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Official Terminator Season Two Spoiler Thread

nx1701g

nx1701g

Admiral
Admiral
Since I put one up for Smallville I'm afraid I neglected one for my other show Terminator. But, to be fair, this season has been pretty closely guarded so far.

Starting with an interview by BAG about Season Two.

Other spoilers:

  • Cameron will reboot with her default programming in season one (to kill John Connor)
  • Two new cast members are joining the show. One is a business executive named Catherine (played by Garbage's Shirley Manson) and the other is a love interest for John named Becky.
  • The upcoming season will focus on preventing judgment day.
  • The second episode will involve a military academy.
  • Agent Ellison has become a firm believer in Sarah's cause and is trying to find his part in it.
 
I don't like the idea of Cameron turning bad. If it's simply a matter of her rebooting, why didn't she turn bad when she was shocked by the safe? And if it's that easy for her to turn bad, once the Connors stop her, they should eliminate her to prevent any future trouble. It just seems contrived and stupid.
 
Ryan8bit said:
I don't like the idea of Cameron turning bad. If it's simply a matter of her rebooting, why didn't she turn bad when she was shocked by the safe? And if it's that easy for her to turn bad, once the Connors stop her, they should eliminate her to prevent any future trouble. It just seems contrived and stupid.
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Agreed. Sounds like an uninspired crappy plotline to me.
 
Maybe they will have to giver her a chip containing her later memories and that is the way they stop her.
 
The show show is predictable crap in the way of storylines, however it's somehow still a fun show.

I like this part...

The upcoming season will focus on preventing judgment day.

Wow! That's every season until it happens, it's the who point of the show and movies! :)
 
I'm going to have to actually watch this show...have seen a few episodes including the premire and the finale but barely any of the middle ones. Liked what I saw and am glad its coming back for a second season.
 
According to what I've read the Sarah Conner Chronicles are totally seperate from Terminator 3 and Salvation...
 
^ Partially true. They're back to saying "There will be a connection" and that's it. Rumor has it (it was posted on TerminatorFiles recently) that Summer Glau was seen on the set of Terminator Salvation.
 
Some new stuff from TVGuide

In short:

- Fox insisted on the introduction of a love interest for John.

- Cameron's emotional understanding from the pilot was a pseudo script that the terminator had been programmed with for her first meeting with John.

- Season two is about Evolution.
 
I know there's no way of knowing, but, I've wondered if delaying the inevitable (from one POV;TSCC seems to revert to it being hard to prevent but still possible) dilutes or worsens Judgement Day? Does Skynet merely get to go online as a higher-tech threat, or are more Humans aware and/or just plain ready for a disaster of that proportions? In a sad way, people after 2001 would be a lot more ready for a sudden strike than people in the 'total ambush' of the original 1997 attack. Skynet as software may be able to launch every connected programmable nuke, but it does not automatically control subs and planes. In the original scenario (as I understand it), it launched an attack on one side and waited for the response-scenario to pare humanity down to the nubs. But in T3 and in implied scenarios glimpsed in TSCC, it has 'only' those nukes that a computer wholly controls. Still a hellacious thing, but perhaps a more survivable apocalypse than simply letting both sides have at each other. To quote the great Jean-Luc, has Skynet's tampering with its own past perhaps resulted in the slow unraveling of its tapestry?
Could the ultimate solution to J-Day be taking it from the end of days down to 'just' a very nasty terrorist strike or its equivalent?
 
^ Actually it depends on the storyline. There are a few comic books that discuss this very idea (the change in the date of judgment day). Here's a roundabout idea of a few of them.

1.) In one timeline Judgment Day is relatively early in the computer age and Skynet isn't able to build up a suitable war machine to do much damage. The death and destruction isn't as wide spread and the Resistance is led by General Jane Connor. John was born a girl.

2.) In another timeline Judgment Day was significantly delayed and Skynet was able to prolong the war into at least the 2060s.

3.) In the timeline where John Connor was killed before JD the tech levels had increased so highly that Skynet won and was in the process of terraforming the earth so that no biological life would exist there again. They were preparing to launch ships that would proceed to other planets to conquer. Think the Borg.
 
Admiral_Young said:
I'm going to have to actually watch this show...have seen a few episodes including the premire and the finale but barely any of the middle ones. Liked what I saw and am glad its coming back for a second season.
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There are only nine episodes so you most likely have seen most of them. :)

And the show ties into the third movie a little bit with the mention of the cancer, and that's why they jumped into the future in the pilot.
 
Thanks. My only problem is, that does seem to be that whatever happens, whatever changes, it almost always breaks to Skynet's supreme advantage. Heroes must face a challenge, even a supreme, nigh-impossible challenge, in order to have their adventures be worth following. My problem comes when their chances are reduced to such utterly ridiculous levels, their defeat seems inevitable rather than 'a bold twist' or their victory seems like 'Huh?' - in that the arrayed forces against them should logically not have gone down. IMO, the X-books made that mistake with Apocalypse for a while. If Skynet can simply never go down and JD only made worse and wider, it gets harder and harder to care.

Yes, I will be watching. :D
 
BenRoethig said:
Meredith said:
Maybe they will have to giver her a chip containing her later memories and that is the way they stop her.
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Or she makes a choice to override her own programming.
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I'm not certain if that's possible. In T3 the T-850 was able to override its programming because it wasn't him in the 'driver's seat' so to speak. He was being remotely controlled by the T-X and was able to retake control of his systems long enough to deactivate and reboot. I'm not certain if Cameron would be able to do such a reboot.
 
Gojirob said:
Thanks. My only problem is, that does seem to be that whatever happens, whatever changes, it almost always breaks to Skynet's supreme advantage.
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Exactly. Even though Judgment Day is delayed it only will get worse because Skynet will have new technologies to fall back on. In the original continuities - for example - Skynet had a central core in Cheyenne Mountain and a backup center in LA. As of T3 it was on the internet and not in a central location. All of this serves to make Skynet a more deadly threat because it's getting harder and harder to kill.

One of the more interesting storylines had Skynet truly incapable of being defeated because its processors were moved to an orbital satellite.
 
In one of the first issues of Tom Strong, he was fighting a silicone life form which was just about indefeasible and replicating to the point it would soon make humanity struggle to breath goodness for bid live.

He gave them Mars.

If we can't live together, there are options other than killing one another.
 
nx1701g said:
BenRoethig said:
Meredith said:
Maybe they will have to giver her a chip containing her later memories and that is the way they stop her.
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Or she makes a choice to override her own programming.
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I'm not certain if that's possible. In T3 the T-850 was able to override its programming because it wasn't him in the 'driver's seat' so to speak. He was being remotely controlled by the T-X and was able to retake control of his systems long enough to deactivate and reboot. I'm not certain if Cameron would be able to do such a reboot.
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It wouldn't be possible as she is programmed. Then again, skynet wasn't programmed to wipe out the human race. It went above its programming and started making decisions for itself.
 
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