Will Trek XI repel old fans?

[unimatrix7]

Oh, and what else is playing that weekend?

Next Day Air and My Life In Ruins

The week before, it's Wolverine, the following week is Angels & Demons, and the week after that is Terminator Salvation.

You're right. Trek XI would have a much better chance of success against these flicks if Abrams had just listened to you and resurrected the TOS sets from the trash and bought a replica 1701 model off eBay.

 

[BillJ]

I don't know yet if it will repel this longtime fan (been around since '75).

There still isn't enough on the film to make an educated guess. Doubt there will be until 5-9-09.

Except -- I hate the uniforms.

 

[ST-One]

Well, to answer the original question, I'm not terribly excited about this film anymore. I posted before about the secrecy surrounding its making being a turnoff, my interest waning considerably with the dearth of marketing, and haven't seen anything just yet to change my feelings I will see the film on DVD for free at some point.

I like the slightly updated uniforms (though wish the more accurate ribnecks had also made it rather than just the black V-necks) and even the neo-Nazi Romulans, but a lot of everything else -- from the 80s-looking starship Kelvin to the albino bridge set -- feels tonally wrong. I liked the understated, intelligent quality of the early Trek episodes, but this film gives me the impression it's going to be about "awesome" explosions and hyper-kinetic editing, with lots of childish bickering among the crew until they predictably come to respect each other.

So it will be just like TOS in your mind then?

 

[joncreed]

Hell no, Trek XI is not gonna repel me...after BermanBraga's fuck you "These Are The Voyages" I'm elated for the re-boot! Yes, I'm calling Trek XI for what it is- a ReBoot in all but name! I'm a fan of TOS and for the most part liked TNG and ENTERPRISE mid-Season 3 and most of Season 4 but BermanBraga Trekverse had run its course, same old, same old so starting over is fine with me!

C'mon guys, James Bond is the longest running continuous franchise and the reboot "Casino Royale" saved the series and let's not forgot a little film by Chris Nolan titled "Batman Begins!" Star Trek is not a sacred cow so I'm all for the reboot and judging from the pics, I thinks its going to be great!

 

[Basil]

Well, to answer the original question, I'm not terribly excited about this film anymore. I posted before about the secrecy surrounding its making being a turnoff, my interest waning considerably with the dearth of marketing, and haven't seen anything just yet to change my feelings I will see the film on DVD for free at some point.

I like the slightly updated uniforms (though wish the more accurate ribnecks had also made it rather than just the black V-necks) and even the neo-Nazi Romulans, but a lot of everything else -- from the 80s-looking starship Kelvin to the albino bridge set -- feels tonally wrong. I liked the understated, intelligent quality of the early Trek episodes, but this film gives me the impression it's going to be about "awesome" explosions and hyper-kinetic editing, with lots of childish bickering among the crew until they predictably come to respect each other.

So it will be just like TOS in your mind then?

No, more like Starship Troopers, with the dizzy editing style from The Bourne Identity that makes it look like Matt Damon can fight, run, jump, act, etc.

 

[Captain Robert April]

In other words, all sizzle, no steak.

 

[ST-One]

Well, to answer the original question, I'm not terribly excited about this film anymore. I posted before about the secrecy surrounding its making being a turnoff, my interest waning considerably with the dearth of marketing, and haven't seen anything just yet to change my feelings I will see the film on DVD for free at some point.

I like the slightly updated uniforms (though wish the more accurate ribnecks had also made it rather than just the black V-necks) and even the neo-Nazi Romulans, but a lot of everything else -- from the 80s-looking starship Kelvin to the albino bridge set -- feels tonally wrong. I liked the understated, intelligent quality of the early Trek episodes, but this film gives me the impression it's going to be about "awesome" explosions and hyper-kinetic editing, with lots of childish bickering among the crew until they predictably come to respect each other.

So it will be just like TOS in your mind then?

No, more like Starship Troopers, with the dizzy editing style from The Bourne Identity that makes it look like Matt Damon can fight, run, jump, act, etc.

So, you are also one of the select few who have already seen the movie?

 

[ST-One]

In other words, all sizzle, no steak.

You are posting in the wrong forum again.

 

[Basil]

So it will be just like TOS in your mind then?

No, more like Starship Troopers, with the dizzy editing style from The Bourne Identity that makes it look like Matt Damon can fight, run, jump, act, etc.

So, you are also one of the select few who have already seen the movie?

I was answering your question that "it will be . . . like TOS in my mind." You do recall that's what you asked, don't you? If not, you might seek medical treatment -- they have pills now to help with such things.

 

[ST-One]

No, more like Starship Troopers, with the dizzy editing style from The Bourne Identity that makes it look like Matt Damon can fight, run, jump, act, etc.

So, you are also one of the select few who have already seen the movie?

I was answering your question that "it will be . . . like TOS in my mind." You do recall that's what you asked, don't you? If not, you might seek medical treatment -- they have pills now to help with such things.

And I was referring to you knowledge about the editing style of the movie.

 

[Captain Robert April]

In other words, all sizzle, no steak.

You are posting in the wrong forum again.

Who died and made you a moderator?

 

[ST-One]

In other words, all sizzle, no steak.

You are posting in the wrong forum again.

Who died and made you a moderator?

T'Bonz.

 

[Basil]

So, you are also one of the select few who have already seen the movie?

