Will the SCE characters ever reappear?

[Trent Roman]

^ Wait.

But seriously, I didn't care for Kadohata in the first place, finding her pretty bland (though I suppose, as I did when I read Q&A, that she was meant to be an 'every[wo]man' sort of character). After Before Dishonor, that indifference has turned into contempt. Right now, I'd be quite content to hand her a space suit, throw her out the ship and tell her to walk to the nearest starbase.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Dancing Doctor]

^ Wait.

But seriously, I didn't care for Kadohata in the first place, finding her pretty bland (though I suppose, as I did when I read Q&A, that she was meant to be an 'every[wo]man' sort of character). After Before Dishonor, that indifference has turned into contempt. Right now, I'd be quite content to hand her a space suit, throw her out the ship and tell her to walk to the nearest starbase.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Pretty much what he said.

Anything I may have found interesting about her was completely negated by Before Dishonor. Considering that she supposedly was a long-term crew member from the Enterprise-D (making her, in Vale's words, a "D guy?") it makes her actions that much more contemptible and worthy of my despising.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I liked T'Lana, Kadohata and Leybenzon when they were first introduced but after Before Dishonor I'd like to see all three get airlocked Roslin style.

 

[DarKush]

JD,

I agree with the others who said that Kadohata was bland. I also didn't like her being inserted as an Enterprise-D crewperson that everyone knew, except the readers. I'm assuming that Q & A was her first appearance in Trek Lit. I might be wrong about that, but if not, it just didn't work for me.

I found her a bit annoying in both books and then her actions in Before Dishonor really didn't make sense if she had a previous association/relationship with Picard and company.

 

[Captain W Riker]

"Before Dishonor" pretty much butchered the character of Kadohata, at least for me. I liked her in "Q & A", but for someone that's supposed to have been around since the Enterprise-D, she was completely out of line and arrogant to do what she did.

I'm kind of bored of the whole distrust-of-Picard storylines. Hasn't he proved himself enough?!

 

[Steve Roby]

I also didn't like her being inserted as an Enterprise-D crewperson that everyone knew, except the readers.

There were a thousand people on the Enterprise-D, and we didn't encounter all of them during TNG's seven seasons. There'd be a lot of people like Kadohata, known to the regulars but not to us.

 

[Christopher]

Anything I may have found interesting about her was completely negated by Before Dishonor. Considering that she supposedly was a long-term crew member from the Enterprise-D (making her, in Vale's words, a "D guy?") it makes her actions that much more contemptible and worthy of my despising.

I find that surprising, considering that she was the one who was most conflicted about turning on Picard, and was the one who eventually changed sides and helped Picard and the rest do the right thing. Doesn't recognizing her mistake and trying to make amends for it count for anything?

 

[Dancing Doctor]

Anything I may have found interesting about her was completely negated by Before Dishonor. Considering that she supposedly was a long-term crew member from the Enterprise-D (making her, in Vale's words, a "D guy?") it makes her actions that much more contemptible and worthy of my despising.

I find that surprising, considering that she was the one who was most conflicted about turning on Picard, and was the one who eventually changed sides and helped Picard and the rest do the right thing. Doesn't recognizing her mistake and trying to make amends for it count for anything?

To a point I suppose.

 

[captcalhoun]

i liked Kadohata. Leybenzon was okay in Q&A but a jerk in BD, but i kinda chalk that up to extenuating circustances. T'lana should be spaced ASAP. if for no other reason than i hate her for 'stealing' the name of my lead's love interest in my SO fan-fic and being a bitch.

 

[BrotherBenny]

Anything I may have found interesting about her was completely negated by Before Dishonor. Considering that she supposedly was a long-term crew member from the Enterprise-D (making her, in Vale's words, a "D guy?") it makes her actions that much more contemptible and worthy of my despising.

I find that surprising, considering that she was the one who was most conflicted about turning on Picard, and was the one who eventually changed sides and helped Picard and the rest do the right thing. Doesn't recognizing her mistake and trying to make amends for it count for anything?

For someone who would have served with Picard for so long, she should trust him when he goes off on one of his schemes. Picard has never disobeyed a direct order unless it goes against his morals or the greater good.

 

[Christopher]

^^Yes, and ultimately she did trust him, when it counted. How many other characters have made bad choices initially but then recognized their mistakes and made up for them? Usually in fiction such characters are regarded as heroic; it's the characters who don't make amends for their misdeeds who are the bad guys.

 

[Baerbel Haddrell]

Anything I may have found interesting about her was completely negated by Before Dishonor. Considering that she supposedly was a long-term crew member from the Enterprise-D (making her, in Vale's words, a "D guy?") it makes her actions that much more contemptible and worthy of my despising.

I find that surprising, considering that she was the one who was most conflicted about turning on Picard, and was the one who eventually changed sides and helped Picard and the rest do the right thing. Doesn't recognizing her mistake and trying to make amends for it count for anything?

