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Bad Review of ENT: Kobayashi Maru at Pink Raygun

I think the reviewer has a point about the prose in the excerpt, and (though there's no way he could actually know this) in some recent novels in general. On the other hand, his "improved" version is no better, and shares the flaw of some other recent novels: it's a lifeless description of what's happening, and prose should be more than merely functional. Given the choice, I would take M&M's slightly awkward approach over this blandness. It's also bad critical form to "fix" the work you're commenting on, of course, regardless of your ability to do so. There's a fine line in any criticism between forceful argument for your position and excessive, smug-seeming knowingness, and openly presenting yourself as better than the artist you write about is an excellent way to cross it.

The prose may be a bit bulky in places, but at least it doesn't lose any of the mood, tone and emotion in the scene. Adam Hunault's rewrite lacks any of those things, which makes it overly functional and nothing more than a transcription of events. His diction isn't as strong as M&M's. His word choice is bland. He doesn't set the scene like M&M.

What is the context of the scene and where does it fall in the novel? Is it the beginning of the book? A chapter? Or are we in the middle of a chapter after a line break? Hunault doesn't seem to take these questions into consideration.

If this is the first page of the novel, then we have started in media res -- the Enterprise and Colombia are in the middle of a mission, even if it is a seemingly boring one. From Archer's rumpled uniform to his resigned sigh (although, I would've just said "sigh" as the adjective seems a bit redundant), let's us know that the mission is taking its toll on Archer. There is banter between Erika and Archer (“All right. Who are you, and what have you done with Jonny Archer?") This gives the characters a specific manner of speaking and helps to establish a previous, ongoing relationship. Hunault's version vivisects all that. It's just the facts of the matter without any of the subtext.

Hunalt's dialog is worse: "That’s surprising, coming from you.” & "I’m an explorer. I don’t like babysitting freighter convoys either but there have been enough attacks over the past few weeks to justify it.”

It's bland and lifeless. His dialog, unlike M&M's, doesn't have a character behind it. They just deliver information like puppets.

Hunault quotes George Orwell, yet he ignores the advice. Hunault doesn't employ the right image, simile or metaphor. He just gives us stage direction and dialog. It might as well have been a page out of an ENT teleplay. Brendan Moody is right; prose must do more than be merely functional. The use of language, sentence structure and word choice helps to create pace, mood and tone. If he were truly a writer and not a critic, he would acknowledge that and be able to utilize those tools in his "revision."

You see, there’s a simple mathematical formula for writers: the number of words in a paragraph is inversely proportional to how interesting that paragraph is. Put simply, the longer you talk the more boring you are. Martin’s and Mangel’s paragraphs could charitably be described as dull. Nobody’s interested in Archer’s rumpled uniform or how many desktop terminals he has. We don’t care the slightest bit about the size of Porthos’s doggie treat, or whether it’s crunchy or chewy, or how quickly he’s distracted by it.
Hunault seems to think that there is a mathematical formula for writers. That's deadly to think of writing as a formula. One word plus another word equals two words. He makes a generalized statement that the "longer you talk the more boring you are." (He needs a better copyeditor. One, he needs a comma between "talk" and "the." Two, he ended the sentence in a preposition.) That's not necessarily true. You can be verbose as long as your diction and language is snappy and interesting, a reader will keep with it. Does less mean more? Most times. But if a writer is attempting a slower pace, the longer sentences and dependent clauses, bring things to a crawl. If a writer isn't going for a slow pace and he/she continue to use ten-dollar words, complicated sentences then it could backfire on them. Yet, Hunault rants on the details of the scene rather than what I just mentioned. He doesn't understand that prose through those above means can create pace and hold reader interest.

The details Hunault mentions help to establish setting and tone, which he doesn't even take into consideration. I am interested in Archer's rumpled uniform because it tells us that he's had a rough day, or at least a long one. Porthos being there tells us that Archer is in his cabin. The treat activates Porthos in the scene. The crunch of it gives the reader a sense of the action and provides us with a nice sound.

Although, I have to admit that I agree with Hunault's view on the over use of adjectives but that's because my own aesthetic choices want to do otherwise. It is perhaps the only thing in the whole critique that may be helpful to other writers. The rest, however, does not take into account all the factors that he praises Orwell for pointing out.
 
