The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

[The Old Mixer]

That's a good lineup.

I try to watch these at least in the background, but I think I dozed off and missed a good hunk of this one.

I had to check that out, being a big Three Dog Night fan, but there's apparently no connection. Not even a lawsuit. There's definitely similarities, though.

Maybe they're both based on a third source that was in the public domain or something.

Ooh, just like Nancy and Ron.

That's an angle I'm not familiar with. I've heard of the astrology stuff.

I can imagine what he thought of social media commentators.

Had to look at the lyrics to get that.

I was going to say surreal, like they wrote it 2oclock that morning while under the influence of mind-altering substances.

It seemed like an entire episode that had that vibe usually reserved for the later third, where they put the weaker, less coherent stuff with the expectation that less people are watching.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Maybe they're both based on a third source that was in the public domain or something.

That's a strong possibility, but there was no hint of it on Wiki or whatever. Not that I did any deep research.

That's an angle I'm not familiar with. I've heard of the astrology stuff.

There were longstanding rumors (or accusations) that Nancy was the power behind the throne. Probably not completely unfounded, especially as time went on.

Had to look at the lyrics to get that.

I guess he must have gotten some bad reviews.

It seemed like an entire episode that had that vibe usually reserved for the later third, where they put the weaker, less coherent stuff with the expectation that less people are watching.

That's interesting that you can actually feel that curve of them saving the worst for last.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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50 Years Ago This Week

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August 16

• The first National Football League game ever played outside of North America took place in Tokyo, at a preseason exhibition that the St. Louis Cardinals won over the San Diego Chargers, 20 to 10, before a crowd of 38,000 fans.

August 17

• A tsunami killed more than 5,000 people on the islands of Mindanao and Sulu in the Philippines shortly after an earthquake struck offshore at 11 minutes after midnight local time. Waves as high as 29 feet were reported to have swept over Lebak on Mindanao. According to the Philippines' National Disaster Coordinating Center the next day, 3,131 people were confirmed dead and 3,117 were missing.
• At the Conference of Non-Aligned Nations (commonly called "The Third World Conference" by the Western press), held in Colombo, Sri Lanka, Vietnam's Communist Prime Minister Pham Van Dong told fellow Third World leaders that Vietnam wanted to develop normal diplomatic relations with the U.S., and to develop economic ties with the U.S. and other capitalist nations.

August 18

• At the "Bridge of No Return" near Panmunjom, North Korea, two United States soldiers--U.S. Army Captain Arthur G. Bonifas, 33, and First Lieutenant Mark T. Barrett, 25--were killed while trying to trim the branches on a tree which had obscured their view of their northernmost observation post in the Korean Demilitarized Zone. The incident took place on the South Korean side of the bridge, where a group of six American and four South Korean border guards under the United Nations Command, along with five South Korean civilians, were performing the trimming operation when they were approached by 11 North Korean soldiers. Under the terms of the truce creating the Korean DMZ, soldiers on both sides of the border were "guaranteed free movement and access inside the small, jointly administered zone designated as the Joint Security Area," informally referred to as the "Peace Village". At first the Communists approved of the project and even offered suggestions on pruning the trees. A few minutes later, two North Korean officers and some soldiers approached and demanded that the tree trimmings stop. The work continued, a truck with 20 more North Korean soldiers arrived, and an officer gave the order "Kill them." At 10:45 in the morning local time, the North Koreans "rushed the Americans and South Koreans with axes, metal spikes and ax handles." In the 23 years since the end of the Korean War, more than 1,000 people, including 49 Americans, had been killed in confrontations within the DMZ. According to the U.S. Department of Defense, the state of readiness was temporarily raised from DEFCON 4 to DEFCON 3 for the first time since the 1973 Arab-Israeli War.
• The Soviet Union's uncrewed spacecraft Luna 24 landed on the Moon, touching down in the Sea of Crises almost two years after Luna 23 had crashed into the same area in November 1974. During its stay of slightly less than 23 hours before it was launched back to lunar orbit to prepare for return to Earth, Luna 24 drilled two meters into the lunar surface and picked up a soil sample.

