Actually find I'm fancying her more and more...to be fair she usually ruins it by talking! She has a fantastic arse though (sorry to go off topic!)
Doctor Who – 4x13 – Journey’s End (Grade/Discuss)
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Actually find I'm fancying her more and more...to be fair she usually ruins it by talking! She has a fantastic arse though (sorry to go off topic!)
That's it in a nutshell. Basically, I still felt entertained so I couldn't give it below average despite serious problems. But, due to the serious problems I couldn't rate it much higher than average. I still had fun watching it though!
And, I definitely agree about changing the rating system.
Mr Awe
I always thought it should go something like:
Fantastic
Good
Above Average
Average
Below Average
Poor
Fear Her (er I mean terrible!)
I'd give Journey's End a good, but for me The Stolen Earth was a fantastic!
I gave Stolen Earth an Above average. And, I agree it was better than Journey's End. But, with the limitations of the rating system, they both ended up with the same grade.
Fear Her has to be the abosolute bottom of any rating scale!!
And, about Gwen, she doesn't do anything for me. I like her character but nothing beyond that!
Mr Awe
The idea that a TARDIS would take six people to pilot properly goes all the way back to the original design for the 2005 series, in which the set designer surmised just that (or something for a minimum crew of three in usual situations, each managing two sides fo the pedestal). Why not have six consoles facing inwards, but to have six people each with a different function? If it were just one, I'd rather have one console (and a chair) to manage everything than be forced to run around a column all the time.
In the original series, we only ever saw TARDISes with one operator, namely for the Master, the Rani, and the Meddling Monk. All the other Time Lords seemed to dispense with a TARDIS entirely, timply popping in wherever and whenever they needed to do it. The most "modern" TARDIS we saw was arguably the Rani's, which had a round console; we could infer that as TARDIS design advanced from the days of the Doctor's type 40 (and whatever the Master and Monk were driving) that fewer crew were required for optimum operation, to the point that not many Time Lords even used TARDISes anymore when they bothered to leave Gallifrey.
This only leaves the "Rassilon Impermature", or the symbiotic link a Time Lord shares with his TARDIS. Under normal conditions, would a type 40 be linked with six Gallifreyans, or just the commander? It's impossible to know, but we do know that operating it with just one is okay.
Mark
In the original series, we only ever saw TARDISes with one operator, namely for the Master, the Rani, and the Meddling Monk. All the other Time Lords seemed to dispense with a TARDIS entirely, timply popping in wherever and whenever they needed to do it. The most "modern" TARDIS we saw was arguably the Rani's, which had a round console; we could infer that as TARDIS design advanced from the days of the Doctor's type 40 (and whatever the Master and Monk were driving) that fewer crew were required for optimum operation, to the point that not many Time Lords even used TARDISes anymore when they bothered to leave Gallifrey.
This only leaves the "Rassilon Impermature", or the symbiotic link a Time Lord shares with his TARDIS. Under normal conditions, would a type 40 be linked with six Gallifreyans, or just the commander? It's impossible to know, but we do know that operating it with just one is okay.
Mark
That's it in a nutshell. Basically, I still felt entertained so I couldn't give it below average despite serious problems. But, due to the serious problems I couldn't rate it much higher than average. I still had fun watching it though!
And, I definitely agree about changing the rating system.
Mr Awe
I always thought it should go something like:
Fantastic
Good
Above Average
Average
Below Average
Poor
Fear Her (er I mean terrible!
I'd give Journey's End a good, but for me The Stolen Earth was a fantastic!
I gave Stolen Earth an Above average. And, I agree it was better than Journey's End. But, with the limitations of the rating system, they both ended up with the same grade.
Fear Her has to be the abosolute bottom of any rating scale!!
Well, it's the same ratings system we've been using since series 1, but fair enough, if y'all want more options, then I'll start adding them to the next thread at Christmas. Although, 'Good' doesn't strike me as being a higher rating than 'Above Average'. Maybe if we went with...
Fantastic!
Great
Good
Not Bad
I've Seen Better
Poor
Terrible
...or something along those lines? What's the general consensus?
I guess you guys missed my post about my system. 
Excellent
Very Good
Good
Mediocre
Terrible
That's the rating system I use for shows, although I'm still not quite satisfied with Very Good. I want a term that sits in the middle between Excellent and Good, and Very Good is the best I can ever come up with.
Excellent
Very Good
Good
Mediocre
Terrible
That's the rating system I use for shows, although I'm still not quite satisfied with Very Good. I want a term that sits in the middle between Excellent and Good, and Very Good is the best I can ever come up with.
I guess you guys missed my post about my system.
Excellent
Very Good
Good
Mediocre
Terrible
That's the rating system I use for shows, although I'm still not quite satisfied with Very Good. I want a term that sits in the middle between Excellent and Good, and Very Good is the best I can ever come up with.
I like it, same amount of choices, but better definition of what you're voting for.
Obviously substitue Fantastic for Excellent, but I suppose you're right, that has the same problem on the low end, that the current one has on the top end.
I like EMH's new grading system. That's really the thing that I had difficulty with for this episode. My biggest feeling after watching it was yes it was good, but it was a little disappointing. Does that fall under the above average or average levels. I mean it had a lot of great scenes (And one thing I mentioned about quiet moments, this episode provided my favorite two scenes which were the Doctor and the family, and then the Doctor and Wilf to end it, which were both quiet scenes) and it was a satisfying conclusion, but there were a few things that made it disappointing. How does that fit this grading system and was I being too nice. It really could have gone either way between Above Average or Average but with a new grading system, I know exactly which one I would have picked.
I don't know. I often find Poor to be synonymous with Terrible (and you're right about Fantastic, I forgot that's what we use here
). However, I don't think that gap between Mediocre and Terrible is all that big. *shrug*
Is Brillient and Fantastic the same thing? I ask because that's one of the things I love about the Tenth Doctor. To him everything is brillient and the way he says it is funny, especially in Time Crash.
Brilliant, fantastic, and excellent are all the same to me.
I am not someone to be easily impressed by spectacle, if you'll stop assigning reasons to me for why I might have liked it, I could give you some of the reasons why I did.
Works for me, not a ton of choices like those A+, A, A-, B+, etc. polls, but enough definition between what's good and what's bad. Only problem there is, there's no vote for OK.
I don't know. I often find Poor to be synonymous with Terrible (and you're right about Fantastic, I forgot that's what we use here
I suppose it's a matter of perspective/opinion. I didn't think the gap between Fantastic and Above Average was all that big either...
I think the 7 options works well. We have one option each at the top and bottom for the very best and the very worst episodes, plust five options inbetween for everything else.
I don't know. I often find Poor to be synonymous with Terrible (and you're right about Fantastic, I forgot that's what we use here
I don't know, mediocre to me is kinda disappointing, or indifferent, terrible is "I couldn't make it through." so poor fills the gap between the two nicely. Great, and Fantastic seem to be close to synonymous though.
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But the population would have frozen to death in deep space with no sun to warm the planet. Space is COLD, absolute zero COLD. That is my gripe with that scene, not necessarily the TARDIS towing the planet bit.