Iron Man made $723,320 on Wednesday and crossed the $300 million mark. I thought it would happen with Thursday's take, but the good Wednesday number pushed it over a day earlier. It's now at $300,042,790 domestic.
First movie of 2008 to reach $300M or even $400M???
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Congrats to the 21 voters for Iron Man
Indy should cross it over the July 4 holiday for sure.
Is there another $300m cadidate coming down the pike?
Board favorites seem to be Wall*E, Hancock and The Dark Knight.
I don't see Wall*E doing it. Pixar hasn't had a $300m film since Finding Nemo. I do not see this movie having long term appeal that is better than Incredibles or CARS. I have a sneak screener pass coming my way for next Tuesday the 24th. I'll have a better opinion after that.
Hancock with Will Smith would be my long shot candidate because its Will Smith, superheroics and July 4th. He showed hes still got it just 6 months ago with I AM Legend and posted big numbers there so he may be on an uptick.
The Dark Knight as much as I love Batman and will be there opening day and see it 2-3 times like IM or TIH don't see it happening. No Batman movie ever has and the darkness of this movie, limiting its family appeal, while good for core fans may also be its double edged sword. I'd love to see it get there, especially over Hancock. As a point of joy I'd love if two comic properties were over that mega threshold I just don't see it.
We may have all the $300m moneymakers for summer we are going to have.
Indy should cross it over the July 4 holiday for sure.
Is there another $300m cadidate coming down the pike?
Board favorites seem to be Wall*E, Hancock and The Dark Knight.
I don't see Wall*E doing it. Pixar hasn't had a $300m film since Finding Nemo. I do not see this movie having long term appeal that is better than Incredibles or CARS. I have a sneak screener pass coming my way for next Tuesday the 24th. I'll have a better opinion after that.
Hancock with Will Smith would be my long shot candidate because its Will Smith, superheroics and July 4th. He showed hes still got it just 6 months ago with I AM Legend and posted big numbers there so he may be on an uptick.
The Dark Knight as much as I love Batman and will be there opening day and see it 2-3 times like IM or TIH don't see it happening. No Batman movie ever has and the darkness of this movie, limiting its family appeal, while good for core fans may also be its double edged sword. I'd love to see it get there, especially over Hancock. As a point of joy I'd love if two comic properties were over that mega threshold I just don't see it.
We may have all the $300m moneymakers for summer we are going to have.
Luke Lightsaber
Captain
Wall E is gonna be huge. I want to see it, and I hate most of Pixar's movies. Hancock will make 200 easily. I am Legend was huge for Smith.
Well, Batman '89 was seen as rather dark at the time, and inflation adjusted to 2008 dollars, it made over $400 million. Not that I'm expecting Dark Knight to do nearly that well, but I just thought that was worth mentioning. I can't really compare the dark-ness of Dark Knight to the other bat-movies until I've seen the movie.
Movies with dark undertones have performed well at the box office all the time. Look at Lord of the Rings. The darker Harry Potter gets, the more successful it becomes. Casino Royale recently took the character into darker, grittier, more serious heights and has become the highest-grossing James Bond film to date.
The Dark Knight has a lot going for it: a very successful first film, a posthumous performance by a famous star, and intense anticipation. I can see the film easily becoming the highest-grossing film of the year.
The Dark Knight has a lot going for it: a very successful first film, a posthumous performance by a famous star, and intense anticipation. I can see the film easily becoming the highest-grossing film of the year.
I think Iron Man and Indy IV will be it for $300 million domestic films this summer. I hope I'm wrong and that The Dark Knight also joins that club, but I think it's more likely to make $250-275 million. It'll likely be kept under $300 mil by quite few parents who'll look at Heath Ledger's Joker in the trailers and think that it's too scary for their kids.
Hancock and Wall*E should both go over $200 million, but I'm not expecting either one to go over $300 million. If either of them breaks out and manages it, though, it'll be Wall*E in my opinion.
Hancock and Wall*E should both go over $200 million, but I'm not expecting either one to go over $300 million. If either of them breaks out and manages it, though, it'll be Wall*E in my opinion.
