Janeway - worthy TREK Captain or not?
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Can't speak for Clegg, but I still love you.
It's okay. I'll live with it. I still not completely done with the Voyager relaunch. Maybe I'll finish those first.
And I still love you too.
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According to Q, they're Worf's dietary supplement of choice.
According to Q, they're Worf's dietary supplement of choice.
Same here. TNG was great when it was on air, but it hasn't stood the test of time. The acting, the sets, the plots - there's a sort of stilted, artificial feel to it. I like TOS in small doses for the pure campiness. But who knows about Voyager, it's probably too early to say how well it'll do in the long run.
Ahhh!!!
Bad co-mod. Bad...
If I knew where KM kept her whips you'd get a lashing.
Mrs Paris
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but the late seasons of TNG are much better
As an African-American I'm highly offended by the use of whips.
Ahhh!!!
Bad co-mod. Bad...
If I knew where KM kept her whips you'd get a lashing.
Leather paddles, please folks...................they also don't leave marks.
Now, who wants to be the first to beat me like Neelix?
Can you at least use a ball gag so the screaming doesn't overlap into other forums and they come in here to see what is going on.
Oh and to keep the thread on topic - Janeway was into bondage. She was a well known Dominatrix. Where as other TREK Captains exhibited no evidence of dom/sub/ B&D behaviors.
Oh and to keep the thread on topic - Janeway was into bondage. She was a well known Dominatrix. Where as other TREK Captains exhibited no evidence of dom/sub/ B&D behaviors.
I'll bet she kept the Arachnia outfit just for that purpose.
Mrs Paris
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I'll bet she kept the Arachnia outfit just for that purpose.
dude I would love to have that outfit for myself
Now I have to wonder what she does with that prehinsile plant she got.
Ahhh!!!
Bad co-mod. Bad...
If I knew where KM kept her whips you'd get a lashing.
KM shares her whips!?
**files away for future reference**
Speaking for myself, I don't see any real difference between the look of Voyager and TNG. So they used warmer colors on the TNG set and more metalic ones on the Voyager one, so what?
Most of the Voyager sets were built from the Ent-D ones, i.e. Sickbay, corridors, transporter room. A new coat of paint keeps them from being dated?!?!?!? How does the Enterprise-D look like a luxery liner? I've been on cruises and they don't look anything like the Ent-D on the inside or the outside.
And I don't get how the TNG sets look 80s. I was a kid in the 80s and the one thing about them, artistically, was loud primary colors. Look at the Police synchronicity tourh, Cyndi Lauper videos, etc. It was all about loud clothes and colored hair, basically, post-modern art to an extreme.
The TNG sets imo, don't echo the 80s at all. The only thing that looks dated in TNG, imo, are some of the earlier (seasons 1 and 2) imo.
The inclusion of the ship's shrink, according to Ron Moore and Joe Menkosky, was something that makes TNG look dated, because therapy took off in the 80s, but as for the rest, I just don't see it.
The original show looks dated with its more primitive interfaces and some of the pulpier conventions (it did a great job of keeping what was great of the past with westerns and old adventure movies and looking towards the future imo), but, honestly, I don't see any big differences between TNG and VOY at all. IMO VOY was just TNG v2.
Re-read what I wrote.
Speaking for myself, I don't see any real difference between the look of Voyager and TNG. So they used warmer colors on the TNG set and more metalic ones on the Voyager one, so what?
How does the Enterprise-D look like a luxery liner? I've been on cruises and they don't look anything like the Ent-D on the inside or the outside.
And I don't get how the TNG sets look 80s. I was a kid in the 80s and the one thing about them, artistically, was loud primary colors. Look at the Police synchronicity tourh, Cyndi Lauper videos, etc. It was all about loud clothes and colored hair, basically, post-modern art to an extreme.
The TNG sets imo, don't echo the 80s at all. The only thing that looks dated in TNG, imo, are some of the earlier (seasons 1 and 2) imo.
The inclusion of the ship's shrink, according to Ron Moore and Joe Menkosky, was something that makes TNG look dated, because therapy took off in the 80s, but as for the rest, I just don't see it.
The original show looks dated with its more primitive interfaces and some of the pulpier conventions (it did a great job of keeping what was great of the past with westerns and old adventure movies and looking towards the future imo), but, honestly, I don't see any big differences between TNG and VOY at all. IMO VOY was just TNG v2.
I said B5 looked 80's, I didn't say anything about TNG looking like that.
Also don't be so extreme.
Having a style that's 80's doesn't mean Culture Club is going to come on playing on the set.
Mrs Paris
Captain
Speaking for myself, I don't see any real difference between the look of Voyager and TNG. So they used warmer colors on the TNG set and more metalic ones on the Voyager one, so what?
How does the Enterprise-D look like a luxery liner? I've been on cruises and they don't look anything like the Ent-D on the inside or the outside.
And I don't get how the TNG sets look 80s. I was a kid in the 80s and the one thing about them, artistically, was loud primary colors. Look at the Police synchronicity tourh, Cyndi Lauper videos, etc. It was all about loud clothes and colored hair, basically, post-modern art to an extreme.
The TNG sets imo, don't echo the 80s at all. The only thing that looks dated in TNG, imo, are some of the earlier (seasons 1 and 2) imo.
The inclusion of the ship's shrink, according to Ron Moore and Joe Menkosky, was something that makes TNG look dated, because therapy took off in the 80s, but as for the rest, I just don't see it.
The original show looks dated with its more primitive interfaces and some of the pulpier conventions (it did a great job of keeping what was great of the past with westerns and old adventure movies and looking towards the future imo), but, honestly, I don't see any big differences between TNG and VOY at all. IMO VOY was just TNG v2.
voyager was much different than TNG. for one thing all the characters in Voy were much more interesting and complex, and the main point is that Voy didn't have starfleet covering their butts every episode. When Picard had a problem he could go crying to some admiral and get help. Voyager couldn't do that.
and how does this not scream 80s to you?
come on now, the hair, the clothes, the hair, the colors, the hair...it's so 80's
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