Has Phoenix found something more compelling than Water?

[TerriO]

It is impossible to measure God scientifically, but I would say that He is omnipresent in all dimensions.

All right, logically, how do we allow something that is impossible to measure scientifically into a scientific theory or discussion? It's like any equation involving infinity. How can infinity be an answer if we can't even define it ourselves?

Now, if we get into multi-dimensional quantum theory, then does something that is without measure in our four-dimensional world suddenly become quantifiable? For instance, a point that exists in a single dimension suddenly has width in two-dimensional space, and height in three-dimensional space, measures it didn't posses in its home dimension. The more dimensions in which we're able to observe an object, the more understandable it is. Is this, perhaps, the reason we only have the understanding of the concept of God that we do? If God exists outside the fourth dimension of time, especially outside the concept of linear time, then sure, God could have no "point of origin" as we know it.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

NASA Scientist: Reports of Mars Life Finding Are 'Bogus'

A part of me almost thinks every denial like that is proof that they have. I have more faith in no comments than denials, I suppose because I have a rather negative view of humanity as a whole I'm afraid.

 

[Sheliak]

I often wonder about this kind of stuff... who created the existence God is part of? And who created God? Who are God's parents? And who created those who created God?

BTW, I AM religious, I just find it thought-provoking to ponder these kinds of questions.

God is infinite. Mary is the Mother of God.

 

[Linklinker]

I thought Mary was the mother of Jesus?

 

[BolianAuthor]

I often wonder about this kind of stuff... who created the existence God is part of? And who created God? Who are God's parents? And who created those who created God?

BTW, I AM religious, I just find it thought-provoking to ponder these kinds of questions.

God is infinite. Mary is the Mother of God.

Mary is the mother of Jesus, the one and only begotten son of God. Mary is a human, and thus, a creation of God himself, so how can God create his own creator?

 

[BolianAuthor]

It is impossible to measure God scientifically, but I would say that He is omnipresent in all dimensions.

All right, logically, how do we allow something that is impossible to measure scientifically into a scientific theory or discussion? It's like any equation involving infinity. How can infinity be an answer if we can't even define it ourselves?

Now, if we get into multi-dimensional quantum theory, then does something that is without measure in our four-dimensional world suddenly become quantifiable? For instance, a point that exists in a single dimension suddenly has width in two-dimensional space, and height in three-dimensional space, measures it didn't posses in its home dimension. The more dimensions in which we're able to observe an object, the more understandable it is. Is this, perhaps, the reason we only have the understanding of the concept of God that we do? If God exists outside the fourth dimension of time, especially outside the concept of linear time, then sure, God could have no "point of origin" as we know it.

We can define infinity just fine... infinity means being without end... going on forever.

Time is infinite. There is no such thing as "the end of time"... only our perception of time will end. But time is ever and omnipresent. Before we knew of time, there was time. After the universe ends, time will still be... it will merely be a time without our universe, just like there was time before our universe. Time can be an example of something infinite.

 

[James Bond]

I often wonder about this kind of stuff... who created the existence God is part of? And who created God? Who are God's parents? And who created those who created God?

BTW, I AM religious, I just find it thought-provoking to ponder these kinds of questions.

God is infinite. Mary is the Mother of God.

Mary is the mother of Jesus, the one and only begotten son of God. Mary is a human, and thus, a creation of God himself, so how can God create his own creator?

Godfather paradox.

 

[Zachary Smith]

God is infinite. Mary is the Mother of God.

Mary is the mother of Jesus, the one and only begotten son of God. Mary is a human, and thus, a creation of God himself, so how can God create his own creator?

Godfather paradox.

Are you suggesting He made Mary and offer she couldn't refuse?

 

[Sheliak]

God lives in the Eternal Now. Time is not infinite. God is the Alpha and the Omega.

Jesus is God and God has a Mother. Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity.

 

[Zachary Smith]

God lives in the Eternal Now. Time is not infinite. God is the Alpha and the Omega.

Jesus is God and God has a Mother. Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity.

And Thor lives in Asgard and Zeus on Olympus.

 

[Alpha_Geek]

OK.. so...

We've learned right here in this thread that:

God is infinite.
Time is infinite.

We already know that time is money.

Therefore, God=time=money?

 

[Alpha_Geek]

God lives in the Eternal Now. Time is not infinite. God is the Alpha and the Omega.

Jesus is God and God has a Mother. Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity.

...I am the walrus, Kookookachoo

 

[Irishman]

And how was God created?

He has always existed.

I want to say before I go any further that I am not trying to insult any religions here. I'm trying to put forth a scientific theory behind possible origins for the entity that we call "God."

While I'm not usually one to shy away from a good metaphysical discussion, let me try to throw this into the realms of the scientific here. If we accept that God has always existed, then he/she (depending on your faith) must exist outside the known dimension of time, correct? This would indicate that the entity that we call God should be able to walk through the temporal dimension much as we would walk through the three spatial dimensions, no?

I mean, it's been a while since I read Flatland, but if we look at what's known, then could what we call God be an extradimensional being who once had an effect on our four dimensional world?

At the same time, those who would cry foul at the presentation of a "God" who always existed ascribe a similar immortality to energy. Remember the law of conservation of energy? It can neither be created nor destroyed. Only changed from one form to another.

Um. Okay. Then the amount of energy that exists now is the same amount of energy that has existed forever.

Science has no theory to explain this juicy tidbit.

 

[Lookingglassman]

I knew I was right. In an earlier thread when this thing landed on Mars I wrote that the public wouldnt know about anything significant found and it is obvious I was right. No matter how many billions of dollars are spent exploring the cosmos, if something is seen or photographed that could prove the existence of UFOs or life we will never know about it.

 

[scotthm]

I knew I was right.... No matter how many billions of dollars are spent exploring the cosmos, if something is seen or photographed that could prove the existence of UFOs or life we will never know about it.

Then I guess we're pretty foolish for wasting all that money.

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[bryce]

God is infinite. Mary is the Mother of God.

Mary is the mother of Jesus, the one and only begotten son of God. Mary is a human, and thus, a creation of God himself, so how can God create his own creator?

Godfather paradox.

Perhaps an accident involving a time machine and a failed prophylactic.

 

[Squiggy]

I knew I was right. In an earlier thread when this thing landed on Mars I wrote that the public wouldnt know about anything significant found and it is obvious I was right. No matter how many billions of dollars are spent exploring the cosmos, if something is seen or photographed that could prove the existence of UFOs or life we will never know about it.

This proves nothing. We found water ice on Mars, no life.

 

[tharpdevenport]

What NASA considers "major" and what the rest of us do aren't always the same thing.

I'm tending to think this may be the case.

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"Mr. President!"
"What?"
"MR. PRESIDENT!!!"
"What, friggin what?!"
"You'll never guess what we found!"
"More polar ice?"
"No, better."
"More dead microbes?"
"Methane gas."
"Get out of my oval office. And stop hiding methan gas from the public."

 

[Gepard]

OK.. so...

We've learned right here in this thread that:

God is infinite.
Time is infinite.

We already know that time is money.

Therefore, God=time=money?

That explains Televangelists.

 

[Irvy]

What if they found the tablets of the 10 commandments, signed by God, sitting out waiting for us to find? Imagine the panic. If God's existence could be proved, it would cause as much pandemonium as finding out that there's aliens on the moon watching our development. Which some believe to be true.