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Chris Noth leaving L&O: CI. :(

It doesn't matter how many episodes he appeared in during the brief run of Raines. He is still a character created by someone who did not create Law & Order. Munch is a different scenario. He was created by Dick Wolf as well, so he didn't exactly have to pay royalties to himself. Single crossovers are not that expensive, but imagine having to pay royalties for every episode the character appeared in. It's the reason Nick Locarno changed to Tom Paris on Voyager, and why T'Pol is not T'Pau.


This is totally devil's advocate land but they already pay to use Munch on SVU, don't they?
 
Makes you wonder ... did DS9 have to pay Voyager to use the Emh and Dr. Zimmerman? Or did TNG have to pay to use Bashir? How does that work when its an in-house crossover? Did Joss get paid every time Willow or Buffy showed up on Angel?
 
Makes you wonder ... did DS9 have to pay Voyager to use the Emh and Dr. Zimmerman? Or did TNG have to pay to use Bashir? How does that work when its an in-house crossover? Did Joss get paid every time Willow or Buffy showed up on Angel?

It goes by creator, not by show, I think. Rick Berman & Michael Piller created Bashir, and they were producing TNG, so he was already their character to do with as they pleased. But the EMH and Zimmerman were created by Berman, Piller, and Jeri Taylor, and of those, only Berman was actively working on DS9 when those characters appeared, so Piller and Taylor would've gotten royalties, I believe. As for Whedon, again, the characters were already his, so I don't think anybody would've gotten an extra payment.

A better example is the Stargate franchise. In Stargate Atlantis, we've never seen Jack O'Neill and/or Daniel Jackson guest star in the same episode with Samantha Carter and/or Teal'c. That's because O'Neill and Jackson were created by Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich for the original movie, while Carter and Teal'c were created by Jonathan Glassner and Brad Wright for Stargate SG-1. So having them all (or one from column A and one from column B) would require paying royalties to three different people (I'm not counting Wright since he's a co-creator of Atlantis). But keeping the two groups separate means they don't have to pay as many extra royalties for a single episode. At least, that's my understanding.

I guess there are some extra royalties being paid for having Munch as a regular on SVU. But CI is being produced by a cable network now and probably doesn't have as big a budget, so I doubt they'd pony up for having Goldblum play the Raines character. Especially since that show flopped and the character would be poorly remembered.
 
Munch was created by Tom Fontana (on Homicide: Life on the Street), not Dick Wolf. Although, AFAIK, those two are friends - Wolf even named Joe Fontana (Dennis Farina's L&O character) after him - so that may have been a factor in Munch's transfer. Then again, not all of the shows that Munch appeared in were like that.

As for the number of episodes: If that is a factor, then using Raines on L&O wouldn't be that hard - as I said, Raines only lasted for seven episodes. I'm sure they could work something out.
 
Probably. I'd like to see Alicia Witt come back though.
You're probably the only one. I much rather have Wheeler stick around forever.

I wonder if Goldblum is actually playing Raines here? (That show *was* on NBC, after all.)
I doubt that considering the supernatural implications. Yeah, he could be just losing his mind, but even the mere suggestion is too much for Law & Order
Logan did basically the same thing in one CI episode. After this woman he was seeing (who lived in his apartment building) killed herself, there's a scene where he imagines he's talking to her.
I had forgotten about that episode. But my point still stands. I sincerely doubt that Wolf would down that route.
 
Munch was created by Tom Fontana (on Homicide: Life on the Street), not Dick Wolf. Although, AFAIK, those two are friends - Wolf even named Joe Fontana (Dennis Farina's L&O character) after him - so that may have been a factor in Munch's transfer. Then again, not all of the shows that Munch appeared in were like that.

As for the number of episodes: If that is a factor, then using Raines on L&O wouldn't be that hard - as I said, Raines only lasted for seven episodes. I'm sure they could work something out.
It doesn't matter how many episodes Raines lasted. It matters on how many episodes of Law and Order that Raines appears in.
 
It's sad to see him go, but I have to admit that I'm not too surprised by this. Didn't USA recently slash the CI budget?
 
Yeah it's always sad to see a detective go. I was a Noth fan ever since his days with the original show. Though to e honest, he hasn't been nearly as much fun since they've made him the 'responsible' one.

Don't think I've ever seen Goldblum play anything besides the nerdy science type. So this should be interesting.
 
It's sad to see him go, but I have to admit that I'm not too surprised by this. Didn't USA recently slash the CI budget?
I don't know that they slashed the per-episode budget, but Season 8 will only be 16 episodes in length, versus the usual 22 episodes.
 
It's sad to see him go, but I have to admit that I'm not too surprised by this. Didn't USA recently slash the CI budget?
I don't know that they slashed the per-episode budget, but Season 8 will only be 16 episodes in length, versus the usual 22 episodes.
I answered my own question about the budget when I read the Yahoo news story. Goldblum is taking in $250,000 per episode he's in.
 
I wonder if Noth's movie career is actually starting to take off. He was making really good money per episode for CI.

There were rumors of a Logan TV movie franchise after Exiled that never materialized. I wonder if he'd consider doing that now.
 
I wonder if Noth's movie career is actually starting to take off. He was making really good money per episode for CI.

There were rumors of a Logan TV movie franchise after Exiled that never materialized. I wonder if he'd consider doing that now.

There was a quote from Noth up on IMDB during the week where he says there's no chance of an L&O movie franchise especially with it being on 3 nights a week.
 
Also: Did anyone catch the "In Plain Sight" one? And that's from a series that's *still going on*.

Yeah, that was because USA is trying to cross-promote as much as possible and drum up viewership for In Plain Sight. At this rate, I'm expecting Mary McCormack to wind up taking a chairshot on WWE Raw or something.
 
Cripes! I hope that Goren and Goldblums character never get to share a scene.It would be "nervous tic-a-rama.":guffaw:
 
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