August 19

• President Gerald Ford edged out challenger Ronald Reagan in delegate votes, 1,187 to 1,070, to win the presidential nomination at the Republican National Convention at Kemper Arena in Kansas City. The balloting was close enough between Ford and Reagan that in an alphabetical roll call of the states' delegations, he didn't secure the necessary 1,131 majority until receiving 20 votes from the West Virginia delegates at 12:29 in the morning local time. Ford then drove to Reagan's hotel and met with the former California governor for 27 minutes.
• Later in the day, President Ford selected Bob Dole, Republican U.S. Senator from Kansas, as his running mate. In addition, for the first time since 1960, the nominees of the two parties agreed to nationally televised presidential debates, as Democratic nominee Jimmy Carter accepted a challenge made by Ford.

August 20

• For the first time in U.S. history, the two major party candidates for Vice President--Walter Mondale and Bob Dole--agreed to debate on live television.

August 21

• Three days after the killing of a pair of U.S. Army officers in the Korean DMZ by North Koreans, the United States carried out "Operation Paul Bunyan," a show of force to remind North Korea of the U.S. determination to protect South Korea. Accompanied by the dispatch of F-4, F-111, and B-52 fighters and bombers, as well as helicopter gunships and 300 soldiers, a group of 110 U.S. servicemen went to the Panmunjom site and completed the job of cutting down the 40-foot-tall poplar tree that had been the cause of the international incident.

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Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:

1. "Don't Go Breaking My Heart," Elton John & Kiki Dee
2. "You Should Be Dancing," Bee Gees
3. "Let 'em In," Wings
4. "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine," Lou Rawls
5. "I'd Really Love to See You Tonight," England Dan & John Ford Coley
6. "(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty," KC & The Sunshine Band
7. "Rock and Roll Music," The Beach Boys
8. "Kiss and Say Goodbye," The Manhattans
9. "Get Closer," Seals & Crofts (feat. Carolyn Willis)
10. "Turn the Beat Around," Vicki Sue Robinson
11. "This Masquerade," George Benson
12. "Play That Funky Music," Wild Cherry
13. "A Fifth of Beethoven," Walter Murphy & The Big Apple Band
14. "Baby, I Love Your Way," Peter Frampton
15. "Love Is Alive," Gary Wright
16. "Say You Love Me," Fleetwood Mac
17. "Afternoon Delight," Starland Vocal Band
18. "I'm Easy," Keith Carradine
19. "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel," Tavares
20. "Young Hearts Run Free," Candi Staton
21. "Summer," War
22. "Lowdown," Boz Scaggs
23. "Got to Get You into My Life," The Beatles
24. "A Little Bit More," Dr. Hook
25. "With Your Love," Jefferson Starship
26. "Who'd She Coo?," Ohio Players
27. "Still the One," Orleans
28. "If You Leave Me Now," Chicago
29. "Wham Bam Shang-a-Lang," Silver
30. "Devil Woman," Cliff Richard
31. "Shower the People," James Taylor
32. "Getaway," Earth, Wind & Fire
33. "She's Gone," Daryl Hall & John Oates
34. "Moonlight Feels Right," Starbuck

36. "Last Child," Aerosmith

39. "You're My Best Friend," Queen
40. "One Love in My Lifetime," Diana Ross
41. "Teddy Bear," Red Sovine
42. "Let Her In," John Travolta

44. "If You Know What I Mean," Neil Diamond
45. "Something He Can Feel," Aretha Franklin
46. "Tear the Roof Off the Sucker (Give Up the Funk)," Parliament

48. "The Boys Are Back in Town," Thin Lizzy
49. "More More More, Pt. 1," Andrea True Connection

51. "Magic Man," Heart

58. "Ode to Billie Joe," Bobbie Gentry

60. "(Don't Fear) The Reaper," Blue Öyster Cult

68. "I'll Be Good to You," The Brothers Johnson

70. "Rock'n Me," Steve Miller Band
71. "That'll Be the Day," Linda Ronstadt

79. "Disco Duck (Part I)," Rick Dees & His Cast of Idiots

82. "You Are the Woman," Firefall

87. "It's O.K.," The Beach Boys

97. "I Need to Be in Love," Carpenters

99. "Take the Money and Run," Steve Miller Band

Leaving the chart:

• "Misty Blue," Dorothy Moore (22 weeks)
• "Shop Around," Captain & Tennille (16 weeks)
• "Silly Love Songs," Wings (19 weeks)

New on the chart:

"It's O.K.," The Beach Boys

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(#29 US; #33 AC)

"That'll Be the Day," Linda Ronstadt

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(#11 US; #16 AC; #27 Country; #53 UK)

"You Are the Woman," Firefall

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(#9 US; #6 AC)

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There were longstanding rumors (or accusations) that Nancy was the power behind the throne. Probably not completely unfounded, especially as time went on.