I don`t have the book at hand but from what I remember, she mainly started to switch sides when it became obvious that their clumsy mutiny didn`t work out. Putting aside that her motives never made sense to me anyway, it remains to be seen if Kadohata really recognized her mistake or if she just gave up and cooperated because she had no other choice. The question is, can Picard really trust this woman? Who says she won`t do something like this again?

 

[KRAD]

^ Er, her "motives" were to follow the orders given her by a superior officer.

 

[Trent Roman]

I don`t have the book at hand but from what I remember, she mainly started to switch sides when it became obvious that their clumsy mutiny didn`t work out. Putting aside that her motives never made sense to me anyway, it remains to be seen if Kadohata really recognized her mistake or if she just gave up and cooperated because she had no other choice.

Quite right; my impression of the novel was similar. Kadohata didn't realize she had made a mistake, she was outwitted by Spock and the legitimate senior staff of the Enterprise, proving herself an inept CO in short order. Her back against the wall, she had to turn to Picard and Co. to solve the crisis after betraying him, and even then she had the gall to try and negotiate preconditions for the release of the Enterprise first. No, I wouldn't trust her either; quite aside from personal issues of betrayal, a person incapable of exercizing critical judgment in crisis situations is just as dangerous as a loose cannon who never do as they are told.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[DarKush]

I also didn't like her being inserted as an Enterprise-D crewperson that everyone knew, except the readers.

There were a thousand people on the Enterprise-D, and we didn't encounter all of them during TNG's seven seasons. There'd be a lot of people like Kadohata, known to the regulars but not to us.

True, but where is the emotional investment or the sense of familiarity for the reader? For example if it had been one of the characters from "Lower Decks", or even one of the characters at the helm like Raeger (who is I know is on Titan), that had a little bit of screen time then at least I wouldn't have felt like they were shoehorning her into the series and providing a quick shortcut for backstory. And since she seemed to be so highly considered by Data I would've liked to have seen her in at least Trek Lit, like a Time To...books before she came on board for the TNGR.

 

[William Leisner]

^ Er, her "motives" were to follow the orders given her by a superior officer.

What's more, those orders from the superior were, "Get your asses back to Earth before the Borg get here!" Yes, those of us living outside Bookland know Picard, as the hero, could not have made a choice that condemned his home planet, and that going to retrieve a giant century-old flying Bugle really was the only way to save Earth. But put yourself in the place of an officer who sees Picard as a human being, and who never read Vendetta, and can you really blame her for having her doubts?

 

[Trent Roman]

Doubts, of course; even Picard and Co. had serious doubts about their course of action. They didn't choose it because it was a certain option, they chose it because it was the only option available at the time, and that's where Kadohata's judgment fails. The question posed to her was simple if unenviable: decide between what had already been demonstrated to be a futile course of action, just throwing one more starship into battle with a foe that is beyond numbers, or an extreme longshot; the first 'plan' (which was more of a panic reaction that a plan, really) is backed by certain superior officers, the second by lesser grade superior officers who also happen to be one of the smartest, most experienced person around and two more who have greater experience of the foe than just about anybody in the quadrant. It's a difficult situation, but not a difficult choice: you must always opt for something over nothing, even if the probability of that something is small, nigh minute. Or in other words, 0.01 > 0.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Christopher]

It's easy for us civilians to say that, but officers are trained to follow the chain of command, to obey orders whether they agree with them or not. Right or wrong, Picard was the one committing mutiny. It wasn't simply a decision of whose orders to follow. It was a decision between obeying lawful orders and participating in a criminal act.

 

[Dancing Doctor]

Anything I may have found interesting about her was completely negated by Before Dishonor. Considering that she supposedly was a long-term crew member from the Enterprise-D (making her, in Vale's words, a "D guy?") it makes her actions that much more contemptible and worthy of my despising.

I find that surprising, considering that she was the one who was most conflicted about turning on Picard, and was the one who eventually changed sides and helped Picard and the rest do the right thing. Doesn't recognizing her mistake and trying to make amends for it count for anything?

I don`t have the book at hand but from what I remember, she mainly started to switch sides when it became obvious that their clumsy mutiny didn`t work out. Putting aside that her motives never made sense to me anyway, it remains to be seen if Kadohata really recognized her mistake or if she just gave up and cooperated because she had no other choice. The question is, can Picard really trust this woman? Who says she won`t do something like this again?

And that's why I'm still boggled by Picard letting her and Leybenzon (who really, truly needs to see a counselor or undergo Federation-era shock therapy or something) stay on-board, and even as senior staff members.

 

[Trent Roman]

Kadohata should look into a transfer to a post under Jellico's (direct) command; he's always appreciated good little wind-up toy soldiers who follow orders by rote. Probably a much more compatible relationship than a freethinker and orders-reinterpreter like Picard. Leybenzon... I seriously doubt a man who would gleefully offer to torture his fellow officers belongs in the service at all. He should look into joining CTU (I'm sure Jack Bauer is still alive and kicking, although he took a bathroom break for twelve years in the middle of the 23rd century).

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman