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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Another nutty Starfleet captain, who I recognized from the pictures, not by name.
Actually an Academy washout who commanded a civilian scout or merchant marine vessel, but yeah. He's popped up in a number of other things, including the H5O episode I wasn't able to watch because it was only shown once.

Principal Whatsisname from Room 222.
I have no first-hand familiarity with that show, but I'm pretty sure he popped up on 12OCH at least once.

"Don't kill my brother! Let me do it!"
:lol: Pretty much.

So who's taking care of him? Does he actually have a serious injury from getting clonked, or is that just a ruse?
Martin might've just been stopping her from giving him an injection, and ruse. The implant was the source of his pain.

I wonder where Ted sent it and how it eventually got to David. David can't possibly still have his house or apartment from the before times.
Forwarding addresses, I guess. Maybe some strategically located PO boxes.

This is actually kind of a cool twist, that the guy contacted him because of his architect skills and not because of aliens.
I think the original reason was the aliens. He experienced pains when he tried to remember the truth.

It's a little vague what's been happening with Ted and how much time has passed. Why didn't he ever contact his girlfriend? He doesn't seem to have forgotten about her.
Manipulated or conditioned by his brother, I guess. He might've had a more specific motivation, real or forced upon him, but I didn't jot it down.

Whoa, futuristic.
The guy was literally sorting through punch cards.

The aliens are slowly building an army of the sick and infirm who will conquer the world.
You would've liked this bit, it played like something out of a horror flick.

Should probably have it removed anyway, both for safety and for study.
Maybe it glowed up in there.

He killed him?
Yep. There were some last words between them, but I didn't jot it down. I think Marty asserted that everything he did was to protect his brother.

Newcomb didn't know about the aliens?
Nope.

Because why?
Speed.

I'm sure they didn't specify how the program works, but this is a nice development.
I wouldn't expect to see it again. Scoville made some noise along the way about how once they'd used it, the aliens would change their signals. I got the impression it was just a lure in the larger ruse.

Was this just part of the plan? It would make sense that Scoville would support his old friend over the newcomer.
Yeah, part of the plan. I was initially very taken aback by the antagonism between Scoville and David in this one, and wondered if it was an episode order thing. They'd worked together too closely too many times at this point.

That's pretty weird. Is he a famous enough architect to warrant that or are they actually cashing in on his conspiracy kook status?
Oh, they didn't name it after him, they just had signage on display that named the site's architect large enough to be read on TV.
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We're now at the point where my postings are overtaking the batch of recordings from last year. This episode expires in two days.

"Extra! Conspiracy Kook Kills Kramer!"
:D

This is an interesting development. Does Joan appear in future episodes?
Not so far.

Presumably in the employ of Lucien, not Scoville.
I think, but I'm not sure if it was specified.

A motivation of bitter revenge would have worked better, I think.
He was definitely fakely motivated by grudge-bearing.

It does feel like they're setting her up to be a major character.
Sometimes a guest star is just a guest star...especially on this type of show in its day.

That's a cool shot of David with the raygun. Unfortunately, I'm sure he doesn't hang on to it for future use. :rommie:
I'm sure that the Believers are studying it.

Well, if she's Scoville's personal aide, I'd kind of expect her to have some martial arts training.
Not the way it was played, but going back, it turns out that there was an initial struggle, she was subdued, and when David came out, she was at it again.
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"But if she kicks me in the 'nads, I glow up!"

Yeah, that's right. Of course, they could have had mutual owners or investors. Or there could have been a contract. Now I'm curious. I may research it.
In the case of set reuses, probably just the property of a specific studio.
 
Actually an Academy washout who commanded a civilian scout or merchant marine vessel, but yeah.
Oh, right, I remember now.

I have no first-hand familiarity with that show, but I'm pretty sure he popped up on 12OCH at least once.
That was one of the best shows. It's a shame it's not on one of the retro channels.

Forwarding addresses, I guess. Maybe some strategically located PO boxes.
PO Boxes are a good idea, but he seems to move around like David Banner.

I think the original reason was the aliens. He experienced pains when he tried to remember the truth.
Ohh...

The guy was literally sorting through punch cards.
:rommie:

You would've liked this bit, it played like something out of a horror flick.
That's how I was picturing it. :rommie:

Maybe it glowed up in there.
Scorching his brain stem. Not good! :rommie:

Ah, okay.

I wouldn't expect to see it again. Scoville made some noise along the way about how once they'd used it, the aliens would change their signals. I got the impression it was just a lure in the larger ruse.
That's a shame. I love the idea of a pirate radio station knocking down saucers. I may steal it. :rommie:

Oh, they didn't name it after him, they just had signage on display that named the site's architect large enough to be read on TV.
Oh. Well, that would probably mean a hefty sum of money that would finance his wanderings for a while, anyway.

He was definitely fakely motivated by grudge-bearing.
That would be more believable for him than money.

Sometimes a guest star is just a guest star...especially on this type of show in its day.
Yeah, but where she was Scoville's assistant I thought she might recur. She seemed like a good character.

I'm sure that the Believers are studying it.
True.

"But if she kicks me in the 'nads, I glow up!"
That would be way too funny for 60s TV. :rommie:

In the case of set reuses, probably just the property of a specific studio.
Actually, I did look it up and specific set designs are Copyrighted. They went into a lot of detail about the different elements of set design, but the bottom line was you can't just re-use the design of MTM or Three's Company. The specific example they used was Seinfeld, but it would apply to anybody.
 
That was one of the best shows. It's a shame it's not on one of the retro channels.
Last I checked, it was in H&I's broadcast lineup, but being replaced in its streaming lineup. Last I checked, full episodes (though sometimes edited in places that the Weigel ones aren't) were also available on YouTube.

PO Boxes are a good idea, but he seems to move around like David Banner.
But not typically under aliases, at least. Another option is that he might've had a friend or family member who was getting his mail and forwarding it to wherever he was at the time.

Something that just occurred to me about David Banner--as his body wasn't found, he shouldn't have been legally dead during the series, though he had a grave and funeral. I wonder if he did anything to observe the occasion in 1984.

That's how I was picturing it. :rommie:
"Rise, my minions...!" I wanna say that one guy literally got up out of a wheelchair, but I can't verify.

That's a shame. I love the idea of a pirate radio station knocking down saucers. I may steal it. :rommie:
They may have been able to use it repeatedly if Kramer had been around to do the work.

The episode should be coming up again Aug. 16 if you want to see it.

I just made a surprising discovery watching an episode of the Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon--I either never knew or had completely forgotten that Cosmic Boy was voiced by Wil Wheaton.

On the stands 50 years ago this week--my first issue of ASM and what appears to be the first crossover appearance of one of the new X-Men in a mainstream Marvel title:
Of course, Storm's appearance in Spidey Super-Stories #15 (also my first issue of that title) beats the above issue by the better part of a year, hence the qualifier.
 
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Last I checked, it was in H&I's broadcast lineup, but being replaced in its streaming lineup.
Interesting. It doesn't seem like their cup of tea.

Last I checked, full episodes (though sometimes edited in places that the Weigel ones aren't) were also available on YouTube.
Ah, I didn't think to check YouTube. Which I should have, because I found some (low quality) episodes of Get Christie Love on there.

Another option is that he might've had a friend or family member who was getting his mail and forwarding it to wherever he was at the time.
That would have been a smart element to add to the mix.

Something that just occurred to me about David Banner--as his body wasn't found, he shouldn't have been legally dead during the series, though he had a grave and funeral.
True, they did write him off pretty quickly. Did they give any reason for it?

I wonder if he did anything to observe the occasion in 1984.
What was 1984?

"Rise, my minions...!" I wanna say that one guy literally got up out of a wheelchair, but I can't verify.
Nice. :rommie:

They may have been able to use it repeatedly if Kramer had been around to do the work.
A lost opportunity, especially given the way the show seems to be developing.

The episode should be coming up again Aug. 16 if you want to see it.
I may just do that.

I just made a surprising discovery watching an episode of the Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon--I either never knew or had completely forgotten that Cosmic Boy was voiced by Wil Wheaton.
I don't think I even knew there was a Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon.

On the stands 50 years ago this week--my first issue of ASM and what appears to be the first crossover appearance of one of the new X-Men in a mainstream Marvel title:
I certainly remember that cover, and it's very likely that I had the issue.

