Bring back Number One!

[Franklin]

Please say the tribbles are a joke. It's a major discontinuity if anybody encounters them prior to the timeframe of "The Trouble With Tribbles."

Not necessarily -- the crew does not need to even notice them...

...the tribbles could be in a cage on a vendor's table in some alien village "marketplace" that Kirk and McCoy happen to be walking through. They could be talking to each other and walk right past the tribble vendor without caring what they are or taking note of what the guy is selling.

I'm not saying a scene such as this should be in the film; I'm just saying it's not necessarily a continuity error.

You're actually pretty close.

From a trekmovie.com report back on Christmas, 2007:

TrekMovie.com has learned from a trusted source that the new Star Trek movie will have a cameo from the one of the most iconic Trek creatures…the Tribble. One of the small furry creatures will be seen in one scene, apparently in a cage or container of some sort.

 

[LutherSloan]

I think the bigger question is...will Majel Barrett do the computer voice for the movie?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

"Number One" didn't go because NBC wasn't forward-thinking enough - that was GR's story. No one liked the character, because no one liked the actress.

The character as conceived was interesting, but Majel Barret wasn't dynamic enough for the role especially considering that Number One was the female lead of the series and a potential ongoing "love interest" for Pike. She just didn't seem capable of holding her own against Hunter. However, Barret was exceptional in the role of Lwaxanna Troi.

The topic of Number One and the various reasons for her departure from the series are discussed in detail in Inside Star Trek by Herb Solow and Robert Justman.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

^I doubt it too, and I think a lot will depend on just exactly what time-frame we're talking about here. We know that Spock served under Pike for 11 years and four months, about 13 years prior to the events of 'The Menagerie'.Number One was Pike's XO at that time, which most likely was around the beginning of Spock's service under Pike. I'm guessing that closer to the time of Kirk taking command, Pike most likely had a different First Officer.So, if the movie shows the Enterprise under Pike close to the time that Kirk takes command, then we most likely won't see Number One. I'm actually wondering if we'll see two different time-frames of the Pike era; one early one when Spock graduates from the Academy and is assigned to the Enterprise, and one much later, when Kirk is poised to take over.IMO, this has to be the way its done, because to believe that Kirk became a captain just out of the Academy is just plain silly, not to mention it would greatly contradict canon.

Well-reasoned... but possibly stretching the issue a bit further than "fits." By that, I mean that I really don't think that the film will be as "Enterprise-centered" as you're inferring here.

I really don't think that this film is going to be "Enterprise-centric" at all. We know that they all end up together (in whatever role) in a scene at the end of the film which is set on the 1701 Bridge (whatever that bridge set happens to look like... can't be TOO different, otherwise the "magic" feel people keep talking about really wouldn't fit well, would it?)

Here's the sequence I expect the film to incorporate:

1) Framing sequence #1 - Spock in the 24th century. Probably about six to ten minutes of screen time... maybe less. Whether this leads to Spock time-travelling or not is yet to be established.

2) Early-to-mid-23rd-century setting... Shikahr City (sp?) on Vulcan. Sarek and Amanda and infant Spock being born.

3) Mid-23rd-century setting... older starship... George Kirk is assigned to the ship... SOMETHING happens, and George Kirk is killed.

4) Mid-23rd-century setting... Iowa, Kirk Farm. Young Jimmy finds out about his father's death. This is a a formative moment in Kirk's personality.

5) Mid-to-late-23rd-century setting... San Francisco. Kirk at the Academy (not as a cadet, but rather as a full Lieutenant who's returned for the Command (advanced) Course. Takes (and cheats on) the Kobayashi Maru. Fully expect to see Spock. May also see Scott. Could see Mitchell, Finnegan, Ruth, Carol, Gill, Finney, etc, etc... but not as major characters (ie, non-fans won't know or care about who these guys are in "trek-history" terms) Do NOT expect to see McCoy, Sulu, Chekov, Uhura. Kirk is punished by getting assigned to a "bad" certification cruise (same cruise as Lt. Saavik was on for TWOK) rather than a "glory posting."

6) Kirk on his cruise... Spock also likely aboard. Something bad happens... Kirk has to take charge of things (senior officer killed or disabled?) Spock's "older cousin" may come back into play at this point (if time travel is involved). Fully expect Scott to be present. Hope to see civilian McCoy involved. Cadets Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura could be present (similar to the cadets Saavik commanded in TWOK).

7) Enterprise (under command of Pike) comes to the rescue after Kirk manages to prove his mettle. Enterprise was called by Spock (who previously served under the command of Pike). If time travel is really involved... "which Spock?"