I'd also list the villain as an asset (separate from the fact that it's a posthumous performance, which is a different issue). The Joker is widely known as Batman's archrival, and that might help a bit too.....I doubt The Scarecrow was that much of a draw in Batman Begins.
The Joker will definitely be a big draw for the teens and adults who make up the core of the audience for Nolan's Bat films, and that's one of the reasons why I think the box office will go up by quite a substantial margin from Batman Begins.
But to go over $300 million a film usually needs a strong turnout from the family audience and kids, and I think it looks too dark for that to happen.
But to go over $300 million a film usually needs a strong turnout from the family audience and kids, and I think it looks too dark for that to happen.
Luke Lightsaber
Captain
Casino Royale wasn't dark. It was was a very bright actioner. The fight scenes weren't very gritty at all. There was a LOT of humor in Casino Royale, and it had a fun storyline. It wasn't dark at all. The casinos were all brightly lit, and there were plent of fun chases, and good comedy moments. That's why it was popular.
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That's a matter of perspective, but Casino Royale portrayed Bond as a callous, cold-blooded killer. Killing deeply disturbed him. He went from being in love to being betrayed, and towards the end of the film, almost seemed devoid of any humanity that he had in the beginning.
I don't know about you, but beating a man and then drowning him, strangling another man to death after fighting him a few stories worth of stairs and being subjected to extreme physical torture seems gritty to me.
Sure, it had humor (so did Batman Begins) but it was a lot grittier and darker than let's say ... Die Another Day?
Luke Lightsaber
Captain
But was Craig's Bond really a cold blooded killer? I mean, he WAS being hunted down by evil men and women. He had every right to beat the dudes to a bloody pulp, and kill them. He had a liscence to do so. Yeah, he was hurt his love betrayed him, but he was still quipping like there was no tomorrow at the poker table.
Not at the beginning. He killed those two people because he was trying to level up in his profession. And I don't remember seeing him quip AFTER his love betrayed him and died. In fact, he was quite stoic and heartless.
Luke Lightsaber
Captain
I don't see that he was heartless. It was his job to take down Mr. White. It's not like he was going to invite Mr. White for a nice buffet. He was gonna get information out of him.
He was heartless when talking about Vesper to M, which is what I was referring to. Thus the "bitch is dead" line.
Bond is very cold and stoic in the novels. He comes up with occasional quips, but because of what happened to him in Casino Royale, he was basically broken and was powered by an inner rage. Without saying it, he took "Kill or be Killed" to heart, and he was going to ensure he was doing the former and not the latter.
Well, in the novel, Bond basically let down his guard and got close to a woman who was a double-agent for the Soviets and he didn't know it. He was hurt and he probably felt dumb for allowing himself to get attached to her.
It was cold, but that's the kind of guy he is.
Luke Lightsaber
Captain
Yeah, he did say she was a bitch, but he looked embarrased immediatly after he said that.
He didn't look embarrassed at all. He was by himself. He MEANT that.
Bond is a cold-hearted person. Vesper's betrayal made him that way in Casino Royale. In a sense it was a very tragic, very gritty portrayal of Bond -- close to the novels, but a lot darker than previous versions of Bond we've seen, especially taking Brosnan and Moore into consideration.
Bond is a cold-hearted person. Vesper's betrayal made him that way in Casino Royale. In a sense it was a very tragic, very gritty portrayal of Bond -- close to the novels, but a lot darker than previous versions of Bond we've seen, especially taking Brosnan and Moore into consideration.
Luke Lightsaber
Captain
But he doesn't seem cold hearted when he's licking some girls fingers, or making gaga eyes at his girl in the casino. I just don't see him as cold hearted. Yeah, he's good at his job, but does that make him cold hearted?
You can be cold-hearted and exhibit emotions as well. You have to be cold-hearted to ruthlessly kill people. And besides, as I have said before, he becomes cold-hearted more towards the end of the film, after he is betrayed by Vesper. That is where he really begins to show his cold-heartedness.