Another tie to Forbidden Planet?

[RyanKCR]

I know that it's been said that Gene Roddenberry may have gotten a lot of his ideas for Star Trek from Forbidden planet. The three main characters from the ship were the captain, the first officer and the doctor and few other things here and there.

I also know that Matt Jefferies Said he choose NCC-1701 because it would be easy to see. But I was watching Forbidden Planet last night and when the ship entered orbit of the planet in the begging on the movie it was noted that they did so at 17:01.

Coincidence?

 

[Dale]

I don't know how anyone can watch Forbidden Planet and not see it as the kernel that led directly to Star Trek. The case can be made that Roddenberry flat-out ripped it off. It's like trying to say that Stalag 17 had nothing to do with Hogan's Heroes (speaking of colonels).

 

[Rÿcher]

no, the registry came from a small aircraft with the registry NC 170 (or something like that) and to seperate it from the aircraft numbers, he added another C and made the number four digits.

 

[Sector 7]

I think Forbidden Planet was the first serious science fiction of its time. Naturally it inspired others like Roddenberry, just as Star Trek inspired those who came later.

 

[RyanKCR]

no, the registry came from a small aircraft with the registry NC 170 (or something like that) and to seperate it from the aircraft numbers, he added another C and made the number four digits.

I know, I know......... I just found it very interesting.... It was just so exact. 17:01.. If anything it's funny.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I know that it's been said that Gene Roddenberry may have gotten a lot of his ideas for Star Trek from Forbidden planet.

The set design of the underground lab in "What are Little Girls Made Of?" was a deliberate homage to FB. (Perhap's Ruk's "Old Ones" were the Krell.)

 

[trevanian]

I don't know how anyone can watch Forbidden Planet and not see it as the kernel that led directly to Star Trek. The case can be made that Roddenberry flat-out ripped it off. It's like trying to say that Stalag 17 had nothing to do with Hogan's Heroes (speaking of colonels).

Well it was kind of the thing to do ... there's a well-researched unauthorized book about LOST IN SPACE that makes it pretty damn clear that Allen lifted the whole thing (except Dr Smith) from novelist/filmmaker Ib Melchior's SPACE FAMILY ROBINSON premise.

EDIT ADDON:

For more TREK/FP fun, try to find David Gerrold's story THE KENNEDY ENTERPRISE, an alternate universe story. In it, Joe Kennedy takes his family west after the bootlegging days, and JFK becames a Reagenesque film star (second tier), while RFK runs MGM, producing FORBIDDEN PLANET. Years later, to cash in on the uniforms, he buys GR's TREK notion. It goes like it does in our universe for the first couple seasons, but then Bobby fired Shat and Nimoy for all their bitching, and brings in JFK to play the new Captain.

Tragedies ensue, but I won't spoil them for you (Ellison and Fontana are characters in it as well.)

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The visual design of "Star Trek" comes from many places and a group of people who were immensely talented and innovated a great deal to make the series possible within television limits. There's not nearly the visual influence on Trek from "Forbidden Planet" that there was on - for instance - "Lost In Space."

In terms of concept and written content - yup, the Bird pretty much filed the serial numbers off of FP. David Gerrold wrote an amusing "alternate history" parody some years ago - "The Kennedy Enterprise," I believe it was called - that made explicit fun of that.

 

[drasche]

I'm watching Forbidden Planet right now, Roddenberry also ripped the reversing polarity bit

Attention! Captain to crew, stand by to reverse polarity.

(that's when they are preparing to enter the atmosphere)

 

[Therin of Andor]

For more TREK/FP fun, try to find David Gerrold's story THE KENNEDY ENTERPRISE, an alternate universe story.

The recent "Alternative Gerrolds" anthology:
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/003369.html

Had mine for a while, but haven't read it yet.

 

[trevanian]

For more TREK/FP fun, try to find David Gerrold's story THE KENNEDY ENTERPRISE, an alternate universe story.

The recent "Alternative Gerrolds" anthology:
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/003369.html

Had mine for a while, but haven't read it yet.

I read it in a decent collection called ALTERNATE KENNEDYS several years back, but I don't have that anymore. This one you cite sounds worth picking up.