Of course, Storm's appearance in Spidey Super-Stories #15 (also my first issue of that title) beats the above issue by the better part of a year, hence the qualifier.
Yeah, I wouldn't call Spidey Super-Stories mainstream. And I always thought it was weird that they used a word so strongly associated with the Delightful Competition in the title. :rommie:

you know what else is pop culture

mtv the real world and its spinoff road rules

along within the 2 mtv reality tv shows spinoff within the spinoff mtv the challenge
I used to watch MTV in the beginning, when music videos were like a new kind of art form, but they lost me with the "reality" stuff.
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Invaders
"The Pit"
Originally aired January 16, 1968
Frndly said:
The mental breakdown of a professor engaged in dream research alerts David to alien interest in the nation's top think factory.

On the campus of the Slaton Research Center, Prof. Julian Reed (soon-to-be Substitute Artie, Special Guest Star Charles Aidman) has wavy visions of saucers and colleagues with extended pinkies. He calls David from a phone booth to inform him that they're here, then attempts to get away from a gathering group of concerned onlookers, only to fall off a walkway.

The QM Narrator said:
Professor Julian Reed, a member of David's Vincent's group of believers, has been hospitalized as insane. But is he a victim of the aliens, or of his own mind?

David pays a call on Julian's wife, Pat (soon-to-be Romulan commander Joanne Linville), who's uncomfortable talking about her husband's state of sanity, and young son, Frankie (Johnny Jensen). He then visits the hospital ward, where Julian seems completely lucid but tells David that the family hasn't been visiting him; that his visions were induced by a "dream machine"; and that among the infiltrators of the space program research project is his assistant, Jeff Brower. The director of the center, Dr. John Slaton (Simon Scott), expresses certainty that Julian's state of mind was his own doing, but is willing to entertain David's investigation thanks to Scoville's influence. Brower (Donald Harron) shows David the machine in question, which monitors brain activity while a subject is dreaming and wakes them at the moment that they'll have total recall of their dream. He tells David of how Julian was using it nightly, but a malfunction was preventing him from dreaming, which drove him to his state of mind. David takes an opportunity to use a small device in the lab to detect a heartbeat from Brower.

David picks up Pat at the Center, where she also works, to try to persuade her to visit her husband. She introduces him to Chekhov's Guard Dogs, who seem docile in her presence, but have an unusual reaction to one of the guards as they leave. After telling David of a childhood incident in which her grandfather went berserk on her, Pat agrees to see Julian, but becomes uncomfortable when her husband insists that despite David's test, Brower's one of them and rigged the machine. Then he has a vision of David with an extended pinky and accuses him of being an alien, getting so worked up that he has to be restrained by an attendant.

David's planning to leave town when, dropping Pat off at work, one of the dogs gets loose and attacks the guard in question, producing bloodless gashes in his arm. The dog proceeds to chase the guard, who disintegrates right after conveniently rounding a corner so that nobody sees. Pat is unconvinced by David's explanation of what happened, but answers questions about the type of research the Center is conducting. Thinking that sabotage is being covered up, David learns that all duplicate reports sent to Washington go through Slaton, so he has Ed look into another old friend. Following up on something Julian said at the hospital, David questions Frankie about something strange that he saw--kooky-looking people with strange machinery at a closed-for-the-season pier amusement park, which his father took interest in. David proceeds to snoop around the park (Pacific Ocean Park in Santa Monica, natch), and soon finds himself pursued by a gun-toting combination of conventionally uniformed security guards and uniformed them. He shoots one of them into glowing up, then dives into the drink to make a getaway.

Damp David returns to the Reed home to find Pat hosting a discussion over coffee with some of her colleagues--Art Llewellan (Bartlett Robinson), Paul Meyers (Noah Keen), and Jeff Brower. David's reputation precedes him in this company, who start ribbing him. He offers to show them proof if they'll come to the amusement park, but they decline and disperse. Frankie comes out of his room to try to tell his mom what he saw, but this gets her going and she asks David to find another place to stay. First he gets a call from Scoville, informing him that Pat's project--an electromagnetic propulsion engine that's theorized by the Believers to be what they use--is going to be canceled based on her report; and David questions if the reports are being tampered with before they get to Washington.

As a suitcase-carrying David is getting into his cab, he finds Brower in the back and is TV Fu'd by the driver. David is taken to the Center and hooked up to the dream machine, where he has dreams of Julian at the asylum accusing him of being an alien while Pat tries to silence her husband. The alarm breaks him out of that dream, and he proceeds to another one of Pat's coffee clatch mocking him. Meanwhile, Pat shares the now-confirmed news about her project with Slaton, who takes interest in David having learned from Scoville first. Brower later gets called away from David's treatment to handle Pat, who's threatening to personally take her research back to Washington, and learns of the involvement of Scoville, who's now in town conferring with Slaton about the cancellation of Pat's project. Scoville produces the report that was rejected in Washington, and Slaton confirms that they're not the same as the ones who went through him. The weak link in the chain turns out to be Chekhov's Secretary, Mrs. Fielding (Lisabeth Field), who got a low-key introduction in an earlier scene, and has just cleared out with the records kept in her outer office. Brower intercepts a call to Pat, then accompanies her as she leaves with her notes, but she won't get in the elevator when she sees an occupant displaying The Pinky, so Jeff takes her back to his lab, where she's shocked to find David hooked up. Mrs. Fielding arrives, but she's quickly followed by Slaton, Scoville, and a security guard, the latter of whom shoots the gun-toting secretary and FIND-brandishing psychologist into red glowiness.

In the Epilog, Pat's a lowercase believer and Julian's on the road to recovery at the hospital. Pat expresses her gratitude to David as he leaves for the airport.

The QM Narrator said:
Perhaps it has ended for the Reed family. But for David Vincent, it is still the beginning.



The Invaders
"The Organization"
Originally aired January 30, 1968
Frndly said:
David forges an uneasy alliance with drug runners to track down cargo stolen by the invaders.

David makes a dockside rendezvous with Scoville-associated newspaper reporter Mike Calvin (Chris Robinson isn't old enough to be a former B-17 flight engineer, but he played one on TV) to investigate a freighter that witnessed and retrieved debris from what the Air Force wrote off as a meteor colliding with a satellite. After talking with a going-ashore second mate (Mark Allen) who offers that it didn't look like a collision at all, the guys have a look at the hold to find that they already retrieved the wreckage in the hours since the ship docked. A pair of shady characters named Dom and Perry (John Kellogg and Ross Hagen) subsequently arrive and board the ship, pulling guns on David and Mike. A struggle ensues in which Mike gets away while David gets knocked out.

The QM Narrator said:
A search for evidence of an alien spacecraft has led David Vincent into the hands of a ruthless enemy, unaware that the freighter he searched carried not one alien cargo, but two.

David is taken to a closed-down motel, where the hoods call in that they didn't find "the shipment" and question David about its whereabouts and those of his partner, whom they assume has it. A more congenial questioner later arrivers in a limo--Peter Kalter (J. D. Cannon), who talks of having a titular body behind him. It quickly becomes apparent that the shipment he's interested in was uncut drugs. David speculates that they must have taken Kalter's shipment along with the cargo that they were interested in. Kalter demands to know who this third party is, and David's naturally reluctant to offer details; though he's persuaded for the sake of his life to spill the beans, eliciting the expected reaction. Meanwhile, after having followed David's abductors partway and called in Scoville, Calvin is caught sneaking around outside the motel and brought in. When Mike expresses ignorance regarding the shipment, Kalter decides to off both of his guests.

The guys are taken outside, but the execution turns out to be a bluff to verify that they don't know where the shipment is. When everyone returns to the room, they find Scoville and several state troopers. It turns out that Kalter, who becomes coy about his business in the present company, knows Scoville (Who doesn't?), and the gangster takes David a little more seriously, though he still doesn't believe him. After being allowed to leave, Kalter receives a visit from a bigger fish, Mr. Weller (Larry Gates), who leans on him about the bad business of losing the millions of dollars the shipment is worth. This motivates Kalter to pursue the angle of teaming up with David. Meanwhile, Scoville has told David of prior bad dealings with Kalter, involving a contractor who's presumed to have ended up at the bottom of the Hudson. David feels that Kalter's organization could be of great help in finding the aliens and saucer fragments, though Scoville tries to warn him of the likely consequences of such a deal with the devil. Then Kalter shows up at Scoville's office, and emboldened by Scoville, David naively insists that if the narcotics are found, they'll have to be thrown in the river.

