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Obama Suggests $2 Billion In New Funding for NASA

Bill Morris

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From The Washington Post:
Obama Suggests $2 Billion In New Funding for NASA
By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 19, 2008; Page A04

Sen. Barack Obama has detailed a comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA and a promise to make space exploration and science a significantly higher priority if he is elected president.

Obama's campaign said the additional NASA funds would be paid for by rolling back congressional earmarks to what they were in 1994, and by using the newly formed advisory council to potentially re-allocate space funding.

Among the more expensive proposals is Obama's plan to flying an additional shuttle mission to bring a $1.5 billion particle detector to the station. NASA dropped plans to ferry up the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer after the Columbia disaster, even though the instrument is one of the most expensive ever built and was funded by a group of international governments and universities.

Under current NASA plans, the last shuttle mission will fly in summer of 2010, and the three-spacecraft fleet will be retired after that. The aging shuttles are expensive to maintain and operate, and under current budgets NASA will not have funds to build the new Constellation spacecraft unless the shuttle is grounded.

Full article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/18/AR2008081802171_2.html
 
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Several things...

1.) This new funding could only (conceivably) happen if Obama's elected.

2.) An additional $2 Billion isn't really as much as it seems. I'm amazed NASA can function on such a shoe-string budget of $17.5 Billion.

3.) Where exactly do Obama or McCain plan to get the money for their NASA proposals?

4.) Why does anyone believe a politician when they say they will support NASA? They quit being enthusiastic about Space the moment Neil Armstrong took that one small step for Man.
 
Several things...

1.) This new funding could only (conceivably) happen if Obama's elected.

:wtf: Erm, So vote for him.

2.) An additional $2 Billion isn't really as much as it seems. I'm amazed NASA can function on such a shoe-string budget of $17.5 Billion..

Better than nothing.

3.) Where exactly do Obama or McCain plan to get the money for their NASA proposals?.

He already said.

4.) Why does anyone believe a politician when they say they will support NASA? They quit being enthusiastic about Space the moment Neil Armstrong took that one small step for Man.

Obama can be trusted.
 
Obama can be trusted.

He's lied rather frequently so far. As much as space travel and exploration are priorities to me, this will be the first time I'll have voted against a Democratic candidate for any office (oddly enough, against my state senator of four years ago, whom I supported until I learned more about him in the intervening time).
 
Obama can be trusted.

He's lied rather frequently so far. As much as space travel and exploration are priorities to me, this will be the first time I'll have voted against a Democratic candidate for any office (oddly enough, against my state senator of four years ago, whom I supported until I learned more about him in the intervening time).

Who is the girl in your avatar? She looks really familiar and I can't put my finger on it...
 
Several things...

1.) This new funding could only (conceivably) happen if Obama's elected.

:wtf: Erm, So vote for him.

Not a chance. He sounds like the ideological son of Jimmy Carter. I don't want something like Carter's failed policies to be enacted again. The Free World is not in a position where that kind of foolishness can be withstood.

3.) Where exactly do Obama or McCain plan to get the money for their NASA proposals?.

He already said.

When and where?

4.) Why does anyone believe a politician when they say they will support NASA? They quit being enthusiastic about Space the moment Neil Armstrong took that one small step for Man.

Obama can be trusted.

There's no such thing as a politician that can be trusted. There never has been one and there will never be one either.
 
“I grew up on Star Trek,” Obama said. “I believe in the final frontier.”
But Obama said he does not agree with the way the space program is now being run and thinks funding should be trimmed until the mission is clearer.
“NASA has lost focus and is no longer associated with inspiration,” he said. “I don’t think our kids are watching the space shuttle launches. It used to be a remarkable thing. It doesn’t even pass for news anymore.”


http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/03/07/obama-nasa-no-longer-associated-with-inspiration/



So what's it going to REALLY be Mr. Obama.



Please make up your mind.....
 
Obama can be trusted.

:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

Yeah right....

What poll did you look at to come up with that conclusion? Or bette yet, what poll did Obama look at to come up with this plan?

Obama doesn't do or take any position on something before he looks at the polls. He's twice as bad as Bill Clinton ever was. Not to mention that he bucks the polls even when the American people are overwhelmingly FOR something. *ahem* off-shore drilling * ahem*



DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS...
 
Several things...

1.) This new funding could only (conceivably) happen if Obama's elected.

:wtf: Erm, So vote for him.

Not a chance. He sounds like the ideological son of Jimmy Carter. I don't want something like Carter's failed policies to be enacted again. The Free World is not in a position where that kind of foolishness can be withstood.