I find it more likely that he was delegating operational authority to his cabinet.

That's interesting that you can actually feel that curve of them saving the worst for last.

It was definitely a tangible phenomenon in first-run viewing of later seasons. I just recently caught an online comment that referred to it as the post-Weekend Update slump or something to that effect.

 

[RJDiogenes]

The first National Football League game ever played outside of North America took place in Tokyo, at a preseason exhibition that the St. Louis Cardinals won over the San Diego Chargers, 20 to 10, before a crowd of 38,000 fans.

That seems like a long way to go for an exhibition game not involving the Japanese at all.

The Ramones made their first "professional" performance

It always amazes me to see a Punk or New Wave artist appear so early. I was completely oblivious until about 1980 or so.

CBGB, a bar in New York's East Village that initially limited its music to "country, blue grass and blues" music but soon moved into punk rock and new wave music.

Eventually to be immortalized by the Talking Heads. Although "immortalized" may be overselling it.

A tsunami killed more than 5,000 people on the islands of Mindanao and Sulu in the Philippines

That's horrific, especially considering the size of the place. I hate to think of what percentage of the population that was.

Sri Lanka, Vietnam's Communist Prime Minister Pham Van Dong told fellow Third World leaders that Vietnam wanted to develop normal diplomatic relations with the U.S., and to develop economic ties with the U.S. and other capitalist nations.

Politics makes strange bedfellows.

At the "Bridge of No Return" near Panmunjom, North Korea, two United States soldiers--U.S. Army Captain Arthur G. Bonifas, 33, and First Lieutenant Mark T. Barrett, 25--were killed while trying to trim the branches on a tree which had obscured their view of their northernmost observation post in the Korean Demilitarized Zone. The incident took place on the South Korean side of the bridge, where a group of six American and four South Korean border guards under the United Nations Command, along with five South Korean civilians, were performing the trimming operation when they were approached by 11 North Korean soldiers. Under the terms of the truce creating the Korean DMZ, soldiers on both sides of the border were "guaranteed free movement and access inside the small, jointly administered zone designated as the Joint Security Area," informally referred to as the "Peace Village". At first the Communists approved of the project and even offered suggestions on pruning the trees. A few minutes later, two North Korean officers and some soldiers approached and demanded that the tree trimmings stop. The work continued, a truck with 20 more North Korean soldiers arrived, and an officer gave the order "Kill them." At 10:45 in the morning local time, the North Koreans "rushed the Americans and South Koreans with axes, metal spikes and ax handles."

This is stupider than the Cod Wars.

The Soviet Union's uncrewed spacecraft Luna 24 landed on the Moon, touching down in the Sea of Crises almost two years after Luna 23 had crashed into the same area in November 1974. During its stay of slightly less than 23 hours before it was launched back to lunar orbit to prepare for return to Earth, Luna 24 drilled two meters into the lunar surface and picked up a soil sample.

Kudos to the Soviets for a change. I won't even joke about them.

Later in the day, President Ford selected Bob Dole, Republican U.S. Senator from Kansas, as his running mate.

Who would later fail at the top of the ticket twenty years later.

For the first time in U.S. history, the two major party candidates for Vice President--Walter Mondale and Bob Dole--agreed to debate on live television.

Prior to this, half of the population didn't realize there was such a thing as a vice president.

Three days after the killing of a pair of U.S. Army officers in the Korean DMZ by North Koreans, the United States carried out "Operation Paul Bunyan,"

Arrgh. Please tell me this is a joke.

"It's O.K.," The Beach Boys

I have no memory of this little ditty at all.