David persuades a reluctant Mike to plant a story in the paper about another crate that's being transported to an Air Force base; then David and Kalter drive the highway to the base in a pickup with a shipping crate on the back. They're followed by a phony motorcycle cop who ends up tossing a grenade into the back, which results in the truck overturning and catching fire. David pulls Kalter out of the burning cab. Afterward, Weller is joined by a Mr. Cort (Roy Poole) in leaning on Kalter, the two of them assuming that David's playing him. David is brought in and insists that he's told them all that he knows. When it looks like David isn't going to leave alive, Kalter takes a call from Scoville, to whom he claims that David isn't there; then confronts Dom about having lied about making unanswered calls to Scoville the day before, which Scoville previously denied. David tells Kalter to check for a pulse, and when he tries, Dom resists and makes a break for it. He's shot in the back, glowing up and leaving a spot on the carpet before everyone's eyes. The gangsters are now small-B believers, and Cort tells Kalter to give Mr. Vincent whatever he needs.

Perry brings Amos Foster (Nelson Olmstead), a building permits bureau official who's in the organization's pocket, to the motel, where David asks him to look into industrial properties that have gotten permits to use high-voltage power lines. The three of them subsequently check out one such property, where they have a regeneration station set up in a rail car, which they self-destruct via glow-up. Weller and Cort, who'd planned to off David when they found the shipment, agree against Kalter's protests to a meeting with an alien representative named Dorcas (soon-to-be father of Vulcan philosophy and later vampire Barry "B. G." Atwater), who negotiates to exchange the shipment for David Vincent, dead or alive--again against Kalter's protests. Weller orders Kalter to get on the job.

At Scoville's office, Mike informs David that Kalter's put out a contract on him. Disgregarding advice to get out of town, David calls Kalter to confront him about having made a deal with them. Kalter arranges a meeting at a restaurant, where David gets Kalter to admit that he does what he has to do to save his own skin, following which Kalter escorts David out at concealed gunpoint. David's taken to a natural history museum, where they roll out the crate of drugs while surrounding Kalter and his men. Dorcas tells Kalter to take the shipment and leave, but a little reverse-psychology guilting from David motivates Kalter to turn and shoot Dorcas. The resulting gunfight results in lots of glow-ups as well as the shooting of Kalter's men, with only David and Kalter walking away--David saving Kalter again by warning him of the last alien trying to sneak up on him.

In the Epilog, Kalter is found dead at the same restaurant, having left the organization in, as he'd previously told David, the only way possible. Scoville asserts that Kalter did the right thing in saving David's life.

The QM Narrator said:
Two hours after his decision to save David's life, Peter Kalter left the organization for good. He had joined the fight against another organization--a fight which David Vincent will continue.

Photos:

In the teaser / untitled prolog, David mentions having flown in on Scoville's jet, so he's definitely enjoying some perks from this association.



Interesting. It doesn't seem like their cup of tea.
H&I has a War Heroes block on Saturday nights that also includes Black Sheep Squadron, Tour of Duty, and Combat! In their streaming schedule, BSS is replaced by Renegade, and 12OCH by more Combat!

Ah, I didn't think to check YouTube. Which I should have, because I found some (low quality) episodes of Get Christie Love on there.
I used to post the videos in my reviews or discussions thereof at times.

True, they did write him off pretty quickly. Did they give any reason for it?
Not that I recall, they just played like he was assumed to have been killed in the explosion, with no confirmation.

What was 1984?
Seven years after the pilot movie in which David "died".

A lost opportunity, especially given the way the show seems to be developing.
They couldn't make it too easy for the potential future of the show.

I don't think I even knew there was a Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon.
It aired on the CW in 2006-2008. I mentioned that I was revisiting it a bit back.

Yeah, I wouldn't call Spidey Super-Stories mainstream.
It definitely didn't take place in the main continuity; i.e., it wasn't "canon," as folks in these parts like to say.

And I always thought it was weird that they used a word so strongly associated with the Delightful Competition in the title. :rommie:
Well, Marvel did use the terms "super-hero" and "super-villain," including in the titles of some of their books; e.g., Marvel Super-Heroes, Super-Villain Team-Up, and Marvel Super Action.
 
Prof. Julian Reed (soon-to-be Substitute Artie, Special Guest Star Charles Aidman)
He was pretty cool.

Pat (soon-to-be Romulan commander Joanne Linville)
I'm not sure if I've ever seen her in anything else, although she probably is pretty unrecognizable.

who's uncomfortable talking about her husband's state of sanity
Unlike most wives. :rommie:

He then visits the hospital ward, where Julian seems completely lucid
The Slaton Research Center must do quite a variety of research if they have a hospital ward that's credentialed to treat fall victims and inpatient mental health care. :rommie:

that his visions were induced by a "dream machine";
There's a good reason to ask for a transfer.

the machine in question, which monitors brain activity while a subject is dreaming and wakes them at the moment that they'll have total recall of their dream.
A legitimate research tool, although probably exaggerated here.

He tells David of how Julian was using it nightly, but a malfunction was preventing him from dreaming, which drove him to his state of mind.
Not an unreasonable possibility.

David takes an opportunity to use a small device in the lab to detect a heartbeat from Brower.
Presumably this was deliberately set up by Brower to throw David off.

David picks up Pat at the Center, where she also works, to try to persuade her to visit her husband.
Why was she not visiting him?

After telling David of a childhood incident in which her grandfather went berserk on her
Apropos of nothing, apparently....

Then he has a vision of David with an extended pinky and accuses him of being an alien, getting so worked up that he has to be restrained by an attendant.
This kind of anticipates the "recovered memory" debacle.

one of the dogs gets loose and attacks the guard in question
Very convenient. :rommie:

The dog proceeds to chase the guard, who disintegrates right after conveniently rounding a corner so that nobody sees.
"Must... get out... of sight...."

David questions Frankie about something strange that he saw--kooky-looking people with strange machinery at a closed-for-the-season pier amusement park
They should have done more with this. Closed amusement parks are always cool. :rommie:

David proceeds to snoop around the park (Pacific Ocean Park in Santa Monica, natch), and soon finds himself pursued by a gun-toting combination of conventionally uniformed security guards and uniformed them. He shoots one of them into glowing up, then dives into the drink to make a getaway.
That kinda went nowhere, though.

Damp David
Presidented. If intentional. :rommie:

David's reputation precedes him in this company, who start ribbing him.
"Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Haha. Get it?"

He offers to show them proof if they'll come to the amusement park, but they decline and disperse.
He should know by now that it would all be gone.

Pat's project--an electromagnetic propulsion engine that's theorized by the Believers to be what they use--is going to be canceled based on her report; and David questions if the reports are being tampered with before they get to Washington.
Aha. They have a plan that makes sense. :rommie:

As a suitcase-carrying David
He has belongings? :rommie:

David is taken to the Center and hooked up to the dream machine
"Did the patient sign a consent form, Dr Brower?"
"Yeah, sure, get out of here."

The weak link in the chain turns out to be Chekhov's Secretary, Mrs. Fielding (Lisabeth Field), who got a low-key introduction in an earlier scene
Nice twist. They seem to have played the audience well with that one.

she won't get in the elevator when she sees an occupant displaying The Pinky
Who's that? They seem to have left at least one alien unaccounted for by the end.

Mrs. Fielding arrives, but she's quickly followed by Slaton, Scoville, and a security guard, the latter of whom shoots the gun-toting secretary and FIND-brandishing psychologist into red glowiness.
Was David awake, or did he sleep through the whole finale? :rommie:

a freighter that witnessed and retrieved debris from what the Air Force wrote off as a meteor colliding with a satellite.
Never touch space junk. It could be dangerously radioactive.

a going-ashore second mate (Mark Allen) who offers that it didn't look like a collision at all
"It looked like a flying saucer that was shot down by a pirate radio station."

It quickly becomes apparent that the shipment he's interested in was uncut drugs.
"We're lookin' for junk and it ain't from space."

David speculates that they must have taken Kalter's shipment along with the cargo that they were interested in.
Unintentionally, or do They use recreational drugs? :rommie:

he's persuaded for the sake of his life to spill the beans, eliciting the expected reaction.
"I suppose they're purple and eat people, right?"

The guys are taken outside, but the execution turns out to be a bluff to verify that they don't know where the shipment is.
Interesting.

When everyone returns to the room, they find Scoville and several state troopers.
Who are evidently damn good at sneaking up on abandoned motels. :rommie:

This motivates Kalter to pursue the angle of teaming up with David.
Kind of funny that it's Kalter who initiates the teamup.

Then Kalter shows up at Scoville's office, and emboldened by Scoville, David naively insists that if the narcotics are found, they'll have to be thrown in the river.
"Here's your death warrant. Sign here and initial here."

They're followed by a phony motorcycle cop who ends up tossing a grenade into the back, which results in the truck overturning and catching fire.
It doesn't seem like that would destroy saucer fragments.

David pulls Kalter out of the burning cab.
"You owe me your life. I'm exempt from being dropped in the river now."

