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Did we land on moon?

Did we land on the moon?

  • Yes...no doubt about it

    Votes: 123 93.9%
  • No....One big hoax

    Votes: 5 3.8%
  • Don't know enough to say...

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • Total voters
    131
  • Poll closed .
Many people have said "this list is obviously stupid and wrong" and yet so far only one person has attempted to refute one single question of the 33.


Respectfully,... I have a bachelor degree in engineering. I find this list absolutely insulting. Anyone with a decent high school education could answer most of these with a basic understanding in science and physics.

"Why don't the stars show in pictures?" Because the lunar surface is so FRAKING bright with reflected sun light that a proper ASA/shutter speed would have eclipsed their faint light...

You'll not find any hidden secrets under every rock...just worms and other bugs.... This shit just pisses me off....:brickwall:
 
So this is the appropriate thread I needed to post the following;

"here in Japan, it was recently reported that NASA lost some 700 boxes full of the original audio, visual tapes and records of Apollo program and further more that the laser measuring system claimed to be the most prominent evidence that man went to the moon was not able to be verified by other research institutions around the globe except the ones in the US.
Japan tried a similar test in the 90's only to fail stating the reflectors were not accurate enough."

So what is the verdict?
 
So this is the appropriate thread I needed to post the following;

"here in Japan, it was recently reported that NASA lost some 700 boxes full of the original audio, visual tapes and records of Apollo program and further more that the laser measuring system claimed to be the most prominent evidence that man went to the moon was not able to be verified by other research institutions around the globe except the ones in the US.
Japan tried a similar test in the 90's only to fail stating the reflectors were not accurate enough."

What, you mean the reflectors on the moon? The ones they can't verify the existence of, yet curiously are able to tell us are not very accurate?!
 
Forgot about this thread. Here read this which proves we didn't land on the moon and if you still believe the lie then answer these questions at the bottom of the page:

Sure pal, here ya go.
Bottom line, these accusations made are silly. I'd love to see how a *really* smart person could shred them instead of the mere flogging I'm giving them here.

AG

1. Already answered.

2. Reduced atmospheric pressure (like in the Apollo spacecraft) also reduces the partial pressures of the gasses in the mix.

3. There was no atmosphere for the LM descent stage motor to displace, therefore, the blast effect of the engine was contained to the immediate area of the nozzle since the exhaust gasses dissipated rapidly into the vacuum.

4. All spacecraft carried their own oxidizer for their fuels. By extension of the logic employed by this question, all scuba divers should suffocate.

5. Footprints are caused by a foot compressing the soil under them. Unless some other influence comes along later, the soil remains undisturbed.

6. The Apollo 11 images were broadcast by a last minute hacked together "Scan converter" consisting of a CRT that displayed the slow scan TV transmitted by the Apollo hardware, couples with a standard TV camera, all housed in a flat black box. This was a last minute project for 11, and they came up with better scan conversion technology for subsequent missions. The gentleman that came up with the innovative solution is still in the scan converter business.

7. Provide an image to illustrate this. I may or not be able to provide an answer from my personal knowledge, but someone will either be able to answer, or call "BS" on the "fact" you present.

8. See 7.

9. Maybe the guys that put the face on mars had a bad day.

10. Are you referring to the recovery beacon antenna that was deployed after reentry to assist in locating the spacecraft? Yep, sure are.

11. The shadowed side of the craft is much colder than the sunny side, and material contucts heat. The bulk of the craft itself acted in part like a heat sink for the sunward side. The movie portrayed much in a fairly accurate light, but was dramatized. They also didn't have modular phone jphone acks during the Apollo era, yet the phone used by Ken Mattingly (Gary Sinese) had modular plugs on the handset. Bottom line, don't use a movie as a reference for historical fact.

12. The LM had been used in earth and lunar orbital operations. The LM landing gear had been tested on earth with apporiate test weight. NASA was unable to build a test moon in their lab due to size constraints.