"That'll Be the Day," Linda Ronstadt

Not her best, but she's always nice to listen to. Strong nostalgic value.

"You Are the Woman," Firefall

Lyrically generic, but a very pleasant Summery sound. Strong nostalgic value.

I find it more likely that he was delegating operational authority to his cabinet.

No doubt there was a lot of that going on, too, but based on the appearance of their relationship I'm sure she had a lot of control over him.

It was definitely a tangible phenomenon in first-run viewing of later seasons. I just recently caught an online comment that referred to it as the post-Weekend Update slump or something to that effect.

That's hilarious.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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70 Years Ago This Month (Part 2)

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August 17

• At the close of the 1956 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Adlai Stevenson II is nominated as the presidential candidate, with 65.9% of the vote. Estes Kefauver is selected as his running mate.

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Charting the week of August 18:

"Honky Tonk (Parts 1 & 2)," Bill Doggett

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(#2 US; #1 R&B)

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August 20

• After his appearance at the Newport Jazz Festival in the United States, musician Duke Ellington appears on the cover of Time magazine.

August 21

• Born: Kim Cattrall, English-born Canadian actress, in Liverpool, UK

August 22

• Fighter planes from the People's Republic of China shoot down a Japan-based U.S. Navy aircraft as it flies a night reconnaissance mission over the Taiwan Strait. All 16 aboard are killed.
• The Martin JRM Mars flying boat makes its final passenger flight. At the end of a flight from Honolulu, Hawaii, U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander Virgil Solomon lands the Marianas Mars at Alameda, California.

August 23

• At the close of the 1956 Republican National Convention in San Francisco, incumbent President Dwight D. Eisenhower is nominated for re-election, with incumbent Vice-President Richard M. Nixon as his running mate. Nat King Cole is among the speakers at the convention.

August 24

• A United States Army Shawnee helicopter makes the first non-stop helicopter flight across the United States mainland, flying 2,610 miles from San Diego, California, to Washington, D.C.
• The world's first five-stage, solid-fuel rocket test vehicle is launched to a speed of Mach 15 by the NACA Langley Aeronautical Laboratory's Pilotless Aircraft Research Division.

August 25

• Died: Alfred Kinsey, 62, U.S. sex researcher (heart ailment and pneumonia)

August 27

• The "Clinton Twelve" (Jo Ann Allen, Bobby Cain, Theresser Caswell, Minnie Ann Dickey, Gail Ann Epps, Ronald Hayden, William Latham, Alvah J. McSwain, Maurice Soles, Robert Thacker, Regina Turner, and Alfred Williams) attend classes at Clinton High School in Clinton, Tennessee, becoming the first African American students to desegregate a state-supported public school in the Southern United States.

August 30

• The mayor and police chief of Mansfield, Texas, join a crowd of about 300 white protesters in front of Mansfield High School, in an attempt to prevent the enrollment of the three black students.

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Released in August:

"I Asked for Water," Howlin' Wolf

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(#7 R&B)

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That seems like a long way to go for an exhibition game not involving the Japanese at all.

They probably had reasons--sponsorship or something.

It always amazes me to see a Punk or New Wave artist appear so early. I was completely oblivious until about 1980 or so.

It struck me as very odd that this would be considered the Ramones' first "professional" appearance, as they already have an album out and on the national chart, and most bands come up playing clubs and whatnot. Looking at the group's Wiki page, it seems that this engagement happened on August 16, 1974, not 1976. I've removed the item from my post.

That's horrific, especially considering the size of the place. I hate to think of what percentage of the population that was.

As much as 1.16%. A quick search indicates that the population of the Philippines was 43.2 million or so in 1976.

This is stupider than the Cod Wars.

Kudos to the Soviets for a change. I won't even joke about them.

Who would later fail at the top of the ticket twenty years later.

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Prior to this, half of the population didn't realize there was such a thing as a vice president.

Could be....

Arrgh. Please tell me this is a joke.

I thought it sounded kinda cool.

I have no memory of this little ditty at all.

It's new to me. Sounds nice, but it has nothing on the group's prime work in the '60s.

Not her best, but she's always nice to listen to. Strong nostalgic value.