Dom resists and makes a break for it. He's shot in the back, glowing up and leaving a spot on the carpet before everyone's eyes.
"I wish everybody would do that."

an alien representative named Dorcas (soon-to-be father of Vulcan philosophy and later vampire Barry "B. G." Atwater)
That's two episodes in a row.

David's taken to a natural history museum
Oh, that's nice.

where they roll out the crate of drugs while surrounding Kalter and his men.
Never mind.

a little reverse-psychology guilting from David motivates Kalter to turn and shoot Dorcas.
That's kinda cool.

The resulting gunfight results in lots of glow-ups as well as the shooting of Kalter's men
With hopefully no damage to the exhibits!

with only David and Kalter walking away--David saving Kalter again by warning him of the last alien trying to sneak up on him.
"That's two, so seriously, no bumping me off."

Kalter is found dead at the same restaurant, having left the organization in, as he'd previously told David, the only way possible.
Poetic justice. That's a pretty good ending, and episode.

In the teaser / untitled prolog, David mentions having flown in on Scoville's jet, so he's definitely enjoying some perks from this association.
He's great at moving the plot along, but borders on Deus Ex Machina sometimes.

H&I has a War Heroes block on Saturday nights that also includes Black Sheep Squadron, Tour of Duty, and Combat! In their streaming schedule, BSS is replaced by Renegade, and 12OCH by more Combat!
Oh, I meant Room 222. Looking back, you thought I meant 12 O'Clock High.

I used to post the videos in my reviews or discussions thereof at times.
I kinda recall that.

Not that I recall, they just played like he was assumed to have been killed in the explosion, with no confirmation.
There was a lot less red tape in those days. :rommie:

Seven years after the pilot movie in which David "died".
Ah, right, when he should have been declared legally dead.

They couldn't make it too easy for the potential future of the show.
I was thinking that the station would have a certain range, which would create a safe zone. Then one goal would be to set up more stations across the world.

It aired on the CW in 2006-2008. I mentioned that I was revisiting it a bit back.
Ah, right.

It definitely didn't take place in the main continuity; i.e., it wasn't "canon," as folks in these parts like to say.
Folks like me. :rommie:

Well, Marvel did use the terms "super-hero" and "super-villain," including in the titles of some of their books; e.g., Marvel Super-Heroes, Super-Villain Team-Up, and Marvel Super Action.
True enough. Maybe just seeing it so closely associated with Spidey's name was weird.
 
I'm not sure if I've ever seen her in anything else, although she probably is pretty unrecognizable.
She's definitely popped up here before, and I find her quite distinctive in look and voice. You may have seen her in things like The Twilight Zone and Route 66.

The Slaton Research Center must do quite a variety of research if they have a hospital ward that's credentialed to treat fall victims and inpatient mental health care. :rommie:
The hospital wasn't at the Center.

Presumably this was deliberately set up by Brower to throw David off.
I don't know if the device was, but he had found some way to fake a heartbeat.

Why was she not visiting him?
Apropos of nothing, apparently....
Her crazy grandpa issues were supposed to explain why she didn't want to see Julian.

Presidented. If intentional. :rommie:
Yep.

Who's that? They seem to have left at least one alien unaccounted for by the end.
Just some alien in the elevator. Brower had called his people ahead.

Was David awake, or did he sleep through the whole finale? :rommie:
He was hooked up in the machine for the action, revived in time for the cut to commercial.

Unintentionally, or do They use recreational drugs? :rommie:
Unintentionally.

"Here's your death warrant. Sign here and initial here."
Kalter's higher-ups didn't even need half an excuse to off David once they'd gotten what they wanted; they were taking it as a given.

That's two episodes in a row.
With guests who went on the wear pointy ears?

With hopefully no damage to the exhibits!
Not that I noticed.

He's great at moving the plot along, but borders on Deus Ex Machina sometimes.
Yeah, he's a plot contrivance machina.

Oh, I meant Room 222. Looking back, you thought I meant 12 O'Clock High.
Ah, that explains it. I was wondering when you'd developed such a fondness for 12OCH. :lol:

I don't know much about R222, but if it were to pop up on a Weigel network, it'd probably be MeTV+.
 
She's definitely popped up here before, and I find her quite distinctive in look and voice. You may have seen her in things like The Twilight Zone and Route 66.
More likely Twilight Zone, since I've seen more of them, but I don't remember.

The hospital wasn't at the Center.
Oh, okay. It sounded like he was in their medical wing or something.

Her crazy grandpa issues were supposed to explain why she didn't want to see Julian.
Cool. That actually makes sense then.

Just some alien in the elevator. Brower had called his people ahead.
"They're everywhere."

He was hooked up in the machine for the action, revived in time for the cut to commercial.
"Wake up, David."
"Hmm? No, Pat, we mustn't... Julian will find out...."
"Hey, what?!"

Kalter's higher-ups didn't even need half an excuse to off David once they'd gotten what they wanted; they were taking it as a given.
True, that's kind of SOP.

With guests who went on the wear pointy ears?
Indeed. Not just Trek guests, but pointy-eared Trek guests.

Ah, that explains it. I was wondering when you'd developed such a fondness for 12OCH. :lol:
Check for pods. :rommie: I don't know if I've ever even seen a full episode of any of those war shows. I remember seeing fragments of 12 O'Clock High and Rat Patrol, and possibly Combat, back in the 60s because my uncles used to watch them, but that's about it.

I don't know much about R222, but if it were to pop up on a Weigel network, it'd probably be MeTV+.
Which Comcast does not provide, of course. MeTV and Cozi are about it, I think.
 


50 Years Ago This Week

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July 18
  • Nadia Comăneci of Romania became the first gymnast in Olympic history to receive a perfect score (10.00), after being judged perfect in her performance on the uneven parallel bars as part of the compulsory gymnastics exercises event, and went on to win the first of six gold medals. The opinion of the judges was protested by the Soviet gymnastics team, without success. The 14-year-old prodigy of the gymnastics school of Béla Károlyi would achieve six more perfect scores and gold medals before the games concluded.

July 19
  • The International Olympic Committee announced that 17 African nations were withdrawing their teams from the 1976 Summer Olympics in Montreal, and that 465 athletes had either vacated the Olympic Village quarters or were making final plans to do so. The boycott, made two days after the Olympic games had gotten underway, came after the IOC refused to expel the New Zealand Olympic team as a response to New Zealand's hosting of a tour of the Springboks rugby league team from South Africa.
  • The Soviet Union placed a super-carrier ship in the Mediterranean Sea for the first time as the Kiev, its largest naval vessel up to that time, passed through the straits of Bosporus and the Dardanelles.
  • Fencer Boris Onischenko of the Soviet Union Olympic team, a silver medalist in the 1972 Olympic modern pentathlon, was disqualified after it was discovered that he was using an electronic device within his épée sword to register a point whether the sword struck his opponent or not. The cheating was discovered when his opponent, Jeremy Fox of Great Britain, leaped out of the way of Onischenko's thrust and a score was registered anyway.

July 20
  • The Viking 1 lander successfully landed on Mars at 11:53:06 UTC (7:53 a.m. Eastern time), touching down at Chryse Planitia after a descent from the Viking orbiter more than three hours earlier. The lander, the first U.S. craft to land on Mars, transmitted the first-ever pictures from the surface. Chemical analysis of the Martian atmosphere showed "a small component of nitrogen".
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  • U.S. baseball player Hank Aaron, holder of the record for most career home runs in Major League Baseball since breaking the record of Babe Ruth in 1974, hit the 755th and final home run of his career, playing for the Milwaukee Brewers at home against the California Angels. He retired at the end of the 1976 season. Aaron's MLB record of 755 would stand for 31 years until broken on August 7, 2007, by Barry Bonds of the San Francisco Giants.
  • American criminal Gary Gilmore was arrested after murdering two Brigham Young University students in separate incidents in Utah. He would later become the first person in the United States to be executed after the restoration of the death penalty.
  • The United States withdrew its last combat troops from Thailand and Indochina after 26 years. U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant George Leroy Davis, designated by the U.S. Air Force to be the last combat soldier, boarded a Cathay Pacific airliner with his wife and two children, and departed at 10:30 in the morning. About 250 American military advisers remained as part of a military aid agreement between the U.S. and Thailand. At the height of the American presence in Thailand, 48,000 troops were stationed in 93 installations around the Asian kingdom.