13. They didn't try jumping that high. Think about what would happen to a persons center of gravity with a PLSS backpack with o2 tanks, CO2 scrubbers, refrigeration system, and batteries all strapped to their back. would YOU want to wind up like a turtle on your back a quarter of a million miles from home? Didn't think so.

14. See 13.

15. So you're saying golf carts are a conspiracy also? They're more narrow than small cars! The rover was designed with a low center of gravity, just like a sports car that can pull right at 1 lateral G on a skid pad.

16. Please provide information on these lethal solar flares that occurred during the missions. What? There weren't any?

17. Call Jaques Costeau! Apparently his dry suits are zeee impossible'!

18. Seams were designed to have the limbs "pre-bent" to some degree. Apollo lunar suits weren't pressurized to 5.2 PSI, but between 3.6 to 3.9 PSI.

19. Your buddy didn't measure real flight hardware, he measured a replica. Have him take his tape measure to KSC, the Smithsonian, the Cradle of Aviation Museum, or perhaps the Franklin Institute to measure actual LM parts.

20. Please provide a description of the physics involved here.

21. Perhaps it's still moving? Remember that this was a long thin pole and a support bar for the flag. There's gonna be some "sproinging" (Yeah, that's as accurate a term as the bogus claims you're making.)

22. Wide angle lens, and a camera man able to anticipate when the event would happen becuase they did what? Counted down? Oh yeah, counted down. Not sure why you're quoting Grissom here, the Block II craft were radically different from the Block I craft.

23. Ask him.

24. So you say. Provide proof.

25. Several hours? The speed of the spacecraft after the TLI burn was close to 25,000 MPH, and the same on the return leg when passing through the Van Allen Belt. This works out to about 1.5 hours of exposure while shielded in the craft.

26. The crew rotation was not set in stone, so there's no guarantee that the Apollo 1 crew would be in rotation when all prerequisite flight goals had been achieved for landing. See previous comment about Block II craft compared to Block I, and shame on you for continuing to bring the dead forth as "proof".

27, OK fine. how about we go through them at the speeds needed to reach the freakin' moon instead of lollygag in orbit in the belts? Seemed to work just fine last time. Please cite the CNN astrophysists that stated this.

28. Yeah. So? The LM Computer also crapped out on the Apollo 11 flight, Armstrong landed manually. Besides, the computers on the ground were big enough to calculate just when the ascent module should launch for optimum LOR. Good thing they had those radio things and good timekeeping, huh?

29. You mean like those laser retroreflectors deployed by 11, 14, and 15 that are actually reflecting lasers pointed at the moon back at the earth?
http://www.physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/apollo.html

30. The technology existed in 2005. They don't warehouse it as an off the shelf manned moon project though. Some assembly required.

31. Some films also show Apollo astronauts living in improvised shelters made of old ponchos and sticks. Does this mean that NASA put homeless people in spacecraft?

32. Clerical fuckup and a damn shame.

33. Show me some before and after pics as proof? Thanks.
 
So this is the appropriate thread I needed to post the following;

"here in Japan, it was recently reported that NASA lost some 700 boxes full of the original audio, visual tapes and records of Apollo program and further more that the laser measuring system claimed to be the most prominent evidence that man went to the moon was not able to be verified by other research institutions around the globe except the ones in the US.
Japan tried a similar test in the 90's only to fail stating the reflectors were not accurate enough."

What, you mean the reflectors on the moon? The ones they can't verify the existence of, yet curiously are able to tell us are not very accurate?!

D'oh! So, SamuraiBlue, are you going to tell us that Erich von Daniken Chariots of the Gods extraterrestrials put those reflectors on the moon? Eh? :guffaw: 'Cause they must have built the pyramids in Egypt and the Easter Island statues and the ziggurats in Central America! :rolleyes: -- RR
 
What, you mean the reflectors on the moon? The ones they can't verify the existence of, yet curiously are able to tell us are not very accurate?!

D'oh! So, SamuraiBlue, are you going to tell us that Erich von Daniken Chariots of the Gods extraterrestrials put those reflectors on the moon? Eh? :guffaw: 'Cause they must have built the pyramids in Egypt and the Easter Island statues and the ziggurats in Central America! :rolleyes: -- RR

As Pingfah had already posted,other nationsbesides the US cannot verify the existance of the reflectors on the moon.
Japan tried but failed as I have wrote.
So what reflectors would be a more appropriate answer.
 