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It always amazes me how quickly some people will jump to conclusions about something like Trek books. It's one thing if you've read had a fair amount of whatever it is your ripping on, but to go on for 9 paragraphs talking about a 5 paragraph excerpt from book that isn't even published yet is just unbleiveable to me. As for the excerpt itself, I didn't really see where it was that bad. Sure, maybe they did get alittle overly detailed, but I've seen that plenty of times in other places so it's not like it's anything new. Oh, and I'm sorry, but I thought his excerpt was many times worse than the real one. IMO it took out all of the personality, and uniqueness (is that a word?), and made it incredibly boring.
 
middyseafort is entirely correct; the reviewer has no idea what he's going on about, and even less skill at the craft himself. For my part, I like my texts to be verbose and detailed (as long as they're within the hands of a skilled writer/writers, of course). I like the DRGIII-size bricks of writing. Being able to provide detail, interiority, character--those are the advantages of prose as an art form, and it makes no sense not to utilize them in the name of some trendy minimalism, a goal-oriented type of reading whose aim is to just get through the book quickly to say that it's done and move on to the next thing. And I abhor books composed of little more than dialogue and actions in short scenes that read like backdoor screenplays, which is how the reviewer's rendering comes off.

Now I'm just wondering whether, evil bastard that I am, I ought to send a false message of praise and ask him to review an electronic copy of one of Émile "Let Me Give An In-Depht History For Every Stain On The Wall" Zola's books--never mind catatonia, it'll make him comatose!

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
It ain't good...

http://www.pinkraygun.com/2008/04/21/portentous-barking-improving-star-trek-novels/

The review takes the upcoming Enterprise article to task for being badly written.

I find it absolutely hilarious that the reviewer bitches about Mangels and Martin being too verbose... But can't seem to help but go on and on and on about it, long after he's communicated his point.

Not to mention, he's not reviewing the ACTUAL novel, but an excerpt from the text he obtained while attending a panel discussion. This guy firmly falls into the category of "bloggers that need to get a life." Next he'll write a scathing essay about the font style and size used in the excerpt, with a good lashing about the artwork and paper quality thrown in.

Man... :rommie:
 
I think it behooves people posting in this thread to come up with some synonyms for "behoove," already used by at least three different people before my post came along. :p
 
A book about spaceships and aliens on cool adventures... and the best, most preview-worthy teaser is Archer chatting on the phone about how bored he is? It's like some lazy intern in marketing opened the book at random and copypasta'd.

I'm a big whore for Enterprise - I love it - but juding by the preview this book looks boring.

The review was ok, although using that huuuuuuge Orwell quote instead of Strunk & White's 'Omit needless words' was lulzworthy.
 
It definitely :borg: Sounds like sour Grapes to me when it comes to this guy gripping about a book excerpt when the book hasn't even come out yet.Boy he sure went on a long winded rant didn't he . :guffaw:I liked M&M's description of Archer & Hernandez better than how this blogger changed it into flowery words.He's entitled to his opinion but I don't agree with him. I'm looking forward to reading this book.
 
A book about spaceships and aliens on cool adventures... and the best, most preview-worthy teaser is Archer chatting on the phone about how bored he is? It's like some lazy intern in marketing opened the book at random and copypasta'd.

I'm sure those few paragraphs weren't the full excerpt. I didn't actually get a copy of the sampler, but I have the impression it contained the entire first chapter of each book.
 
The reviewer definitely did shoot himself in the foot by rewriting the scene, but other than that, I agree with him 100%. His paragraph that begins "The second paragraph alone..." perfectly describes what I hate about Trek books that I don't like. Phrases like "crunchy tidbit" (it hurt just to type that) set my teeth on edge. I won't point the finger at M&M, because I haven't read much of their work, but I have read a number of other Trek authors who shall remain nameless, and I've found all of these problems that he describes here with annoying frequency. Reading ST fiction has been a love/hate relationship for me ever since I started pursuing the hobby very actively about two years ago. The "hate" part of it wasn't caused by weak plots or empty characterizations, it was caused by all-too-common occurences of writing like that excerpt.
And as for Therin questioning the validity of the review because the blogger gave up Trek books long ago, I say maybe he gave them up long ago because of more writing like this. It's been around for a while.

The fact is, I've read many bad Trek books; I've read many Trek books that I thrown down in disgust, unfinished, because I couldn't stand the writing style. But I've read enough good ones (and truly great ones) to make it worth my while. So I am truly glad that the Trek tie-in fiction is thriving more than ever now, but we (that being the entire Trek Lit community) can't become comfortable with mediocrity. We should always hope that the Trek Lit creators continually strive to improve themselves and their craft.
So I say, Adam, shame on you for trying to place yourself as personally being a better writer than Martin and Mangels (I know I'm not better; if I were, I would be a published author right now), but other than that, I'm right there with you.
 
