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Will the 'Fans' Turn on Steven Moffat?

Will Fandom Turn on Steven Moffat?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 60.0%

  • No

    Votes: 20 40.0%
  • Total voters
    50
TedShatner10

TedShatner10

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Despite the whinging directed against Russell T. Davies, the first four seasons of NuWho have been an outstanding critical and commercial success, with viewing figures and the AI rising in Season Four despite the Lawrence Miles style meltdowns on many talk forums over it's supposed lack of quality, making me wonder if I've been watching the same show as them.

Sure there were a couple of slightly duff episodes and the winning formula established by RTD was begining to get stale, but I personally thought Season Four was pretty solid and more even in quality than Seasons Two and Three (which had the rather flat "New Earth" and pretty duff Dalek two parter).

And while RTD did the right thing in handing the keys over to Steven Moffat before his repetition of ideas got genuinely annoying, I won't be surprised that the Honeymoon period that Steven Moffat had with NuWho fandom will end when he is in charge of the franchise, although it perhaps seems to had ended with the Library two parter (if it's mixed reviews were anything to go by, but I enjoyed it as much as "The Girl in the Fireplace"). I just find the opinions of NuWho to be highly fickle, selective, agendered, and self contradictory to be truly placated and I dread to think what the online whinging would've been like if RTD failed with Season One and NuWho got cancelled three years ago
 
Of course they will, that's what the Internet is all about.........pron and complaining, i don't think there is a human being with Internet access that does not dip into one or both of these as some point.

As for RTD, although there was some really duff episodes, nobody can deny he took a basically dead show which the BBC had slowly killed over the year and successfully brought it back to life, and also made it a must see sat night Tv show again, not a easy feat to do today with the amount of channels and other electronic media that's available nowadays in your home.
 
As a group, absolutely. Individually (and separate from the internet), not so much.

I would be very shocked if I did, especially considering I'm a long time fan of his (Coupling and Jekyll along with Doctor Who).
 
Of course they will! As soon as he puts out one episode that's RTD-ish or re-uses a phrase or event from a previous episode the utter cretins will be up in arms!
 
Really what difference will it make? they will all tune in every week so they can moan that Who has been destroyed.
 
TedShatner10 said:
Despite the whinging directed against Russell T. Davies, the first four seasons of NuWho have been an outstanding critical and commercial success, with viewing figures and the AI rising in Season Four despite the Lawrence Miles style meltdowns on many talk forums over it's supposed lack of quality, making me wonder if I've been watching the same show as them.
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Fortunately for Moffatt if the opinions of loud-fingered Internet fans actually were important (i.e. they constituted a large proportion of viewers) he would not have a job in the first place - the show would be axed!

As long as the average viewer, be they entertained adult or wowed kid, still enjoys the show, and continues to watch in their millions, Moffatt will happily laugh off any of the wet pedantic whinging which generally passes as criticism on the Internet.
 
There are all ways some people who will tune in to a show they hate every single week then come on trek bbs to moan about it.
You only have to look a SGA forums to prove my point.
 
Of course fandom will turn on Steven Moffat. Fandom always turns on its idols. Fans will never be happy.

Why?

Because fans want something that's exciting and new and exactly like what they remember.

Mark my words, by the time Moffat announces he's leaving the show, there will be people on Outpost Gallifrey and TrekBBS with user icons showing a picture of Moffat with the words "WANTED FOR CRIMES AGAINST BRITISH SCI-FI" on them.
 
I have no doubt that in two years we will be reading posts from people complaining that Steven Moffat has become a creatively bankrupt hack who should never have been given the kind of power he now has since his best work was clearly when he had the genius RTD overruling him. (Note: fandom's opinion of RTD will change). Now that he's his own boss, Moffat clearly doesn't know his own limits and is trying to outdo himself, succeeding only in biting off more than he can chew. And what's with his idiotic dialogue? "Winky-wonky techy-wechy" is just derivitive of his own far superior "wibbly-wobbly timey-timey" from Blink. Jeez, remember Blink? Back when Doctor Who was good? Hey Moffat, take a look at your previous works. You might remember how to be a good writer again. I knew there was a reason you didn't win a Hugo this year.

Yep, this is the kind of rant you can look forward to seeing in 2010.
 
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I have no doubt that in two years we will be reading posts from people complaining that Steven Moffat has become a creatively bankrupt hack who should never have been given the kind of power he now has since his best work was clearly when he had the genius RTD overruling him. (Note: fandom's opinion of RTD will change). Now that he's his own boss, Moffat clearly doesn't know his own limits and is trying to outdo himself, succeeding only in biting off more than he can chew. And what's with his idiotic dialogue? "Winky-wonky techy-wechy" is just derivitive of his own far superior "wibbly-wobbly timey-timey" from Blink. Jeez, remember Blink? Back when Doctor Who was good? Hey Moffat, take a look at your previous works. You might remember how to be a good writer again. I knew there was a reason you didn't win a Hugo this year.

Yep, this is the kind of rant you can look forward to seeing in 2010.
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It's like I hopped into the Tardis and went to Outpost Gallifrey.


Although I never saw a problem with RTD.
 
Sci said:
Mark my words, by the time Moffat announces he's leaving the show, there will be people on Outpost Gallifrey and TrekBBS with user icons showing a picture of Moffat with the words "WANTED FOR CRIMES AGAINST BRITISH SCI-FI" on them.
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Wibbly-wobbley timey wimey!! :lol:
 
He will be turned into the anti christ and then the same will happen to his replacement :p

It's just how we roll down in these parts:cool:
 
The mistake with the premise is to lob all of fandom into some homogeneous uber-being with a single hive-mind. It, of course, isn't - it's broken up into many factions and shades of grey in between.

I'm sure that just as with Davies, JNT, Hinchcliffe, Letts and indeed any of the previous producers there will be those who loathe him, those that love him, those who couldn't give a toss and so on. Whether the ratio of fans that despise him will be larger than those who put him on a pedestal (and whether in time that pedestal is deserved or not) I could not say with any certainty at this time, and I think stating predictions one way or the other at this point as solid facts is pretty foolhardy, and in the end meaningless really.

I do know, however, that what I have seen from him in his writing, and heard from him in interviews shows a solid and fundamental understanding of (at least what I think) the show should be about mixed with an ability to be able to tell really cool stories that are among the most interesting and engaging I have ever seen in a Doctor Who story. It's a blessing as well as a curse, since he has set the bar so amazingly high, it's going to be difficult to maintain that standard, but he is off to an awesome start in that direction.

True, some fans are expecting all sorts of stuff he most likely won't deliver, and there will always be that faction who are unsatisfied with what he does no matter what, but on the whole I expect Grand Moff Steven to do pretty well as he knows what makes the show tick.
 
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