He's Out...He's In...He's Out...???

[drasche]

It made over $300,000,000.00 this summer. I think it is safe to say... everyone saw it. We can only pray Star Trek Zero does as well...
Seriously, I still think he's not going to be in it. If he were in it, hopefully in no way, shape nor form as Kirk. It is just not logical.

I hate to say it but I was so hungry at the end of the movie I didn't wait for the credits to scroll

 

[Sector 7]

...to the scene in Ironman that came after the credits (I don't want to spoil Ironman for anyone who has yet to see it).

It made over $300,000,000.00 this summer. I think it is safe to say... everyone saw it.

Well, I once got yelled at on this forum for posting

Spoiler: spoiler

"Rosebud was a sled"

so I'm not taking any more chances.

Dude, some people are just mental! My guess is the complainers never saw a classic movie nor read books in school...
On a similar topic, did you ever notice that throughout history... those who burn books rarely read them?

 

[pookha]

i dont expect to see shatner in the movie but wouldnt be suprised if he is in it.

 

[Krieg1981]

Out! They shouldn't try to shoehorn Shatner into this film.....as much as I'd like to see it. I think it would be forced, and I'm really wanting this movie to be as good as it possibly can be!

 

[Longinus]

His screen time could be all of 5 seconds or so, perhaps Spock naswering a knock at his door and finding Shatner's Kirk standing behind it, then...

That would actually be pretty cool. I still think that he'll be Jim's grandpa or something.

 

[Hawku]

Shatner will be in this movie, only the Directors, Producers and Casting person won't know it because he'll be disguised as an extra. You'll see Shatner in the background wearing a red shirt.

 

[Tyberius]

Only the echo Kirk left the Nexus. The real Kirk was still there!

 

[Eric Cheung]

There's a blog interview on AMCtv.com going around right now addressing this. Apparently the cameo rumor was true, which is why Shatner said "I don't do cameos." He wanted the movie to be about him and since it wasn't going to be he's not in the movie. Apparently the scene didn't work anyway.

 

[archeryguy1701]

Maybe Shatner will be in it, wearing a fat suit, no toupe, and glasses. And at the end, we could get to see him doing a rediculous dance number!

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Here is the most direct answer given thus far as to why Shatner is not in the movie. J.J. Abrams finally discusses in an interview what quite a few people - many in the production as well as others - have known for some time:

It was very tricky. We actually had written a scene with him in it that was a flashback kind of thing, but the truth is, it didn't quite feel right. The bigger thing was that he was very vocal that he didn't want to do a cameo. We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves.

Link

Italics are mine.

 

[archeryguy1701]

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...We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves.

Link

Italics are mine.

Well, that would seem to be consistant with what we've heard about him from his Trek years. Good to know some things haven't changed.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

...but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly...

I REFUSE to believe this!

Okay, well, maybe I can believe it just a little.

 

[VOODOOXI]

Here is the most direct answer given thus far as to why Shatner is not in the movie. J.J. Abrams finally discusses in an interview what quite a few people - many in the production as well as others - have known for some time:

It was very tricky. We actually had written a scene with him in it that was a flashback kind of thing, but the truth is, it didn't quite feel right. The bigger thing was that he was very vocal that he didn't want to do a cameo. We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves.

Link

Italics are mine.

It's official Shatner is an ass. He should have put his ego aside and just done the film.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

It's official Shatner is an ass. He should have put his ego aside and just done the film.

Actually, I'm going to go with Shatner on this one.

A flashback would have been lame. And just how would that have worked exactly, given that he looks so different from how he did when he 'died'?

Skip it, Shatner. You are pure genius on "Boston Legal."

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's official Shatner is an ass. He should have put his ego aside and just done the film.

Not wanting to do the film "no matter what" doesn't make Shatner an ass. Just selective.

As has been pointed out Shatner is doing very well these days with a variety of work that's both lucrative and has garnered professional recognition (and occasionally, both at the same time). His current acting career has escaped "Star Trek." So for him to decline to do another "Star Trek" movie if he didn't see some special reward - whether financial or creative - in it is completely reasonable.

And, of course, Abrams also suggests that the producers weren't certain that using the brief Shatner scene would have worked well in the movie. It's in no one's interest to enlist Shatner in the project and then cut his scene.

What bugged me a little about Shatner's statements throughout this whole imbroglio (and I like Shatner; my annoyance is more often with some of the attitudes expressed on his behalf by some others than anything else) is that I thought they were misleading and thereby took some unfair advantage of the feelings of his admirers. He did meet and speak with Abrams and others and he did have every reason to understand why the film was proceeding without him. There was no real mystery here; just (apparently) bruised feelings.

That's why I expressed the opinion that a prepared reply to all of those reporters would have been more professional than all the extemporaneous variations of "I don't know/ no one will tell me / I'm mystified by the business logic" etc.

Shatner padded the part of the demurring star. Go figure.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

What bugged me a little about Shatner's statements throughout this whole imbroglio (and I like Shatner; my annoyance is with some of the attitudes expressed on his behalf by some others than anything else) is that I thought they were misleading and thereby took some unfair advantage of the feelings of his admirers. He did meet and speak with Abrams and others and he did have every reason to understand why the film was proceeding without him. There was no real mystery here; just (apparently) bruised feelings.

He probably couldn't conceive of the idea of them going on without him. If he couldn't allow himself to accept that concept, he couldn't really explain it to others.

 

[Jon1701]

Here is the most direct answer given thus far as to why Shatner is not in the movie. J.J. Abrams finally discusses in an interview what quite a few people - many in the production as well as others - have known for some time:

It was very tricky. We actually had written a scene with him in it that was a flashback kind of thing, but the truth is, it didn't quite feel right. The bigger thing was that he was very vocal that he didn't want to do a cameo. We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves.

Link

Italics are mine.

This is what we (well, those of us that know what we are talking about )were saying in this forum months, nay years back.

We were right!

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I'm still holding out for Sam Cogley's Boston Legal-style Ending, remote as it may seem.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Orci has said that he'll post Shatner/Kirk's scene online after the movie is released. Should be interesting.

 

[ClayinCA]

That's good - at least we'll have some idea of what they were planning. I wonder if the scene will be in the novelisation...