Suppose I'll get it, though it has nothing on Buddy.

Lyrically generic, but a very pleasant Summery sound. Strong nostalgic value.

Another nice, memorable soft rock number of the era.

That's hilarious.

Those later skits tended to have kind of a surreal quality that was enhanced by being drowsy/half-awake while watching.

 

[RJDiogenes]

At the close of the 1956 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Adlai Stevenson II is nominated as the presidential candidate, with 65.9% of the vote. Estes Kefauver is selected as his running mate.

Run, guys, you're about to get caught in a landslide.

"Honky Tonk (Parts 1 & 2)," Bill Doggett

They both charted at the same time?

Fighter planes from the People's Republic of China shoot down a Japan-based U.S. Navy aircraft as it flies a night reconnaissance mission over the Taiwan Strait. All 16 aboard are killed.

Lots of aggressive action from hostile foreign powers around this time.

At the close of the 1956 Republican National Convention in San Francisco, incumbent President Dwight D. Eisenhower is nominated for re-election, with incumbent Vice-President Richard M. Nixon as his running mate. Nat King Cole is among the speakers at the convention.

Nat King Cole had a quietly effective personality. Once again we see that the 50s don't get enough credit.

The world's first five-stage, solid-fuel rocket test vehicle is launched to a speed of Mach 15 by the NACA Langley Aeronautical Laboratory's Pilotless Aircraft Research Division.

Five stages! You don't see that too often.

The "Clinton Twelve" (Jo Ann Allen, Bobby Cain, Theresser Caswell, Minnie Ann Dickey, Gail Ann Epps, Ronald Hayden, William Latham, Alvah J. McSwain, Maurice Soles, Robert Thacker, Regina Turner, and Alfred Williams) attend classes at Clinton High School in Clinton, Tennessee, becoming the first African American students to desegregate a state-supported public school in the Southern United States.

Yep, the 50s did their part.

"I Asked for Water," Howlin' Wolf

This is pretty cool.

They probably had reasons--sponsorship or something.

Trying to open up a new market maybe.

It struck me as very odd that this would be considered the Ramones' first "professional" appearance, as they already have an album out and on the national chart, and most bands come up playing clubs and whatnot. Looking at the group's Wiki page, it seems that this engagement happened on August 16, 1974, not 1976. I've removed the item from my post.

Ah, okay. Which makes it even weirder for me, because that's two years earlier.

As much as 1.16%. A quick search indicates that the population of the Philippines was 43.2 million or so in 1976.

And casualties were no doubt localized, so a lot of people probably lost a big chunk of their friends and family.

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Lots of interesting stuff there. Dole got the Ford treatment. They hadn't yet assigned the colors red and blue to political ideologies. They're openly satirical about media bias, but they don't let Clinton off easy.

I thought it sounded kinda cool.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but it seems a little lighthearted after those guys were just killed.

Those later skits tended to have kind of a surreal quality that was enhanced by being drowsy/half-awake while watching.

Possibly otherwise enhanced as well.

 

[The Old Mixer]

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50th Anniversary Viewing

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The Midnight Special
August 6, 1976
Guest host: James Brown
Featuring Kiki Dee; Peter Frampton; Elton John; Rhythm Heritage; Seals & Crofts; J. D. Souther; Salute to Alice Cooper

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The Godfather of Soul: I'm back!

Elton & Kiki appear via their music video again. I didn't check if the cut was different this time.

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The Midnight Special
August 13, 1976
Guest host: Paul Williams
Featuring The Brothers Johnson; Anthony Newley; Queen; Vicki Sue Robinson; Candi Staton; Salute to Jackie Wilson

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Paul: I thought everybody would think I was Helen Reddy.

Queen appears via their video for "You're My Best Friend".

The Wolfman announces Helen's return next week.

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They both charted at the same time?

Not sure, but that's how it's listed on the site where I get chart info for this era.

Lots of aggressive action from hostile foreign powers around this time.

The Korea thing is 20 years later.

This is pretty cool.

It's got that Howlin' Wolf atmosphere.

Ah, okay. Which makes it even weirder for me, because that's two years earlier.

Keep in mind that punk was in full swing by '77, as an alternative to disco. And proto-punk acts like Iggy Pop & The Stooges go back to the late '60s.

