"We have to bring more Star Wars into Star Trek."

[Balthier the Great]

From this interview with Orci and Kurzman:

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"Original Star Wars," Orci emphasizes.

I think this is great news. God knows Trek could use some emphasis on energy and entertainment values.

No JAR JAR in my Star Trek plz.

 

[Captain X]

I'm sure there are already fans out there worried that this movie is going to be a Star Wars rip-off that uses Star Trek names to cash in on the recognition. Why compound that?

Much of what they've said leads me to think that Abrams and the writers are overestimating the Trek fanbase.

And what part of oversimplifying their description of the movie suggests that? Christ, it sound like a modern movie pitch - "it's like ______, but _____." Seriously, do they have to say "it's like Star Wars, but Star Trek"? Not only would it sound better to avoid making that kind of a comparison by simply stating what they meant, but it would probably prevent more feathers from being ruffled. Not to mention the eye-roll-iness of comparisons between Star Wars and Star Trek. An ad for NEM actually had "it's as good as Star Wars" in it and I rolled my eyes even more than I did here.

Beyond that, does anyone actually think when someone says mentions making Star Trek more like Star Wars that they think of anything else more than action and big space battles?

 

[roguephoenix]

why do we have to "bring more into star trek"? if i want to see that i'd watch that . it should say "we have to bring more bsg into star trek." now that would be good.

 

[ancient]

They are bringing nuBSG into Trek.

Just look at all the dirt! On the ground!

These guys are Bastards for making a movie. BASTARDS!!!!!

Don't they know that Trek isn't about excitement, it's about having conversations in corridors...in space!

 

[Eric Cheung]

why do we have to "bring more into star trek"? if i want to see that i'd watch that . it should say "we have to bring more bsg into star trek." now that would be good.

Because if they didn't bring something more into it the movie would be a Mad Libs exercise. We go to see the unexpected as much as the familiar

They are bringing nuBSG into Trek.

Just look at all the dirt! On the ground!

These guys are Bastards for making a movie. BASTARDS!!!!!

Don't they know that Trek isn't about excitement, it's about having conversations in corridors...in space!

Heh, Star Trek is The West Wing in space!

 

[Brutal Strudel]

I still don't see the reasoning behind needing more "Star Wars into Star Trek." They are two completely different universes, and need to be kept apart, and stay that way.

What Trek needs (other than to fucking end--Christ, must new episodes be in production until the sun becomes a red giant, until the heat death of the universe itself? Stories end. Let's find some new ones.) is more of the spirit of TOS. Star Wars--love it though I do--is simple-minded fantasy in SF drag and has no place in Trek.

(Trek is only a little more sophisticated but that little counts for a lot.)

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'm sure there are already fans out there worried that this movie is going to be a Star Wars rip-off that uses Star Trek names to cash in on the recognition. Why compound that?

Much of what they've said leads me to think that Abrams and the writers are overestimating the Trek fanbase.

And what part of oversimplifying their description of the movie suggests that?

The very notion that Trek fans would find the mention of or comparison with "Star Wars" to be in any way offensive or controversial is really a hard thing for anyone but a Trekkie to even comprehend. I think that the producers may not be as fully aware as they think they are to just how defensive and easily offended a lot of fans are.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

The very notion that Trek fans would find the mention of or comparison with "Star Wars" to be in any way offensive or controversial is really a hard thing for anyone but a Trekkie to even comprehend. I think that the producers may not be as fully aware as they think they are to just how defensive and easily offended a lot of fans are.

I'm offended that you would be so presumptous to assume that Trek fans are easily offended.

 

[Sector 7]

Seven. They used to have meetings in an old barn up the street.

Oh, I thought that was the "He-Men Woman Haters Club."

That's on Saturdays.

Five now... two got into a fight over which one hated everything and everyone the most... and killed each other.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

(Trek is only a little more sophisticated but that little counts for a lot.)

From Phil Kaufman opining that Star Trek needs more Olaf Stapledon to... this. My, how Hollywood has degenerated in a scant three decades (and I was never even a fan of Kaufman's Planet of the Titans project).

TGT

 

[Brutal Strudel]

(Trek is only a little more sophisticated but that little counts for a lot.)

From Phil Kaufman opining that Star Trek needs more Olaf Stapledon to... this. My, how Hollywood has degenerated in a scant three decades (and I was never even a fan of Kaufman's Planet of the Titans project).

TGT

Tmesis is called for here. Trans-fuckin'-formers, baby. Fe-fucking-licity, brother.

Still, Star Wars is back with a pale copy of a copy of a copy in this new Clone Wars show--it just doesn't know when to quit. Looks like there's plenty of Star Trek in Star Wars so why not return the favor?

 

[RoJoHen]

Star Wars and Star Trek have their own styles. Star Trek's style has become pretty lame in recent years. All they're saying is that they're going to invigorate the new Trek movie with some of that old fashioned Star Wars fun.

It's an analogy. One that they probably thought scifi fans would like. I have a feeling that Abrams and Co aren't aware that a good portion of Trek fans are retarded, whiny bitches.

 

[Skywalker]

Kirk: "What a piece of junk!"
Pike: "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

 

[trevanian]

The ST reunion sequel was humming along, variously as a low budget feature film, a telemovie, a series of telemovies, a TV show called "Star Trek: Phase II"... and suddenly got the greenlight to be a big budget feature film after "Star Wars" hit.

Not to undermine the rest of your post, but trek was being developed as a middle budget feature film, the Kaufmann-directed PLANET OF THE TITANS with fx by Belson and Meddings and Ken Adam production design, BEFORE that Lucas movie came out. It was subsequently CANCELLED by Paramount, presumably because they felt SW scooped them, which then trotted out the PHASE 2 notion several weeks later.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Not to undermine the rest of your post, but trek was being developed as a middle budget feature film.

For "low" read "medium" - I wasn't attempting an accurate timeline there. (And you have your quoting messed up.)

 

[T'Bonz]

Why does it have to be "either/or" with Trek fans? Original (not the lame new crap) Star Wars, especially the first two films, was damned awesome.

Star Trek can be excellent. But much of TNG was, uh, *snore!* Perfection in humanity makes for dull storytelling.

I'm not saying that we need kewl battles and 'sploshions, but imperfect and interesting characters help make for a good story. That is what happened with DS9 and why it was almost as good as original Star Trek.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

I'd say that the first two Star Wars films didn't have anything Trek could use that TOS didn't already have in abundance, esp. in its first 13 episodes. (Except, of course, for better fx. But I don't really care all that much about them past a certain point...)

 

[Cyke101]

Kirk: "What a piece of junk!"
Pike: "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

Whoa, I didn't know Pike owned Voyager!

 

[3D Master]

Why does it have to be "either/or" with Trek fans? Original (not the lame new crap) Star Wars, especially the first two films, was damned awesome.

Uh, no, actually, it wasn't.

 

[FalTorPan]

Star Trek needs more Howard the Duck.