My personal favorite? When Deanna tells Riker that her mother's coming onboard and suddenly Picard decides that now would make a wonderful time to take a vacation. (Captain's Holiday)
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Because she was a pointless character created soley to give Majel Barrett another job.
You're a far kinder and more gentle person than I am. I salute your restraint.
I was going to say we could give her to the Borg, but I doubt even they would take her.
What do you want to do, run her through with a Lightsaber?
You know, all of this wouldn't even be necessary if at the end of that third season episode (Don't remember the name). Picard would've had the stones to say "lock phasers and fire". But no, he had to recite poetry.
If the damned Ferengi wanted her, Picard should have let them have her.
I loved her character. It was the larger than life personae, the outlandish costumes were very striking, and, she is very attractive with those Betazed eyes. I think we got to see several sides of her, and another when she appeared in DS9.
Yep. And all of them annoying.
``Oh, now, resistance is futile, darlings!''
My favorite episode was when she was on the away team and posed as Fred Rutherford's wife.
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Although I agree with some comments here, that she could be quite annoying, and not very comically original, you'd have to have a hard heart not to have empathised with her character in "Half a Life", "Dark Page" or "Forsaken".
"Dark Page" was (in my opinion) a strong, character driven episode which stands out from quite a poor seventh season. It is an episode of Trek that literally moved me to tears. The acting from Marina, Majel and Kirsten Dunst was superb.
"Dark Page" was (in my opinion) a strong, character driven episode which stands out from quite a poor seventh season. It is an episode of Trek that literally moved me to tears. The acting from Marina, Majel and Kirsten Dunst was superb.
Great observation; I'll remember that.
Those characters have a certain genius of turning out right even in the midst of the dust devils they create, such as the occasion of the Antedean assassins posing as a diplomatic delegation attempting to bomb a conference on Pacifica using ultritium in "Manhunt."
Then I have a hard heart. I REALLY wanted her to die at the end of "Dark Page" was was bitterly disapointed when she didn't.
And, in my view, the episodes you cite above ruined her character (If such a thing was even possible). Those episodes tried to show her in a serious light, and that's not what she's about. She's a silly character intended for laughs (and patheic ones at that), and trying to make her "serious" just made a moronic situation even more patheic.
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten about that. I love the offhandedness of her revealing their plot.
Fair enough, we all have opinions and a forum would be a dull place if we all agreed with each other.
True.
Trekker4747, et al.,
You know, I was kind of ambivalent about her, until they started to use her in more serious eps. I think she was used most effectively in Half A Life with David Ogden Stiers. It is a good ep to show to the uninitiated. I watched it years ago with my then-fiance and her roommate, who had the usual preconceived notions about science fiction.
After asking such questions as, "Why does that man have pale skin," about Data, and "Who is that ferocious-looking man?" about Worf, at the end, she said, "Hey, that was pretty good! I liked it and the message about old age." And I said, "Yeah, Star Trek is about more than ships and phasers. There's usually a theme to their eps." Good thing we didn't watch Rascals together!
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You know, I was kind of ambivalent about her, until they started to use her in more serious eps. I think she was used most effectively in Half A Life with David Ogden Stiers. It is a good ep to show to the uninitiated. I watched it years ago with my then-fiance and her roommate, who had the usual preconceived notions about science fiction.
After asking such questions as, "Why does that man have pale skin," about Data, and "Who is that ferocious-looking man?" about Worf, at the end, she said, "Hey, that was pretty good! I liked it and the message about old age." And I said, "Yeah, Star Trek is about more than ships and phasers. There's usually a theme to their eps." Good thing we didn't watch Rascals together!
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I guess I always thought of her as Gene's Yoko.
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Indeed; that is a classic Trek moment, IMO. Her delivery was perfect. All in a day's work, LOL.
I agree; for me that is a uniquely unforgettable episode. It's one that really makes you think; she did a good job in that.
Why can't a character be used well in serious and comic situations? Why place such a limitation?
It's not that she can't. She was written and played for laughs. She was never meant to be taken seriously, and when she was, it came off as stupid. At least, I thought so. Of course, to this day I hate her.
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