July 21
  • A bomb placed by the Irish Republican Army killed Christopher Ewart-Biggs, the British Ambassador to Ireland, as well as his secretary, Judith Cooke.
  • The first ever color photographs of Mars were transmitted from the Viking 1 lander the day after its arrival on the planet, and confirmed that the soil and rocks were a reddish color, similar to rust. The more surprising discovery was that the sky on Mars was light blue, which American scientists believed was from a high amount of dust and water vapor in the thin Martian atmosphere.

July 22
  • Japan made its last payment of war reparations to the Philippines for its actions during World War II. On May 9, 1956, Japan had signed an agreement to make payments for 20 years to the Philippine government for 198 billion Japanese yen, equivalent to $550,000,000.

July 24
  • A 20-year-old park ranger at the Kings Island Lion Country Safari wildlife preserve in Ohio was killed by a lion. John McCann was found more than 15 feet away from his vehicle, having gotten out while on duty.



Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Kiss and Say Goodbye," The Manhattans
2. "Afternoon Delight," Starland Vocal Band
3. "I'll Be Good to You," The Brothers Johnson
4. "Moonlight Feels Right," Starbuck
5. "Love Is Alive," Gary Wright
6. "Get Closer," Seals & Crofts (feat. Carolyn Willis)
7. "Got to Get You into My Life," The Beatles
8. "Don't Go Breaking My Heart," Elton John & Kiki Dee
9. "Rock and Roll Music," The Beach Boys
10. "Let Her In," John Travolta
11. "Take the Money and Run," Steve Miller Band
12. "The Boys Are Back in Town," Thin Lizzy
13. "If You Know What I Mean," Neil Diamond
14. "Shop Around," Captain & Tennille
15. "You Should Be Dancing," Bee Gees
16. "Tear the Roof Off the Sucker (Give Up the Funk)," Parliament
17. "You're My Best Friend," Queen
18. "Turn the Beat Around," Vicki Sue Robinson
19. "Let 'em In," Wings
20. "More More More, Pt. 1," Andrea True Connection
21. "I'm Easy," Keith Carradine
22. "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine," Lou Rawls
23. "This Masquerade," George Benson
24. "Last Child," Aerosmith
25. "I Need to Be in Love," Carpenters
26. "Young Hearts Run Free," Candi Staton

28. "Baby, I Love Your Way," Peter Frampton
29. "Misty Blue," Dorothy Moore
30. "I'd Really Love to See You Tonight," England Dan & John Ford Coley
31. "Something He Can Feel," Aretha Franklin
32. "A Fifth of Beethoven," Walter Murphy & The Big Apple Band
33. "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel," Tavares
34. "Silly Love Songs," Wings
35. "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again," Eric Carmen

37. "Sara Smile," Daryl Hall & John Oates

39. "Get Up and Boogie (That's Right)," Silver Convention

41. "Who'd She Coo?," Ohio Players
42. "A Little Bit More," Dr. Hook
43. "Say You Love Me," Fleetwood Mac
44. "(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty," KC & The Sunshine Band
45. "Summer," War
46. "It Keeps You Runnin'," Carly Simon
47. "Play That Funky Music," Wild Cherry

53. "Shower the People," James Taylor
54. "Wham Bam Shang-a-Lang," Silver
55. "Getaway," Earth, Wind & Fire
56. "Lowdown," Boz Scaggs
57. "Devil Woman," Cliff Richard
58. "Today's the Day," America

64. "Love Hangover," Diana Ross

67. "Teddy Bear," Red Sovine

69. "With Your Love," Jefferson Starship

73. "She's Gone," Daryl Hall & John Oates


77. "Ode to Billie Joe," Bobbie Gentry
78. "I Never Cry," Alice Cooper

84. "Magic Man," Heart

96. "Hot Stuff" / "Fool to Cry," The Rolling Stones
97. "Making Our Dreams Come True," Cyndi Grecco

Leaving the chart:
  • "I Want You," Marvin Gaye (13 weeks)
  • "Mamma Mia," ABBA (9 weeks)
  • "Movin'," Brass Construction (16 weeks)
  • "Save Your Kisses for Me," Brotherhood of Man (11 weeks)
  • "Takin' It to the Streets," The Doobie Brothers (14 weeks)

Re-entering the chart:

"She's Gone," Daryl Hall & John Oates
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(#7 US; #6 AC; #93 R&B; #42 UK; originally charted in 1974, reaching #60 US)


New on the chart:

"Teddy Bear," Red Sovine
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(#40 US; #1 Country)

"With Your Love," Jefferson Starship
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(#12 US; #6 AC)


And new on the boob tube:
  • NBC's Saturday Night, Season 1, episode 23, hosted by Louise Lasser



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month, with editing as needed.



More likely Twilight Zone, since I've seen more of them, but I don't remember.

The Route 66 episode is of special interest because her husband and son are Leslie Nielsen and Ronny Howard.
I recall this one coming up years back, but I'm not sure if it was in the Other Thread or the Trek Guest Actors thread.

In this thread, she would've come up in a Season 1 Invaders episode as a different character; and a few early H5Os as a couple of different characters.

"Wake up, David."
"Hmm? No, Pat, we mustn't... Julian will find out...."
"Hey, what?!"
:D Julian wasn't there, FWIW.

I don't know if I've ever even seen a full episode of any of those war shows.
That's exactly what I was wondering about 12OCH.

Which Comcast does not provide, of course. MeTV and Cozi are about it, I think.
I just made an interesting discovery today. After all this fussing over my expiring Invaders recordings, it turns out that MeTV+ is running the series in an early morning weekday slot. I don't know how long they've been doing this, and they happen to be right about where I'm at. It escaped my attention because for some reason I don't seem to be recording the MeTV+ episodes; though the way Frndly recording works, if you record all episodes of a series, it will usually include airings from multiple channels if applicable.
 
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So mundane, and yet amazing beyond belief.

Nadia Comăneci of Romania became the first gymnast in Olympic history to receive a perfect score (10.00)
I had a bit of a crush on her. When my friend and I made a comic book, I created a character named The Gymnast, based on her. :rommie:

The Soviet Union placed a super-carrier ship in the Mediterranean Sea for the first time as the Kiev, its largest naval vessel up to that time, passed through the straits of Bosporus and the Dardanelles.
The crew were heard yelling from the guardrails, "This is Antarctica, no?"

Fencer Boris Onischenko of the Soviet Union Olympic team, a silver medalist in the 1972 Olympic modern pentathlon, was disqualified after it was discovered that he was using an electronic device within his épée sword to register a point whether the sword struck his opponent or not.
Boris has been watching too much Mission: Impossible. :rommie:

The Viking 1 lander successfully landed on Mars at 11:53:06 UTC (7:53 a.m. Eastern time), touching down at Chryse Planitia after a descent from the Viking orbiter more than three hours earlier. The lander, the first U.S. craft to land on Mars, transmitted the first-ever pictures from the surface. Chemical analysis of the Martian atmosphere showed "a small component of nitrogen".
Both Viking 1 and 2 performed tests for the presence of life. The results were ambiguous then-- and are even more ambiguous now. :rommie:

American criminal Gary Gilmore was arrested after murdering two Brigham Young University students in separate incidents in Utah.
This name rings a bell.

The first ever color photographs of Mars were transmitted from the Viking 1 lander the day after its arrival on the planet, and confirmed that the soil and rocks were a reddish color, similar to rust.
Because that's exactly what it is.

"She's Gone," Daryl Hall & John Oates
Good one. Strong nostalgic value. This was a very different Hall & Oates from what they became in the 80s.

"Teddy Bear," Red Sovine
Good Grief. Layin' it on a bit thick there, Red. :rommie:

"With Your Love," Jefferson Starship
Good one. Strong nostalgic value. This was a good period for Starship, and also very different from their 80s work.

I have seen that episode, but probably only once or twice. I'm not sure if I would have made the connection without already knowing.

The Route 66 episode is of special interest because her husband and son are Leslie Nielsen and Ronny Howard.
I recall this one coming up years back, but I'm not sure if it was in the Other Thread or the Trek Guest Actors thread.
I don't recall talking about it, but of course that means nothing. :rommie: It looks good, though. I notice that it's one of the episodes not written by Stirling Silliphant.

:D Julian wasn't there, FWIW.
Aw, damn. :rommie:

That's exactly what I was wondering about 12OCH.
:rommie:

the way Frndly recording works, if you record all episodes of a series, it will usually include airings from multiple channels if applicable.
That's certainly a very useful feature.
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Invaders
"The Peacemaker"
Originally aired February 6, 1968
Frndly said:
When the Pentagon commissions David to set up peace talks with the invaders, the mission is jeopardized by both sides.

