it...you'd have people crying foul, because it is one of the most memorable/defining moments in the original novel, which the movie follows pretty closely.

Bond movies haven't always been faithful to the books. For a film released in 2006, the manner in which Bond was tortured says a lot about the filmmakers, to be honest.

Then they torture the audience instead by making them sit around looking at their watches for 20 minutes.

 

[Starkers]

I dunno, dropping the torture scene would be like dropping the card game or Vesper, you might as well not do the book. I'd rather they trimmed the Venetian gunbattle at the end to be honest but I guess they felt the film needed another action setpiece since it had been about 90 minutes since the last one.

 

[Hermiod]

I dunno, dropping the torture scene would be like dropping the card game or Vesper, you might as well not do the book.

Maybe not drop it entirely but at the very least it shouldn't have taken the form it took in the final film. Whoever came up with the idea of using that particular form of torture in the movie either wanted to make the male members of the audience feel distinctly uncomfortable or they're giving up a lot about how they feel towards men in general.

I'd rather they trimmed the Venetian gunbattle at the end to be honest but I guess they felt the film needed another action setpiece since it had been about 90 minutes since the last one.

Which fits with my comments about this film's very poor pacing.

 

[Timby]

I dunno, dropping the torture scene would be like dropping the card game or Vesper, you might as well not do the book.

Maybe not drop it entirely but at the very least it shouldn't have taken the form it took in the final film. Whoever came up with the idea of using that particular form of torture in the movie either wanted to make the male members of the audience feel distinctly uncomfortable or they're giving up a lot about how they feel towards men in general.

You would have enjoyed it had it been a woman smacking Bond's testicles around with a carpet-beater, instead of Le Chiffre.

 

[Hermiod]

You would have enjoyed it had it been a woman smacking Bond's testicles around with a carpet-beater, instead of Le Chiffre.

Really, really not.

 

[doubleohfive]

Then how would you have preferred the torture scene?

 

[Hermiod]

Then how would you have preferred the torture scene?

I don't really care, but torturing one of cinema's most masculine characters in a the most anti-masculine way is a bit obvious, don't you think ?

Especially given the change in his behaviour in the rest of the movie.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I remember asking, during a press gig from MGM while TND was shooting, "Is Eric Serra coming back" (and hopiing not) and the PR guy said, and I quote "No, he's gone off to ruin The Fifth Element this year."

Oh my, that's pretty frank, isn't it?

I thought The Fifth Element's music was really cool. If the soundtrack was still in print, I'd snap it up.

 

[Timby]

I remember asking, during a press gig from MGM while TND was shooting, "Is Eric Serra coming back" (and hopiing not) and the PR guy said, and I quote "No, he's gone off to ruin The Fifth Element this year."

Oh my, that's pretty frank, isn't it?

I thought The Fifth Element's music was really cool. If the soundtrack was still in print, I'd snap it up.

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[Broccoli]

Then how would you have preferred the torture scene?

I don't really care, but torturing one of cinema's most masculine characters in a the most anti-masculine way is a bit obvious, don't you think ?

Especially given the change in his behaviour in the rest of the movie.

Dude, that is directly from the novel, a novel that the filmmakers set out adapt faithfully. I, for one, was glad they didn't puss out and cut the carpet beater.

 

[doubleohfive]

Hermiod, you say you don't care yet you are making a big stink about all of this. Your behavior confuses me, and leads me to suspect, no matter how much I wish otherwise, that you're complaining for complaining's sake.

 

[Lonemagpie]

I remember asking, during a press gig from MGM while TND was shooting, "Is Eric Serra coming back" (and hopiing not) and the PR guy said, and I quote "No, he's gone off to ruin The Fifth Element this year."

Oh my, that's pretty frank, isn't it?

I thought The Fifth Element's music was really cool. If the soundtrack was still in print, I'd snap it up.

TBH, I don't even remember what it was like - though bear in mind that this was a Luc Besson movie where Serra could work with him all through production, and the MGM PR guy was commenting while Fifth Element was still shooting, not after hearing its score. It just pretty much shows that they felt he screwed up Goldeneye

 

[Cicero]

Brosnan's films are like ST films to me: the even ones tend to be better. I love TND and DAD, but GE and TWINE are passable at best.