They hadn't yet assigned the colors red and blue to political ideologies.

Hadn't noticed that.

They're openly satirical about media bias, but they don't let Clinton off easy.

That was pure Darrell Hammond Clinton.

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Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but it seems a little lighthearted after those guys were just killed.

Seems in-character for military bravado.

Possibly otherwise enhanced as well.

Not in my case at the age when I started staying up to watch the show.

Did you hear about Hayden Panettierre?

 

[RJDiogenes]

Featuring Kiki Dee; Peter Frampton; Elton John; Rhythm Heritage; Seals & Crofts; J. D. Souther; Salute to Alice Cooper

That's a good lineup.

Elton & Kiki appear via their music video again. I didn't check if the cut was different this time.

I definitely saw it on Midnight Special, but I have no idea which one.

Featuring The Brothers Johnson; Anthony Newley; Queen; Vicki Sue Robinson; Candi Staton; Salute to Jackie Wilson

Not quite as impressive, but there's Queen.

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That looks like a ventriloquist act.

Paul: I thought everybody would think I was Helen Reddy.

Not sure, but that's how it's listed on the site where I get chart info for this era.

Interesting. It would be pretty long if they ran them together.

The Korea thing is 20 years later.

Oh, right. I'm unstuck in time again. I should start calling you Al. Not the Paul Simon Al, the Quantum Leap Al.

Keep in mind that punk was in full swing by '77, as an alternative to disco. And proto-punk acts like Iggy Pop & The Stooges go back to the late '60s.

And I had pretty much no exposure to it until around late 1979.

That was pure Darrell Hammond Clinton.

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This is why Obama had no sex scandals. Clinton went over his quota. I tried looking for the debate between Clinton and Bush that they did, but I couldn't find it. While debating, Clinton was seeing Bush as a little old lady and Bush was seeing Clinton as a drugged-up Hippie. It was probably the single funniest thing I ever saw on SNL.

Seems in-character for military bravado.

Yeah, I guess.

Not in my case at the age when I started staying up to watch the show.

I should hope not. You don't want to grow up to be Bill Clinton.

Did you hear about Hayden Panettierre?

Yes, I saw that yesterday. What a tragedy. I had no idea she was leading such a troubled life. And she leaves behind an 11-year-old kid too.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Not quite as impressive, but there's Queen.

Not Live Queen, though.

That looks like a ventriloquist act.

That was the gag--Paul was mouthing Wolfman's announcement.

Interesting. It would be pretty long if they ran them together.

The info is suspect.

Oh, right. I'm unstuck in time again. I should start calling you Al. Not the Paul Simon Al, the Quantum Leap Al.

Nowadays "Al" looks too much like something else, at least in sans serif....

This is why Obama had no sex scandals. Clinton went over his quota. I tried looking for the debate between Clinton and Bush that they did, but I couldn't find it. While debating, Clinton was seeing Bush as a little old lady and Bush was seeing Clinton as a drugged-up Hippie. It was probably the single funniest thing I ever saw on SNL.

Yep, that was, IIRC, the new intro sketch to their '92 prime-time political special...with Phil Hartman as the show's original Clinton.

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I should hope not. You don't want to grow up to be Bill Clinton.

Say, are you gonna finish those fries?

Yes, I saw that yesterday. What a tragedy. I had no idea she was leading such a troubled life. And she leaves behind an 11-year-old kid too.

I didn't know that...

 

[RJDiogenes]

Not Live Queen, though.

No, that would have been very cool.

That was the gag--Paul was mouthing Wolfman's announcement.

Nice.

The info is suspect.

Yeah, it seems weird.

Nowadays "Al" looks too much like something else, at least in sans serif....

I am forever pronouncing "AI" as "Al" in my head. <-- I got that right, I double checked.

Yep, that was, IIRC, the new intro sketch to their '92 prime-time political special...with Phil Hartman as the show's original Clinton.

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The food never gets to the people who need it.

Say, are you gonna finish those fries?

I didn't know that...

Apparently she voluntarily gave up custody. It's a tragedy. No matter how perfect somebody seems, you never know what's eating them up inside.