Those five paragraphs aren't perfect, but they set the scene and make me want to read on. I actually like the technique of making the reader guess the identity of one or more people in a scene before revealing them. It makes the reader a more active participant, which is crucial at the beginning of a story or a chapter.

After the excellent Forged in Fire, Martin and Mangels have more than earned the benefit of the doubt.
 
I actually like the technique of making the reader guess the identity of one or more people in a scene before revealing them. It makes the reader a more active participant, which is crucial at the beginning of a story or a chapter.

See, I don't really like that technique either, especially since I like to "hear" the dialogue being said in my mind by the character. I become an active participant only in the sense that I scan ahead real quick to try to divine who the dialogue belongs to.
 
And as for Therin questioning the validity of the review because the blogger gave up Trek books long ago, I say maybe he gave them up long ago because of more writing like this. It's been around for a while.

Please do give examples.

I still can't see how reading one upcoming M&M novel extract permits him to extend his criticism to the state of all modern ST novels, when he gave them up in middle school, presumably before most of today's ST novelists were writing ST.

I've read many Trek books that I thrown down in disgust, unfinished, because I couldn't stand the writing style.

Please do tell. I've read nearly everything, and the only times I was angered by style were "Warped" and "The Laertian Gamble". But even then, I kept reading.

we (that being the entire Trek Lit community) can't become comfortable with mediocrity.
So, who's mediocre at the moment?
 
And as for Therin questioning the validity of the review because the blogger gave up Trek books long ago, I say maybe he gave them up long ago because of more writing like this. It's been around for a while.

Please do give examples.

I still can't see how reading one upcoming M&M novel extract permits him to extend his criticism to the state of all modern ST novels, when he gave them up in middle school, presumably before most of today's ST novelists were writing ST.



we (that being the entire Trek Lit community) can't become comfortable with mediocrity.
So, who's mediocre at the moment?

Thanks, but no thanks. This is all a matter of opinion, anyway (isn't that correct?), so my citing examples will only indicate specifics points in which we disagree, and won't (can't) help to prove my point at all. I'm trying to be nice/tactful and not say to a specific author that I think their work is rubbish. I know I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of such a statement.

I've read many Trek books that I thrown down in disgust, unfinished, because I couldn't stand the writing style.

Please do tell. I've read nearly everything, and the only times I was angered by style were "Warped" and "The Laertian Gamble". But even then, I kept reading.

I'm happy for you that your tastes in prose fiction allow you to enjoy more Star Trek literature than my tastes allow me. What do you want me to say, that I'm sorry for being so disgusted by them? Do you want me to cite which books have made me so disgusted, so you can post an argument about why I should've enjoyed them more? What's the point of that?
Let's get something straight. I own many, many Trek books, and I'm pretty sure I'll be a Trek Lit reader for many years down the road, love/hate or not. But I don't feel beholden to force myself to enjoy every single volume, when I find some of the writing to be quite subpar. I further feel that, because you (and many others around here) are quite devoted to the books, you're being a tad bit defensive towards myself and the original blogger for having an opinion different from yours. There's no point in debating; neither of our positions are defensible because they're entirely based on taste. And I'm trying to be respectful to hard-working individuals who I believe are (no matter what their subjective level of talent is) trying their best to make quality works of tie-in fiction. Ergo, I'm not gonna drop a name and say "I can't stand [insert name of author or book]. I think he/she/it sucks, and whenever I try to read something by that author (or that book), my brain cells want to end their misery by leaping to safety out of my ear canal." If I think that, it's my right as a reader, but I don't see the need to specify an author or book for whom that might be the case. This is especially true since many current authors post here on the board, and so have taken on the identities of individuals, rather than faceless ciphers.
 
I very much agree with what Therin said, I just want to add another thought:

It always rubs me the wrong way when people use the word “we” in comments. I am part of the “entire Trek Lit community” but I am not part of that “we”. A writing style is a matter of taste. As I said, I like the excerpt and most definitely don`t want to see that authors take this criticism to heart and change their style to that of the boring, lifeless text the reviewer wrote. In my opinion, there is no problem and no need for any fixing.

I like the language in Trek books to be interesting and lively. I actually enjoy plays with words. OK, the “crunchy tidbit” got my attention, too – but it made me laugh. I thought it was a fun way to use language.
 
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