David and Colonel Archie Harmon (Lin McCarthy reprising his role from "Counter-Attack") bring a captured alien (Jan Merlin, I think) to a military facility and lock him up. But as they're bringing down General Samuel Arlington Concannon (Special Guest Star James Daly, almost unrecognizable sporting a Thaddeus Ross look), a junior offithem (Jack Bannon) slips a pill through the cell door window, which the handcuffed alien eats off the floor. As he glows up, the air policeman on guard (Ed Deemer) shoots Junior, who also glows up, this time before the general's eyes. Disintegration residue becomes a plot point again as the general gathers the ashes into an envelope for analysis.

The QM Narrator said:
For two years, David Vincent has been waging war on two fronts: one, against the alien invaders; the other, an attempt to enlist allies in high places while there is still time. Now, finally, with some help from friends in the military, David Vincent is opening the second front.

Harmon is abducted in a parking garage by a pair of them who want their captured man back. Archie produces the envelope with the remains of the inside man who would have informed them of the prisoner's death. They take the colonel back to his apartment, unaware that David and Scoville are waiting for him there. Harmon makes some noise in the hall to alert them, so that the stunt doubles can get a jump on the alien agents. David's brawl with one inside the apartment ends in shooting the alien into glowing up; while the second alien slugs Harmon in the hall and gets away. Archie reports that the remains were only cellulose fibers, then brings David with him to see Concannon, who says that he's consulted with the president and declares that the government knows about the threat and is looking to take action. The general questions his guests about their military strength, then reveals his angle--wanting to negotiate with them to reach an agreement to help them settle on Earth peaceably. But his leverage is to threaten them with a doomsday device that would go off in the event of an invasion. David proceeds to track down the escaped alien (Willard [Craig Huebing], I think) and talk to him from behind a gun; while Concannon, while hinting at ulterior motives that Archie's in on, takes Harmon to his home. The general becomes concerned to learn from his wife, Sarah (Phyllis Thaxter, who'll become known for raising a more benevolent and less vulnerable alien), that he's been talking in his sleep about Armageddon. Things take a dark turn when, after Archie exits for the dining room with the Concannons' teenage son, Billy (Pat Cardi), the general threateningly chastises his wife for making an offhand comment that he's getting too old for his work.

Concannon next brings everyone's old friend Edgar to his office to question him about options for building such a doomsday device; but Scoville isn't comfortable with the notion of a machine that could automatically destroy the world. Meanwhile, after an offscreen incident that could have been a deleted scene, the alien has gotten the better of David and has the invasion leader (Alfred Ryder, who's clearly signaled to be playing the same character as in his previous appearance) brought to a Virginia farmhouse hideout to talk with Vincent. Justifying a concern of David and Archie's, Willard tries to warn the leader that this could be a tactic to expose and unite the world against them. But the leader sends David to arrange things and has Willard tail him as he's picked up by Scoville and taken to Concannon's home, where the general and colonel discuss their shared history together at Bataan. During the ride, Ed shares another bit of revelatory history, telling David of how Concannon tried to scapegoat him for a human error-caused rocket launch explosion that killed two astronauts. Ed drops David off, following which Willard continues to tail his car.

As Concannon's sitting down to discuss developments with David and Archie, he has a violent reaction to the lobster he's eating and declares that he's been poisoned. While the general's recovering in bed, a house call-making Dr. Bill Jacobs (Larry Thor) confirms that it was a deliberate poisoning; though David doesn't believe that they're responsible, not seeing why they'd try to kill the general in such a manner. David goes back to see the leader, whom he now addresses by name as Mr. Ryder, and gets the meeting back on, calling Concannon to make arrangements. When the general's alone with his wife, he accuses her of poisoning him, and she admits it, claiming that she was trying to nonlethally derail the meeting after hearing in bed what he planned to do there. Billy expresses concern for what he's overheard of his parents' confrontation.

In his office, the general assembles his delegation for the meeting, which includes Scoville, a General Cullenbine (Byron Keith), and a couple of others. He arranges for the party to rendezvous at the farmhouse the next day and gives them sealed orders to be opened then. Scoville expresses concern, but Concannon asserts that he's acting under orders. When he's alone with Harmon, Concannon makes a call to arrange a practice bombing run with the colonel at the same time as the meeting; then makes a recording for posterity explaining why he's sacrificing some good people to destroy the alien menace that threatens their country. Archie exhibits secthe general opens his door to reveal a guard outside. Harmon proceeds to accompany the general in his car. After Concannon says goodbye to his family, David catches up with them, and the general promises to pick him up for the meeting later. Afterward he expresses his relief to Archie that the "fine boy" won't have to be killed with the others.

As Concannon and Harmon are taking off in an unconvincing-looking B-52 cockpit (I'm pretty sure those things run on more than two crew), Sarah tells David that Archie filled her in on the plan and wanted her to have David get the delegation away from the farmhouse. But Scoville has already left and the aliens don't have a phone, so he races there by car with the Concannon family. Sarah explains to Billy how his father, who hasn't really been working with the president, has to be stopped from killing his friends and starting a war. In the air, the general learns of how Archie's turned on him, and when Harmon tries to warn him of the consequences of alien retaliation, the general clubs the colonel with his pistol and proceeds to fly the mission solo. David and company reach the farmhouse, where Ed has arrived awkwardly early, and secures Ryder's permission to use the radio in their ubiquitous van outside. David puts on Sarah, who tries unsuccessfully to talk her husband down. David then apologizes to her for having no other choice, given the potential local casualties, and asks Ryder about his options for taking down the bomber. Ryder calls in a saucer, and a revived Archie smiles at the sight of the unexpected cavalry, which uses a ray to blow up the jet within sight of the farm and Concannon's family.

In the Epilog, David and Scoville's pleas with a departing Ryder to be open to arranging more legitimate talks are met with cynicism.

The QM Narrator said:
David Vincent returns to his war against the invader. He returns to his search for another day and another place where the powers from both sides will meet again and an armistice will become a reality.

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The Invaders
"The Vise"
Originally aired February 20, 1968
Frndly said:
Racial feelings create problems for David, who tries to convince a Senate investigator that a nominee for a space program post is an invader.

David and Scoville are staking out a service station that they believe to be the contact point for an invader. When their suspect (William Gehrig [Austin Willis]) pulls in as a customer and hands the station attendant (Red Boyd Morgan) a briefcase, David follows the latter into the garage while Scoville keeps an eye on Gehrig. Inside, a scuffle ensues over the case in which the attendant glows up, setting a pile of rags that the case falls into on fire. Gehrig takes off when Scoville blocks him from interfering. Going through the charred papers in the case, which are in code, both believers recognize a photo of Arnold Warren (Roscoe Lee Browne), who's been nominated to head a tracking station for the space program, which could be used for the invaders' purposes.

The QM Narrator said:
For two days, a Senate subcommittee has been meeting to consider the nomination of a man named Arnold Warren for an important post in the international space program. David Vincent has reason to believe that Warren is an alien. He has 24 hours to prove it.

In L.A. posing as Washington with the help of establishing shots of the Capitol, David sees the subcommittee's investigator, James A. Baxter (Raymond St. Jacques), wanting background info on Warren from the report that Baxter's supposed to turn in the next day. Along the way, David meets Baxter's wife, Celia (Janet MacLachlan), and young son Michael (Pepe Brown). Baxter is skeptical of David's suspicion that Warren's background is phony, but takes interest when David points out that Warren claims to have served in the 101st on D-Day, a unit that wasn't integrated until after years the war. Baxter later confronts Warren about this with Gehrig present, but Warren dismissively claims to have been a cook who saw some action. (Do paratroopers bring cooks with them when they parachute behind enemy lines?)

After David reports to Scoville by payphone, Gehrig and an accomplice try to run him over. At home that night, Baxter pores over his report, while Celia notes that the post would be an important achievement for a black man (the episode uses the then-considered-polite other n-word), and that their son needs heroes. David drops in and begs Baxter to meet with him and Scoville the next morning. Baxter is initially dismissive, but silently considers the offer afterward. The next day, Scoville, who attends the meeting from Syracuse via closed-circuit TV, tells Baxter of an incident when Warren was working in South America and was the one of several survivors of an accident, but the only one who didn't bleed. Baxter takes interest in a photo of Warren with his hand raised, discovering another tell for certain invaders--his palms aren't lighter than the rest of his skin.

While Baxter delays the hearings and questions Warren's humanity, David assumes the alias of Bob Tobin to pay a call on the elderlyman who's supposed to be Warren's father (Joel Fluellen), following which he's questioned by a couple of police officers. David takes in the black officer's palms and struggles with him over his gun, resulting in the officer glowing up. At the Baxter home, when Jim voices various discrepancies in Warren's background, Celia accuses him of being harder on Warren because of his skin color, and Jim describes how he has to work twice as hard to be seen as a respectable member of the community. Running from the police, David slips into a seedy bar run by a guy named Ollie (Louis Gossett) to use the phone. He tries to call Baxter about the trouble he's in, but Celia answers and hangs up on him.