8) Since this is a "big movie"... most likely a "big event" involving Enterprise and some "bad guy" at this point (think of "The Poseidon Adventure" as the model... Kirk and Co. not on Enterprise, but facing a deadline (and possibly hostiles) while Enterprise (under Pike) races to get to a point where they can rescue the survivors (under Kirk).

9) Kirk and Co. are rescued... all end up on the Bridge for the penultimate sequence of the film... Kirk is not in command but expresses a desire to "sit in that center seat someday."

10) Final sequence involving Nimoy's Spock. Possibly in the 24th century, possibly in the 23rd... very likely involves death, though could involve "riding off into the sunset" once again. In any case, it will seem like a sacrifice and a very noble one at that. If time travel ISN'T present, something else has to provide that "noble denouement." (Possibly a handing-the-torch to a 24th-century successor... maybe even a Romulan?)

 

[Cyrus]

It's OK for the tribbles to be in the movie, as long as nobody asks them who they are, or if they don't identify themselves as tribbles.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

It's OK for the tribbles to be in the movie, as long as nobody asks them who they are, or if they don't identify themselves as tribbles.

Maybe we can see a few Tribbles in Starfleet uniforms at the Academy Parade Ground scene?

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Please say the tribbles are a joke. It's a major discontinuity if anybody encounters them prior to the timeframe of "The Trouble With Tribbles."

Not necessarily -- the crew does not need to even notice them...

...the tribbles could be in a cage on a vendor's table in some alien village "marketplace" that Kirk and McCoy happen to be walking through. They could be talking to each other and walk right past the tribble vendor without caring what they are or taking note of what the guy is selling.

I'm not saying a scene such as this should be in the film; I'm just saying it's not necessarily a continuity error.

You're actually pretty close.

From a trekmovie.com report back on Christmas, 2007:

TrekMovie.com has learned from a trusted source that the new Star Trek movie will have a cameo from the one of the most iconic Trek creatures…the Tribble. One of the small furry creatures will be seen in one scene, apparently in a cage or container of some sort.

I'm sure I got the 'caged tribbles' idea from trekmovie.com...I visit that site regulary.

 

[DrTaylor]

I will sooooooo boycott this film if Number One isn't in it!!!!!

Really?

 

[TIN_MAN]

Wasn't Jennifer Garner rumered to be in the film? She'd make a great Number One IMHO.

 

[Procutus]

It's OK for the tribbles to be in the movie, as long as nobody asks them who they are, or if they don't identify themselves as tribbles.

Maybe we can see a few Tribbles in Starfleet uniforms at the Academy Parade Ground scene?

With sombreros?

 

[Procutus]

Well-reasoned... but possibly stretching the issue a bit further than "fits." By that, I mean that I really don't think that the film will be as "Enterprise-centered" as you're inferring here.

I really don't think that this film is going to be "Enterprise-centric" at all. We know that they all end up together (in whatever role) in a scene at the end of the film which is set on the 1701 Bridge (whatever that bridge set happens to look like... can't be TOO different, otherwise the "magic" feel people keep talking about really wouldn't fit well, would it?)


10) Final sequence involving Nimoy's Spock. Possibly in the 24th century, possibly in the 23rd... very likely involves death, though could involve "riding off into the sunset" once again. In any case, it will seem like a sacrifice and a very noble one at that. If time travel ISN'T present, something else has to provide that "noble denouement." (Possibly a handing-the-torch to a 24th-century successor... maybe even a Romulan?)

Wow, talk about well-reasoned, that was a great potential breakdown of what we might see next May. It certainly would solve some of the canon/continuity issues I have, such as Kirk's time as an instructor at the Academy, his tenure about the U.S.S. Farragut, all during Pike's time as captain of the Enterprise.

RE, your final comment above, Leonard Nimoy indicated in something I read fairly recently that he wouldn't be adverse to doing Spock again, somewhat indicating that Old Spock doesn't necessarily die in this one. Not a total confirmation, but an indication, at least.

You have a great premise, though I DO hope the we see more of the Big E in it than you're thinking. And yeah, I want to see how that bridge looks, soooooooooo badly.

 

[Timewalker]

It's OK for the tribbles to be in the movie, as long as nobody asks them who they are, or if they don't identify themselves as tribbles.

Maybe we can see a few Tribbles in Starfleet uniforms at the Academy Parade Ground scene?

With sombreros?

Couldn't do the uniforms, but here is a Tribble wearing a sombrero:

 

[Procutus]

^That is too funny.

 

[number6]

Here's SOMBRERO TRIBBLE!!!(tm).

I will be posting a new adventure soon!!

 

[Procutus]

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