There will be plenty of Shatner. There will be breaks during the movie with Priceline commercials, to give it the feel of a TV show and get Shatner on screen. With a little luck, in one he and Chris Pine will be wearing purple sombreros.
The more I read about this film...
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There will be plenty of Shatner. There will be breaks during the movie with Priceline commercials, to give it the feel of a TV show and get Shatner on screen. With a little luck, in one he and Chris Pine will be wearing purple sombreros.
Shatner will do a Priceline ad to be shown before the movie. In this one, the Negotiator and No-Fee try to negotiate a part in J.J. Abrams' "Star Trek" movie. It doesn't go well.
Um, if I'm not mistaken, at the height of TOS's popularity, Nimoy's Spock was more popular than Shatner's Kirk. This caused a lot of grief and consternation for the Shat, and he had to up his line and scene stealing.
Bill, is that you as the OP?
Um, if I'm not mistaken, at the height of TOS's popularity, Nimoy's Spock was more popular than Shatner's Kirk. This caused a lot of grief and consternation for the Shat, and he had to up his line and scene stealing.
Bill, is that you as the OP?
You're not mistaken. If it hadn't been for Spock, "Star Trek" would likely not have attracted the kind of attention it did on NBC. Shatner probably owes Nimoy a great deal more than vice-versa - or is that "Kirk probably owes Spock...?"
The only thing that might keep me from seeing this movie is IF Shatner IS in it.
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If there isn't a decon scene I'm boycotting this film on opening day.
If I don't see a nude Nimoy rubbing decon gel on a nude Shatner's body, I will boycott this movie.
Photoshop, anyone?
I wasn't aware any scenes from the film were released yet, let alone ones that included lines of dialog being spoken.
If you meant things the actors have been quoted as saying in articles and such, I think you'd find the same kind of language being used on occasion by members of the original cast as well.
To be perfectly honest, since the movie was a sequel to the SPACE SEED episode, it wasn't exactly made without refering to earlier Trek projects/stories.
As for Kirk being at a desk job at the start of WoK, he'd never been officially demoted to Captain during the first film. It was made plain it was only a temporary thing. Even at the end Kirk more or less "stole" the Enterprise by having them take off into space once the V'Ger incident was wrapped up. He was supposed to return the ship to Earth and return to San Francisco. (Remember him telling Decker that Will's grade reduction to "Commander" was only temporary?)
Seeing Kirk back at his desk job at the start of WoK wasn't out of sync with the first film at all. It made perfect sense.
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Aw jeez, you rear admirals...
If TMP had been a real success, do you really think Admiral Kirk and crew would have returned to Earth!? Seems to me that the next movie (pajama uniforms and all) would have picked up where TMP left off, an adventure in space. Why shouldn't he be able to command a ship as Admiral? Heck, he's just saved Earth! (With the loss of only Matt Decker's stuffy son and that weird Deltan chick - and besides, they're still alive, sort of.)
With respect to TWOK being, of course, a sequel to "Space Seed": I am speaking of a reboot of the movie series, which in fact was necessary if there was to be a movie series at all. This has nothing to do with whether the plot of the reboot movie was or wasn't a sequel to a TOS episode.
I am well aware that TWOK uses a few effects shots created for TMP. But it explicitly avoids referring to any events in TMP, and justififably so. As DeForest Kelley was reported to have said, "Now this is a Star Trek movie."
(Vonda McIntyre's TWOK novelization did include occasional mentions of Deltans, etc.; in her view at least, TWOK was indeed a sequel to TMP and not a reboot of the movie series. Of course, she also has Spock die irreversibly - coffin becomes meteor and burns up - although this may have changed in later editions.)
(Another small point: As Leonard Maltin's movie guide reminds us, TWOK was "originally released without the II in its title." If II had always been the idea, it would have been in the original release prints and the pre-release advertising - which it wasn't.)
If TMP had been a real success, do you really think Admiral Kirk and crew would have returned to Earth!? Seems to me that the next movie (pajama uniforms and all) would have picked up where TMP left off, an adventure in space. Why shouldn't he be able to command a ship as Admiral? Heck, he's just saved Earth! (With the loss of only Matt Decker's stuffy son and that weird Deltan chick - and besides, they're still alive, sort of.)
With respect to TWOK being, of course, a sequel to "Space Seed": I am speaking of a reboot of the movie series, which in fact was necessary if there was to be a movie series at all. This has nothing to do with whether the plot of the reboot movie was or wasn't a sequel to a TOS episode.
I am well aware that TWOK uses a few effects shots created for TMP. But it explicitly avoids referring to any events in TMP, and justififably so. As DeForest Kelley was reported to have said, "Now this is a Star Trek movie."
(Vonda McIntyre's TWOK novelization did include occasional mentions of Deltans, etc.; in her view at least, TWOK was indeed a sequel to TMP and not a reboot of the movie series. Of course, she also has Spock die irreversibly - coffin becomes meteor and burns up - although this may have changed in later editions.)
(Another small point: As Leonard Maltin's movie guide reminds us, TWOK was "originally released without the II in its title." If II had always been the idea, it would have been in the original release prints and the pre-release advertising - which it wasn't.)
^^^TMP was a real success, albeit not of Star Wars proportions. It made more box office, when adjusted for inflation, than the other films. It was a troubled production with a lot of infighting and not-great reviews, which is what led to the throwing out the bay with the bath water revamp that was TWOK.
Don't push me, Cogley. I have my limits.
Checking "lifetime gross" at Box Office Mojo shows that TMP grossed about $82 million versus about $79 million for TWOK, which cost a great deal less to make (as I recall, $10 million versus $42 million). Even taking into account that some portion of the expense of TMP went into the sets, the Enterprise model, and a few effects shots in TWOK, the latter was certainly a lot more profitable. (Also, keep in mind that some work done for TMP had to be redone for TWOK, in particular all of the bridge monitors and instruments that consisted of individual film projectors in TMP, leading to lighting problems for all scenes set on the bridge; a few years later the expense of creating electronic replacements was necessary and worthwhile.)
What if you just had them rub avocado on their naked bodies? You could cover up the naughty bits with little sombreros.
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