I was answering your question that "it will be . . . like TOS in my mind." You do recall that's what you asked, don't you? If not, you might seek medical treatment -- they have pills now to help with such things.

And I was referring to you knowledge about the editing style of the movie.

I didn't claim knowledge but a prediction -- you see, the verb "will be" that you used in your question refers to future, not present events. Therefore, a prediction is warranted in the response. Perhaps English is not your primary language and that explains the lapse rather than mental defect. If so, I understand, but then you might want to brush up on English grammar. I can recommend some easy-to-read workbooks should you wish.

 

[Captain Robert April]

You are posting in the wrong forum again.

Who died and made you a moderator?

T'Bonz.

Yeah. Right.

If anyone's posting on the wrong forum, I think that avatar of yours says it all, Sparky.

 

[Basil]

I'm going to stop posting on this subject, not because I don't have things to say but because I don't want this girl/guy to think she/he is being ganged up on.

 

[Red Ranger]

People:

Regarding the hoo-hah over whether the ship is built in space or on the ground -- is this really important? I can see pluses and minuses to building the ship in either environment.

My own guess is the major work is done on the ground, and then the components are assembled in space. As for things like solar radiation affecting workers, it is the 23rd century. Surely by then, manufacturing of space suits is far enough along to protect against the dangers of solar radiation!

Besides, we've seen at least one instance where it wasn't a concern -- rather, the wearer's oxygen supply was the important issue. I'm referring to Captain Kirk in The Tholian Web. He was out in open space while in his suit, so we can assume he was exposed to all kinds of radiation. No mention whatsover of this hazard.

Frankly, I have no problem with showing part of the construction on a planet surface. Makes sense to me.

Red Ranger

 

[ST-One]

Who died and made you a moderator?

T'Bonz.

Yeah. Right.

If anyone's posting on the wrong forum, I think that avatar of yours says it all, Sparky.

My avatar of Jeff Quinn's Spock?

 

[ST-One]

I didn't claim knowledge but a prediction -- *snipped - because of the utter condescension the poster showed*

So, you know nothing.

I'm going to stop posting on this subject, not because I don't have things to say but because I don't want this girl/guy to think she/he is being ganged up on.

I post in TNZ. I can deal with you.

 

[Psion]

Forget it, guys.

Star Trek fandom has degenerated into the aforementioned wet-crotched cheerleaders ready to herald the arrival of whatever polished turd Paramount sees fit to hurl our way, so long as it has a Star Trek label attached.

They wanted a reboot, they got it.

Now let's see if they can keep that going for forty years.

I'm not the one with the problem. You seem to be upset because there are people being optimistic about this movie. People who want a good story, and want to see what J.J. Abrams has accomplished. We're looking to the future with hope and optimism.

So your problem is that we've degenerated into a group of people willing to give a man a chance to see what he can do with our beloved show, and maybe, just maybe, recapture that magic that was lost over time. You're against new people finding something refreshing about this series that has existed for 40 years. A series that would love to tell more stories, but can't because the people who moved the characters have died or are too old to continue. A perfect opportunity to infuse some new life into this show. A chance to show people that Star Trek is powerful science fiction, with a dash of hope and humanity thrown in for good measure. You're against anything this man has to do to make it possible.

You're griping over set design.
You're griping over the bridge.
You're dead set against the movie because you don't like the design.

That is what you're telling me.
Yet, you can't just not see the movie. You have to rage against the system, you have to make your voice heard so that you can express your displeasure over something that does not negatively affect you beyond you not getting your way.

You're behaving like a petulant child. A spoiled rotten child who is used to getting what he wants, and if he can't have it NO ONE can!

Go ahead and continue raging over the details. Get into an apoplectic fit over canon and bridge design. Throw a tantrum about nacelles and command shirts, because it's fruitless. The movie's made and now we wait. You can pass the time by being a pessimistic crotchety grouch who likes to try and make people feel miserable for liking something you don't. I'd prefer to do something more important, like consider the story and the ideals of Star Trek this movie presents.

Some children gaze at the stars and wonder.
Some children wish to reach those stars.
And then some children just want the stars to come to them, and hold their breath and kick their feet when they won't.

I'd like to see far more of the former, but here I'm seeing some of the latter. Shame on you for behaving like such a child. You should know better. Star Trek has apparently taught you nothing.

J.

Nothing to add, really, except that I'll gladly switch sides if you tell me where you got your avatar.

I wish someone would answer this question.

 

[M'Sharak]

I'm going to stop posting on this subject, not because I don't have things to say but because I don't want this girl/guy to think she/he is being ganged up on.

It would have been better if you had quit before you got around to making digs like this:

You do recall that's what you asked, don't you? If not, you might seek medical treatment -- they have pills now to help with such things.

and this:

Perhaps English is not your primary language and that explains the lapse rather than mental defect. If so, I understand, but then you might want to brush up on English grammar. I can recommend some easy-to-read workbooks should you wish.

Don't do that again.

Who died and made you a moderator?

T'Bonz.

Yeah. Right.

If anyone's posting on the wrong forum, I think that avatar of yours says it all, Sparky.

No, I'm the moderator, and April, I've seen very little to suggest that you've come over here for any reason than to stir up trouble. If you want to participate in the discussions about the movie, that's fine and dandy, but I'd suggest you get around to it quickly. I'd suggest further that you do something about the aroma which has been following you; it's upsetting some of the regulars.

ST-One, dropping it now would be a good idea.