Right on...

I'm an Illinois resident, and I didn't buy is hype 4 years ago, and therefore didn't vote for him then, so I sure as hell ain't gonna vote for him now, for the most important job in the world.

Obama's problem as I see it is that he is a typical Chicago politian. There's nothing "new" about his style of politics, it's just that the country isn't familiar with Cook County (Chicago) politics. Cook County runs Illinois, practically. Whatever Chicago wants, Springfield delivers. In fact, Illinois would be a Red State if it weren't for Chicago, and every state college town that gets a lot of its students from the Chicago area.

Anyway, back to Obama...what Obama doesn't understand is that MOST if not ALL national political races are highly contested. His Senate win in '04 was a landslide with little effort of his own. So every time he complains about McCain's politicing, it just reveals what he thinks political races are all about...there should be only one candidate and if you don't vote for him/her, you're wrong and stupid.

Obama's latest likeability/negative poll ratings are now more negative than positive. Why? Because people are beginning to see how thin skinned he is. How he takes every challenge to his record or character as "just that same ol' politics". No Barack...it's called a contestive political race...not the cake walk you had against Allen Keyes.
 
Obama's latest likeability/negative poll ratings are now more negative than positive. Why? Because people are beginning to see how thin skinned he is. How he takes every challenge to his record or character as "just that same ol' politics". No Barack...it's called a contestive political race...not the cake walk you had against Allen Keyes.

Ya know Admiral Rico, you could have just called him a P***y and been done with it... ;)
 
Any links to this plan, rather than CNN saying it exists?

Not that I trust this next waffle any more than any other position change he's done in the past few months.

AG
 
Obama can be trusted.

:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

Yeah right....

What poll did you look at to come up with that conclusion? Or bette yet, what poll did Obama look at to come up with this plan?

Obama doesn't do or take any position on something before he looks at the polls. He's twice as bad as Bill Clinton ever was. Not to mention that he bucks the polls even when the American people are overwhelmingly FOR something. *ahem* off-shore drilling * ahem*

So you think it's a bad thing to bend with the polls and you claim that Obama does this, but then you present his "bucking" of the polls as a negative when it comes to off-shore drilling? The Republicans are against gay unions and universal health care and the majority of Americans want those, is that a positive or a negative for them?


DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS...

That quote is a bunch of bullshit. It should say "announce drilling now, pay a fwe dimes less in the short term, wait several years for the new oil to reach peak flow and watch the price of gas increase substantially anyway."

But that would be complicated, and we all know how much some people prefer slogans and sound-bites to complexity.
 
I'm all for funding NASA.

And schools, while we're at it.

Oh, and I'd love to see some funds made available for museums.

And parks, while we're at it.

Also, funding the arts wouldn't be such a bad idea.
 
I'm all for funding NASA.

And schools, while we're at it.

Oh, and I'd love to see some funds made available for museums.

And parks, while we're at it.

Also, funding the arts wouldn't be such a bad idea.

As long as the funding for schools, museums and parks (excluding national ones like Yellowstone) come from local/state sources, I have no problem with this idea.

Funding the arts is a tougher sell. I'm something of an artist myself. However, I don't like the idea of Federal funds being used on something that isn't critical to the needs of the Republic.

Those funds might be better spent on:

1.) Defense
2.) Maintaining the national infrastructure (which includes NASA)
3.) Ensuring everyone plays fair in the marketplace
4.) Protecting the rights of citizens and legal U.S. Residents

Those are the ONLY things the Federal government should do anyway.

Also, I don't want my tax dollars spent on something exceptionally vulgar like the Piss Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

Somehow, I doubt the 'artist' really needed $15,000 from the National Endowment for the Arts to take a picture of a crucifix in a jar of his own urine. That is a TERRIBLE waste of money. The Pentagon probably could have used that to buy a few toilet seats, for Christ's sake! :lol:
 
All right, I should have stepped in earlier, but I was at a convention this weekend and didn't have the chance to check in that I thought I would. I apologize.

Folks, I know it's tempting. Goddess knows I know it's tempting, but can we please try to keep the discussion focused on the candidates' stances on NASA funding?

And Johnny, I know how much you want to bash Obama just in general, but I could bash McCain right back with equal fervor. Let's keep the political fireworks in TNZ where they belong, please?
 
Again, any link to this plan (not an article saying it exists, the actual plan!) or it's just another waffle.... and may still be even if the plan has been drafted since it's contrary to previous statements Obama has made about the budget for space.


Got syrup?


AG
 
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