As them police comb the neighborhood, David hides out in the bar and Ollie becomes wary, prepping his gun. Gehrig arranges for a regen van to be brought in as the hearings are now running up against Warren's timetable. Jim, who's been expecting a call from David, finds the phone off the hook, assumes that Michael is responsible, and slips out with his gun. Brandishing his firearm under a towel, Ollie bids David to split, not wanting trouble with the cops. David confesses to having killed a cop and asks Ollie to call the station house so that reporters will come to the scene. Ollie's doing so as two of them policeman come in and start searching the place. He learns on the phone that them police are phony and intervenes when they find and frisk David, which the crowd also objects to. Ollie lets David leave and an exchange of fire ensues in which one of them officers is wounded. The officer manages to stumble out the back after Celia screeches up to give David a ride, and glows up before her eyes. David takes the wheel and gets away as the other them cop fires at the car.

David takes Celia to the TV studio where Warren's to give a speech and finds Jim just before the regen van pulls in. As the aliens hook up power lines, Celia voluntarily goes into the studio posing as a columnist to delay Warren, but he recognizes her. Jim and David overcome the van them, then come to Celia's rescue as she's being taken outside. Jim ends up shooting Warren as he's stumbling to the van, and then one of them who's in a brawl with David. Both glow up, while Gehrig takes off in the van with a power line dragging behind him. As onlookers gather, Jim flashes his badge.

In the Epilog, David departs as Jim's about to testify about Warren before the subcommittee.

The QM Narrator said:
James A. Baxter, special investigator for a Senate subcommittee--a formidable ally for David Vincent, who will join the battle against an alien race...the invader from the sky.

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And this catches us up to where I'm at now viewing-wise.



50th Anniversary Midnight Special



July 16, 1976
Hosted by Helen Reddy
Featuring Elvin Bishop; Kiki Dee; Elton John; B.B. King...and Doris Day...Matt Busby!...; Gladys Knight & The Pips; Flora Purim; Salute to Harry Chapin

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This clip's YouTube page has an out-of-order list of performances, but no clickable index. Gladys & The Pips are first up.

Kiki & Elton appear via music video, which is said to have been taped specifically for TMS. It appears to be a different take/edit of the same video that I'd previously posted from Elton's account, shot in the same location and outfits but cut differently.

The salute appears in the usual place, 23 minutes in.



Also 50 years go this week:

Recent in comics biz...Black and Blue may not be the Stones at the height of their powers, but it got them in the funny books:

So mundane, and yet amazing beyond belief.
Nothing mundane about it, though I suppose that it could be taken for a shot of an Earth desert.

I was vaguely aware of all of this happening at the time, but was too young to appreciate its significance.

The crew were heard yelling from the guardrails, "This is Antarctica, no?"
"Tell us, where do we find Skipper and Little Buddy?"

Both Viking 1 and 2 performed tests for the presence of life. The results were ambiguous then-- and are even more ambiguous now. :rommie:
This NASA documentary gets into some of that. It's from before the landing and doesn't cover the pictures or actual findings.
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Because that's exactly what it is.
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Good one. Strong nostalgic value. This was a very different Hall & Oates from what they became in the 80s.
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Good Grief. Layin' it on a bit thick there, Red. :rommie:
I don't have this one and it's digging a bit deeper chart-wise than I normally do, but I have some memory of it from the day, and my parents were all into the CB craze at the time.

Good one. Strong nostalgic value.
It has a pleasant sound, but isn't terribly distinctive among their hits from this period.

This was a good period for Starship, and also very different from their 80s work.
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An all-too-appropriate recent nod to the song:
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That's certainly a very useful feature.
For instance, when I'm recording a season of Emergency!, it will record airings on MeTV and FeTV; when recording MTM, it will record airings on Catchy and UPtv when it's playing the series in its apparently rotating daily lineup.

Possibly the MeTV+ airings of The Invaders aren't recording because I set it to record when they weren't showing the series. I honestly don't know. I'm so close to the end that it's not worth resetting the recordings at this point.
 
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Colonel Archie Harmon (Lin McCarthy reprising his role from "Counter-Attack")
Another recurring character!

a junior offithem
:rommie:

(Jack Bannon)
I think this was the straight-laced guy from Lou Grant.

slips a pill through the cell door window, which the handcuffed alien eats off the floor.
"Quick! Five-second rule!"

Disintegration residue becomes a plot point again
Has there been residue before?

Harmon is abducted in a parking garage by a pair of them who want their captured man back. Archie produces the envelope
"Here you go." :rommie:

David's brawl with one inside the apartment ends in shooting the alien into glowing up
Apparently unnoticed by neighbors.

Archie reports that the remains were only cellulose fibers
Definitely check for pods.

wanting to negotiate with them to reach an agreement to help them settle on Earth peaceably.
Bad idea.

But his leverage is to threaten them with a doomsday device that would go off in the event of an invasion.
Super duper bad idea.

Sarah (Phyllis Thaxter, who'll become known for raising a more benevolent and less vulnerable alien)
Ma Kent, I'm guessing?

he's been talking in his sleep about Armageddon.
"She's that stripper, isn't she?"

the general threateningly chastises his wife for making an offhand comment that he's getting too old for his work.
Although that seems to go nowhere.

Scoville isn't comfortable with the notion of a machine that could automatically destroy the world.
Thank you, Scoville.

the invasion leader (Alfred Ryder, who's clearly signaled to be playing the same character as in his previous appearance)
I like this, although it's weird to have the invasion leader just hanging around like some run-of-the-mill space alien.

But the leader sends David to arrange things
Interesting that Fearless Leader seems genuinely interested in negotiating.

the general and colonel discuss their shared history together at Bataan.
Nice little character bit, making the general more sympathetic.

Ed shares another bit of revelatory history, telling David of how Concannon tried to scapegoat him for a human error-caused rocket launch explosion that killed two astronauts.
Making him somewhat less sympathetic.

When the general's alone with his wife, he accuses her of poisoning him, and she admits it
Nice little Red Lobster. I mean Herring.

Concannon makes a call to arrange a practice bombing run with the colonel at the same time as the meeting; then makes a recording for posterity explaining why he's sacrificing some good people to destroy the alien menace that threatens their country.
Okay, this plan makes sense, but why did he bring a Doomsday Weapon into it? That would only serve to make it harder to draw people in.

Afterward he expresses his relief to Archie that the "fine boy" won't have to be killed with the others.
Aww. They're actually doing a good job of portraying the general as a complex and conflicted character.

As Concannon and Harmon are taking off in an unconvincing-looking B-52 cockpit (I'm pretty sure those things run on more than two crew)
Maybe it's that shapeshifter that Steve Austin flies around in.

the aliens don't have a phone
They can't phone home? :(

so he races there by car with the Concannon family
I can kind of understand that she would be willing to put herself at risk, but I don't see her bringing the kid along. It's hard enough to believe that she would be willing to risk leaving him an orphan.

his father, who hasn't really been working with the president
Which calls into doubt how many in the government really know about the invasion.

when Harmon tries to warn him of the consequences of alien retaliation, the general clubs the colonel with his pistol
"Retaliate this, you milquetoast!"

Ed has arrived awkwardly early
I'm notorious for this. :rommie:

David puts on Sarah, who tries unsuccessfully to talk her husband down.
Now that's something, if he knows both she and the kid are there.

David then apologizes to her for having no other choice, given the potential local casualties, and asks Ryder about his options for taking down the bomber. Ryder calls in a saucer, and a revived Archie smiles at the sight of the unexpected cavalry, which uses a ray to blow up the jet within sight of the farm and Concannon's family.
Wow, that's quite a finale. And an overall above-average episode.

David and Scoville are staking out a service station that they believe to be the contact point for an invader.
Scoville's getting down in the trenches.

Arnold Warren (Roscoe Lee Browne)
Logan's Run, Soap, and a billion other things. Quite a voice.

and young son
What is it with all the kids lately? :rommie:

(Do paratroopers bring cooks with them when they parachute behind enemy lines?)
"Other duties as assigned."

At home that night, Baxter pores over his report, while Celia notes that the post would be an important achievement for a black man (the episode uses the then-considered-polite other n-word), and that their son needs heroes.
The Invaders is being all topical in 1968. Good for them.