I feel the same way. The even-numbered Brosnan movies are the only installments in the series I consistently enjoy. Earlier outings (and Goldeneye and Casino Royal) are very much dated by the attitudes and peculiarities of their times. Some have great scenes, some (really just From Russia With Love) are mostly great, but none can I watch again and again like Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day. (I'll watch Goldeneye, too, but have to skip parts.)

I'm hopeful that the Bond after the current iteration is a return to what I'd consider form. (I'll say this for Casinio Royal: Jeffrey Wright is the best Felix Leitner at least since Jack Lord.)

I remember asking, during a press gig from MGM while TND was shooting, "Is Eric Serra coming back" (and hopiing not) and the PR guy said, and I quote "No, he's gone off to ruin The Fifth Element this year."

Oh my, that's pretty frank, isn't it?

I thought The Fifth Element's music was really cool. If the soundtrack was still in print, I'd snap it up.

I loved almost everything about the Fifth Element, including, and especially, the score.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

At times I feel like one of the few people in the world to enjoy The World Is Not Enough. It's pretty much everything I'd want out of a James Bond film. The only misstep, in my opinion, was Denise Richards, who was woefully miscast. The other performances -- Brosnan, Carlyle, Marceau -- were all solid, and the film had a strong plot.

 

[ClayinCA]

I liked it. Didn't think it was perfect, but I really enjoyed it for what it was - a Bond-style romp with serious undertones here and there. I liked the slight darkening of Bond's character, and I liked the way they involved M in the plot. And there was a portrait of Bernard Lee's M in it! Who couldn't love that??

Denise Richards was lame, sure, but she was hot. And she was less lame, and more hot, than Tanya Roberts in A View to a Kill, so...

 

[Garth Rockett]

At times I feel like one of the few people in the world to enjoy The World Is Not Enough.

Even though it's apparently not a popular opinion, I enjoy TWINE as well. In fact, it's in my top five Bond films of all time; possibly my top three. Easily Brosnan's best outing, IMO. Interesting plot, good cast (aside from Richards)... I mean, you've got to love Robbie Coltrane in this movie. Great score too.

 

[MyCylon]

Re: Pierces Brosnan’s Tenure as James Bond…

I remember asking, during a press gig from MGM while TND was shooting, "Is Eric Serra coming back" (and hopiing not) and the PR guy said, and I quote "No, he's gone off to ruin The Fifth Element this year."

Oh my, that's pretty frank, isn't it?

I thought The Fifth Element's music was really cool. If the soundtrack was still in print, I'd snap it up.

Although I'd never buy it on CD I do enjoy the Fifth Element film music. I think the film is a wonderful, crazy mix of styles that just seems to crazily move from high polish to trash all the time without even blinking. Very, very entertaining. And I think the music is a perfect fit for that film.

 

[TedShatner10]

GoldenEye's cheesy soundtrack was much more suited to the infamous N64 game that outgrew it's parent SG-1 style.

 

[Good Will Riker]

Brosnan's films are like ST films to me: the even ones tend to be better. I love TND and DAD, but GE and TWINE are passable at best.

I feel the same way. The even-numbered Brosnan movies are the only installments in the series I consistently enjoy. Earlier outings (and Goldeneye and Casino Royal) are very much dated by the attitudes and peculiarities of their times. Some have great scenes, some (really just From Russia With Love) are mostly great, but none can I watch again and again like Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day. (I'll watch Goldeneye, too, but have to skip parts.)

I'm hopeful that the Bond after the current iteration is a return to what I'd consider form. (I'll say this for Casinio Royal: Jeffrey Wright is the best Felix Leitner at least since Jack Lord.)

Oh my, that's pretty frank, isn't it?

I thought The Fifth Element's music was really cool. If the soundtrack was still in print, I'd snap it up.

I loved almost everything about the Fifth Element, including, and especially, the score.

I am the opposite. I actually prefer Goldeneye (for the excellent direction and performances) and The World is Not Enough (the only Brosnan film with "the feel" of the classic Bond era) to Tomorrow Never Dies (product placement and obvious action set pieces) and Die Another Day (script was written around a laundry list of past Bond homages).

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

I think the only bad one Brosnan ever did was DAD. The rest of his movies were either great (GE) or good (TND, and TWINE)