This site says the Tokyo Astronomical Observatory was successful in 1972.

Well according to a spokesperson at the Japan National Observatory Center, the Dohira Observatory never was able to shoot a laser beam towards the moon in the 1970s.
This was confrimed by one of the researchers that was involved in the experiment.

There are also research paper published before the Apollo program that they were able to recieve feed-back from a laser shooting directly to the moon WITHOUT reflectors.
Professor Louis Smullin and Dr. Giorgio Fiocco, has the story.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,896204,00.html

Notice the date of when the article was published.
 
As Pingfah had already posted,other nations besides the US cannot verify the existance of the reflectors on the moon.
If other nations were capable of sending their own men to the moon they would easily be able to locate our landing sites, along with all the footprints and equipment left behind.

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I have trouble believing the Japanese were so incompetent that they could never "shoot a laser beam towards the moon in the 1970s." It's the frikkin' moon. How can anyone miss?

Anyway it takes more than anonymous internet say-so to discredit the Kozai paper. Do you have a copy of it?
 
I have trouble believing the Japanese were so incompetent that they could never "shoot a laser beam towards the moon in the 1970s." It's the frikkin' moon. How can anyone miss?

Anyway it takes more than anonymous internet say-so to discredit the Kozai paper. Do you have a copy of it?

*First of all, it was a direct inquiry made to the Japan National Observatory Center and the spokesperson was kind to respond.
If have doubts you can contact them directly making the same inquiry.
http://www.nao.ac.jp/QA/index.html


*Second, no research labratory outside of the US has been able to duplicate NASA's claim.

*Third as the article suggests you can not distinguish background reflection from refelction from the reflectors even if it was there so there is realyl no way to verify again NASA's claim that they had indeed installed a reflector.
 
Your claims are in contradiction of published fact. Doesn't that bother you?

You seem to be going out of your way to make the Japanese look like bad astronomers and that's simply not the case. They have a probe orbiting the moon right now you know. Er, maybe you don't.
 
*Third as the article suggests you can not distinguish background reflection from refelction from the reflectors even if it was there so there is realyl no way to verify again NASA's claim that they had indeed installed a reflector.
You say this as if you doubt that NASA landed men on the moon.

Where do you think the astronauts stayed betwen launch and splashdown?

Where do you think our stash of moon rocks came from?

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What bothers me most is that some people seem to think this debate is worth their time.
 
I have a personal pet theory about Conspiracy theorists.

I firmly believe that they take this route because they absolutely hate authority, and they hate it so badly they cannot accept anything that the authority puts out.

Think about it. No matter how much their theories have been debunked, they just can never accept it under any circumstances.

And they always use the same arguments for all leaders they target.
 
Your claims are in contradiction of published fact. Doesn't that bother you?

You seem to be going out of your way to make the Japanese look like bad astronomers and that's simply not the case. They have a probe orbiting the moon right now you know. Er, maybe you don't.

I am not contradicting anything.
In fact I am using published fact (the link) to shed light.(pun intended).
Japan didn't fail to verify, they didn't do the test altogther as I have wrote in my earlier post, they didn't shoot the laser towards the moon and even if they did it does not prove anything as posturated within the link I have provided.
As the May. 18,1962 Times article reports, Professor Louis Smullin and Dr. Giorgio Fiocco of MIT was able to retrieve reflected light from the moon WITHOUT reflectors.

As for the astronauts, they could have easily been going around orbit without going to the moon and make splash down.
The so called moon rock given to labratories all around the world came to the same conclusion, that it does not have any significant value since it show the same properties of certain earth rocks and have not been studied further.

As for Kaguya (AKA SELENE), JAXA have published a photo said to be landing site of Apollo 15. The white spot is said to be evidence of a halo that was created by liftoff.
Here is the photo.
20080520_kaguya_03l.jpg
:wtf:
 
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