I don't know... have you got something in more of a mauve?
Fans Want To See TNG Cast One More Time
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I don't see TNG flying. Just me, but I just don't see them as the same sort of icons that the TOS cast were. Ask 20 non-trekkies who Kirk is, and they could tell you. Ask 20 non-trekkies about Jean Luc Picard or William Riker, and either they'll be soccer players or tour de france riders. Maybe Riker would be mistaken for a congressman of some sort -- but few people outside of fandom know or care who they are. So if you put them on the screen probably a third of the audience would wonder what the hell happened to Kirk.
I'd rather use the saleable concept and build from there. And for the next series -- gotta love on the Excelsior. It's at least connected to the familiar. But you'd better get great writers.
I'd rather use the saleable concept and build from there. And for the next series -- gotta love on the Excelsior. It's at least connected to the familiar. But you'd better get great writers.
I tend to agree. But let's not forget TNG was wildly popular in its day, with as many as 10 million viewers per episode. The thing is, it played out after seven seasons on the air. The movies, even FC to an extent, were anti-climactic, and GEN did nothing to bring the casual TNG TV viewer into the movie theaters.
By contrast, the whole birth of the Trek franchise came with the premature death of TOS on TV (as early as after season two if you are a "terd" season person). By the time it caught on in syndication and TMP was made, Shatner and Nimoy were already in their late-40s. The movies even dealt with their aging. We didn't exactly get to see a lot of them in their primes. I think that's why there could also be some nostalgia for that period. Stack up 79 episodes of Captain Kirk in his prime versus 178 of Captain Jean Luc Picard in his, and it's easier to see which concept may have been played out. TNG, I'd say.
I didn't let it pass me by; I wasn't a fan when it was released. I only got into Trek recently, and since then, I've seen a lot of it, including all the movies besides FC and Nemesis. I do want to see it, though.
Exactly. TOS was in syndication for more years than it was in production, and there was such a hunger for new ST that TMP was highly anticipated. The four TNG movies required fans to pay for their new 24th century ST experiences when all-new DS9 and VOY episodes were airing for free on a weekly basis.
In retrospect, an animated TNG spin-off for TV might have been a more sensible "bring in the young ones" tactic instead of "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" because, by then, ST had slipped right off the prime time radar, with DS9 playing out very late at night, and VOY only on a new network that didn't even get coverage across the USA.
What really seems to have been missing from the ST fanbase in recent years are the kids and young families, who used to watch TOS reruns and new TNG together. And buy lots of ST toys, candy, "young adult" novels and comics.
If this happens, I'll lose my interest in Star Trek. I don't want a "reboot", or Star Trek:90210. After Voyager ended, I was hoping for a show set in the 25th century or further. Granted, this movie that Abrams is putting out is tempting, and do-able, since the main characters resemble the originals more then I originally thought they would. But Star Trek is about space travel, not school days.
We didn't see too much of Nog at the Academy.
Star Trek in its two heydays always had a large youth audience. That was due to accessibility (ie. TOS reruns during early prime time, stripped five nights per week), and young characters (ie. TNG with - like him or love him - Wesley Crusher, who supposedly got more fan mail than any other character. I'm sure that's why DS9 made sure it had Molly, Jake and Nog on board, and why VOY quickly gave Naomi Wildman an age boost. It's probably also why ENT had Porthos, and why the original BSG had Boxey and then Dr Zee.
It's tricky to find a conceit to attract that youth audience with a character they can relate to. Once they find the series, they tend to stick with it.
And it worked, to an extent. Walter Koenig - in his Davy Jones hair - was a big heartthrob feature of magazines like "15", "Tiger Beat" and "All About Star Trek Fan Clubs".
It sounds to me that Brton is simply feeling sentimental in his old age, nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean there MUST be a new TNG Movie (although I wouldn't mind one).
And I still say that Nemesis is not as bad as everybody made it out to be. It washed away the bad taste Insurrection left in my mouth. What I think really killed Nemesis was that everybody hated Enterprise so much (justafiably) that that hatred spilled over onto Nemesis.
And I still say that Nemesis is not as bad as everybody made it out to be. It washed away the bad taste Insurrection left in my mouth. What I think really killed Nemesis was that everybody hated Enterprise so much (justafiably) that that hatred spilled over onto Nemesis.
And why Batman was paired up with Robin: as I understand it, the comic was foundering until TPTB added The Boy Wonder.
All good points, but I never heard that about Dorn and the makeup glue! If I'm right didn't Spiner's makeup initially cause an allergic reaction as well?
Ask Weyoun. He seems to prefer blue...
We've had several actors who've played Klingons visit Australian conventions and each one has said, re the possibility of them doing long runs in TV shows wearing latex, "You should see Michael Dorn's temples. That glue has permanently affected his skin."
Keep in mind, he was in that makeup for seven seasons of TNG, four seasons of DS9 and five movies.
Oh believe me, once you said that I quickly understood why. He's certainly has one of, if not THE, longest tenures in all of Trek (aside from Majel). That's sad to hear, though I suppose it's a bit of a price to pay for such a regular paying gig.
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