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Title font for WRATH OF KHAN?

gastrof

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Does anyone know the name of the font used in the onscreen title of STAR TREK II?

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I have a Trek font package that calls it the Trek classic movie font. I believe this is the one I'm using (if memory serves). Note that the names on the website don't match the actual font names.

http://www.startreksite.com/fonts/

I don't think you looked at the sample I have above.

That's not the font used in all the other Kirk era films.

The website you sent me to lists four different "Motion Picture" fonts, two of which are for TNG.

The other two...

One of them is the same font used in most of the Kirk era films, and the other seems to actually have nothing to do with the movies, but rather is the font used on STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE.

Look at the sample again, seriously.

Does that look like the usual Trek TOS movie font to you?

If there's something I missed on the webpage, please point it out to me. :(
 
I have a Trek font package that calls it the Trek classic movie font. I believe this is the one I'm using (if memory serves). Note that the names on the website don't match the actual font names.

http://www.startreksite.com/fonts/

I don't think you looked at the sample I have above.

That's not the font used in all the other Kirk era films.

The website you sent me to lists four different "Motion Picture" fonts, two of which are for TNG.

The other two...

One of them is the same font used in most of the Kirk era films, and the other seems to actually have nothing to do with the movies, but rather is the font used on STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE.

Look at the sample again, seriously.

Does that look like the usual Trek TOS movie font to you?

If there's something I missed on the webpage, please point it out to me. :(

I believe I mentioned that the names of the fonts on the website don't match the actual font names when you download them (plus the samples they show you are all the same so ignore them). Just download the fonts, install them, and then take a look. You'll have lots. If you don't like them, remove them.
 
There are samples given on the webpage, available by clicking. I saw nothing matching the WoK lettering.

As I said, if I've missed the font you meant, please tell me which one it is.
 
There are samples given on the webpage, available by clicking. I saw nothing matching the WoK lettering.

As I said, if I've missed the font you meant, please tell me which one it is.

The samples are not accurate. Download the font package at the bottom of the page. Unzip it. Install the fonts through Control Panel - Fonts (assuming you are using Windows). The font will be Federation Classic Movie when selecting from whatever program you are using.
 
There are samples given on the webpage, available by clicking. I saw nothing matching the WoK lettering.

As I said, if I've missed the font you meant, please tell me which one it is.

The samples are not accurate. Download the font package at the bottom of the page. Unzip it. Install the fonts through Control Panel - Fonts (assuming you are using Windows). The font will be Federation Classic Movie when selecting from whatever program you are using.

The "Federation Classic Movie" font was not used for the opening titles of TWOK.
 
I made this poster with the font downloaded above (the blue lettering). Looks close enough for me.
Carpe, the font used on-screen isn't the same as the font used on the poster. That's the OP's point, and the reason for his question.

I have a bit of a font problem, myself, but I don't know what the font used on-screen in Star Trek II was. I'll do some digging when I get home.
 
I'm not saying the font on the movie poster is the right one. I'm saying the blue font on my image is pretty close to the example given at the top of the thread.
 
I'm not saying the font on the movie poster is the right one. I'm saying the blue font on my image is pretty close to the example given at the top of the thread.

Sorry, but no it isn't. Few of the letters have any resemblance.

And it's KHAN'S, not KHANS...unless there is more than one Khan.
 
I'm not saying the font on the movie poster is the right one. I'm saying the blue font on my image is pretty close to the example given at the top of the thread.

Apart from the facts that both are blue and resemble latin glyphs there is no resemblance in the two fonts.
 
I'm not saying the font on the movie poster is the right one. I'm saying the blue font on my image is pretty close to the example given at the top of the thread.

Sorry, but no it isn't. Few of the letters have any resemblance.

And it's KHAN'S, not KHANS...unless there is more than one Khan.

I'm not saying the font on the movie poster is the right one. I'm saying the blue font on my image is pretty close to the example given at the top of the thread.

Apart from the facts that both are blue and resemble latin glyphs there is no resemblance in the two fonts.

Helvetica. Definitely Helvetica. :p

You're crazy. It's very similar, and probably as close as he will get.

Yes, I know it's Khan's, but it look's funky on the poster (just for you though I changed it).

Helvetica is not even close.
 
It is indeed a very unique font that I cannot remember to have seen anywhere else.
It looks like someone has taken the Microgramma (or: Eurostyle) bold extended (i.e. Franz Joseph's "official" Star Fleet) font and changed it slightly by bringing in style elements from the Star Trek movie font. Maybe the font was never fully designed but limited to the letters needed for opening titles and thus given neither a name nor the chance to show up elsewhere. This - however - seems like a rather unnecessary way to spend money on a project that had quite a low budget.
So it was probably around at the time, someone noticed the "crossover"-character (pun intended) and used in TWOK, and afterwards it just got out of sight due to the sheer number of new fonts that get created each year.
 
I'm not saying the font on the movie poster is the right one. I'm saying the blue font on my image is pretty close to the example given at the top of the thread.

Sorry, but no it isn't. Few of the letters have any resemblance.

And it's KHAN'S, not KHANS...unless there is more than one Khan.

Apart from the facts that both are blue and resemble latin glyphs there is no resemblance in the two fonts.

Helvetica. Definitely Helvetica. :p

You're crazy. It's very similar, and probably as close as he will get.

Yes, I know it's Khan's, but it look's funky on the poster (just for you though I changed it).

Helvetica is not even close.

No. That font you suggested is not even close. Compare the R's, E's and K's. See how your font it mainly elliptical while the OP's sample from TWOK is blocked?

It is also entirely possible that a standard typeface wasn't used for TWOK's opening titles, it could have been a one-off.

Oh, and it's obvious that FalTorPan was joking about it being Helvetica. Lighten up, dude.
 
It is indeed a very unique font that I cannot remember to have seen anywhere else.

I've also looked for it in vain.

TWOK is the only Trek film to use this typography. As noted by many other posters here it has almost no resemblance to the title fonts used by the other films and TV series, or to the examples that Carpe Occasio is citing.
 
Sorry, but no it isn't. Few of the letters have any resemblance.

And it's KHAN'S, not KHANS...unless there is more than one Khan.



Helvetica. Definitely Helvetica. :p

You're crazy. It's very similar, and probably as close as he will get.

Yes, I know it's Khan's, but it look's funky on the poster (just for you though I changed it).

Helvetica is not even close.

No. That font you suggested is not even close. Compare the R's, E's and K's. See how your font it mainly elliptical while the OP's sample from TWOK is blocked?

It is also entirely possible that a standard typeface wasn't used for TWOK's opening titles, it could have been a one-off.

Oh, and it's obvious that FalTorPan was joking about it being Helvetica. Lighten up, dude.

It is indeed a very unique font that I cannot remember to have seen anywhere else.

I've also looked for it in vain.

TWOK is the only Trek film to use this typography. As noted by many other posters here it has almost no resemblance to the title fonts used by the other films and TV series, or to the examples that Carpe Occasio is citing.

I still say the font I suggested is a suitable substitute, close enough to be usable (especially since the actual font is apparently unavailable). It's better the Helvetica.
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I still say the font I suggested is a suitable substitute, close enough to be usable (especially since the actual font is apparently unavailable). It's better the Helvetica.

It's not close enough to be usable. It doesn't resemble the TWOK at all.

Actually Microgramma would be a lot closer to the TWOK title font than any of the other "Star Trek" movie fonts.
 
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