Scoville, who attends the meeting from Syracuse via closed-circuit TV
"I call it a 'Zoom.' What do you think?"

Baxter takes interest in a photo of Warren with his hand raised, discovering another tell for certain invaders--his palms aren't lighter than the rest of his skin.
I wonder if Mel Brooks was watching. :rommie:

the elderlyman who's supposed to be Warren's father
Who relates that Warren died exactly one year ago today! :rommie:

when Jim voices various discrepancies in Warren's background, Celia accuses him of being harder on Warren because of his skin color, and Jim describes how he has to work twice as hard to be seen as a respectable member of the community.
They're really leaning into it.

a guy named Ollie (Louis Gossett)
Also everywhere in those days.

He tries to call Baxter about the trouble he's in, but Celia answers and hangs up on him.
"Chased by space aliens, right."

David confesses to having killed a cop and asks Ollie to call the station house so that reporters will come to the scene.
Might want to call the TV news directly.

He learns on the phone that them police are phony and intervenes when they find and frisk David
Good for Ollie.

The officer manages to stumble out the back after Celia screeches up to give David a ride, and glows up before her eyes.
Another deleted scene, or do we just assume she mulled it over?

Celia voluntarily goes into the studio posing as a columnist to delay Warren
She's a believer.

In the Epilog, David departs as Jim's about to testify about Warren before the subcommittee.
Another good episode. They're stepping things up.

And this catches us up to where I'm at now viewing-wise.
How many more to go?

Hosted by Helen Reddy
She's back!

Kiki & Elton appear via music video, which is said to have been taped specifically for TMS. It appears to be a different take/edit of the same video that I'd previously posted from Elton's account, shot in the same location and outfits but cut differently.
I'm pretty sure I saw this episode when it first aired.

Ah, those were the days.

Recent in comics biz...Black and Blue may not be the Stones at the height of their powers, but it got them in the funny books:
Weird. I had absolutely no knowledge of this whatsoever.

Nothing mundane about it, though I suppose that it could be taken for a shot of an Earth desert.
Right, exactly. A little color correction and it could be Hawaii or Antarctica or something.

"Tell us, where do we find Skipper and Little Buddy?"
:rommie:

:D

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Yep, exactly. That stuff is okay, but I prefer their 70s sound.

It has a pleasant sound, but isn't terribly distinctive among their hits from this period.
Definitely from the same batch as "Miracles."

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And same as with Hall & Oates, I like it but prefer the older stuff.

An all-too-appropriate recent nod to the song:
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Did you post that before? I've definitely seen it.

Possibly the MeTV+ airings of The Invaders aren't recording because I set it to record when they weren't showing the series. I honestly don't know. I'm so close to the end that it's not worth resetting the recordings at this point.
Good to know for the future, though.
 
Another recurring character!
Well, he recurred once....

I think this was the straight-laced guy from Lou Grant.
Never mind that, we've got the star coming up again...
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Has there been residue before?
The scorch marks have come up in-story before; this is the first time we've seen someone sweeping the ashes up as forensic evidence.

"Here you go." :rommie:
To clarify, they were asking him about the prisoner, he was handing them the go-between.

Apparently unnoticed by neighbors.
Yeah, and no silencer this time.

Ma Kent, I'm guessing?
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"She's that stripper, isn't she?"
:D

Although that seems to go nowhere.
This and other bits of business were clueing the audience in that the general was off-balance and bad news. But there was a bit of story business that my notes didn't get into that the general was about to be retired, which was a motivating factor in his actions.

I like this, although it's weird to have the invasion leader just hanging around like some run-of-the-mill space alien.
It took something big to call him in again.

Nice little Red Lobster. I mean Herring.
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Okay, this plan makes sense, but why did he bring a Doomsday Weapon into it? That would only serve to make it harder to draw people in.
An in-story red herring, I guess...something to make people think that he was serious and draw attention from what he was really up to.

Aww. They're actually doing a good job of portraying the general as a complex and conflicted character.
In this case, though, the moment was played in an ominous way, another signal that the general was a bit whack-a-doo.

They can't phone home? :(
They've got their van and saucers for that sort of thing, but they can't phone town. Or at least town can't phone them.

Which calls into doubt how many in the government really know about the invasion.
The takeaway from this episode's situation was that the general was acting on his own, he didn't have the government behind him as he was leading everyone involved to believe.

I'm notorious for this. :rommie:
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I'm the exact opposite.

Wow, that's quite a finale.
Cheesy effects, of course.

Scoville's getting down in the trenches.
I was surprised that he was so openly involved in the previous one. The importance of not identifying him to the invaders had been a plot point before.

Who relates that Warren died exactly one year ago today! :rommie:
The old man was played as being one of them, FWIW.

Another deleted scene, or do we just assume she mulled it over?
She discovered that Jim had left and taken his gun, which apparently caused her to take David's call more seriously.

How many more to go?
There are seven of them...no, four, including the one that I'm currently in the middle of.

She's back!
She mentions in the episode that it's her anniversary as host of The Midnight Special, so apparently it was seen as her regular gig.

Weird. I had absolutely no knowledge of this whatsoever.
It was in last month's DCs specifically.

Yep, exactly. That stuff is okay, but I prefer their 70s sound.
I'm actually okay with that one...they went on to worse in the mid-80s, but that's the first '80s H&O song that I think of.

And same as with Hall & Oates, I like it but prefer the older stuff.
You're kinder to this one than I. This was the sort of mid-80s music that eventually drove me back to the '60s.

Did you post that before? I've definitely seen it.
It was a recent commercial, in frequent rotation on either Frndly or the specific channels I was watching on Frndly...so you probably saw it on TV.
 
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Well, he recurred once....
The other guy recurred once and died. :rommie:

Never mind that, we've got the star coming up again...
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Nice!

The scorch marks have come up in-story before; this is the first time we've seen someone sweeping the ashes up as forensic evidence.
That's what I thought. And now there's evidence that they're plant based. Which probably contradicts things from earlier episodes, but I don't know.

To clarify, they were asking him about the prisoner, he was handing them the go-between.
I know, I just thought it was kind of a funny image. :rommie:

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A mere ten years later.

This and other bits of business were clueing the audience in that the general was off-balance and bad news. But there was a bit of story business that my notes didn't get into that the general was about to be retired, which was a motivating factor in his actions.
I guess not everybody looks forward to retirement. :rommie:

It took something big to call him in again.
He seems to be developing a personal relationship with David.

:D

In this case, though, the moment was played in an ominous way, another signal that the general was a bit whack-a-doo.
Ah, okay. Perhaps not as balanced a characterization as I thought.

The takeaway from this episode's situation was that the general was acting on his own, he didn't have the government behind him as he was leading everyone involved to believe.
Okay, I was wondering if David's activities had been making it up the food chain for the last two years, but I guess not.

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I'm the exact opposite.
:rommie:

Cheesy effects, of course.
Yeah, but I'm cool with that.

I was surprised that he was so openly involved in the previous one. The importance of not identifying him to the invaders had been a plot point before.
The concept seems to be evolving week to week.

The old man was played as being one of them, FWIW.
Ohhh....

She discovered that Jim had left and taken his gun, which apparently caused her to take David's call more seriously.
Okay, that makes sense.

There are seven of them...no, four, including the one that I'm currently in the middle of.
That's a shame. They're kind of ramping things up.

It was in last month's DCs specifically.
I'm surprised my friend didn't make a big deal out of it.

I'm actually okay with that one...they went on to worse in the mid-80s, but that's the first '80s H&O song that I think of.
I can't even think of any others off the top of my head. I know I only have their 70s stuff in my MP3 folder.

You're kinder to this one than I. This was the sort of mid-80s music that eventually drove me back to the '60s.
Heh. I actually do like that one. There was actually a local Boston version where one of the local DJs did the spoken word part. I forget who it was though.

It was a recent commercial, in frequent rotation on either Frndly or the specific channels I was watching on Frndly...so you probably saw it on TV.
That's not impossible, but I feel like somebody posted it somewhere.
 
A mere ten years later.
She was made up to look older in that scene.

Or maybe someone who was working for / gotten to by them.

I'm surprised my friend didn't make a big deal out of it.
Your DC informant?

I can't even think of any others off the top of my head. I know I only have their 70s stuff in my MP3 folder.
Looking at their discography, they actually have several memorable singles earlier in the '80s, but they weren't coming to me off the top of my head, either.
 
She was made up to look older in that scene.
I wondered about that.

Or maybe someone who was working for / gotten to by them.
That would be pretty sad if he was being forced to work with the people who killed and replaced his son.

Your DC informant?
Well, at the time I was only reading Marvel. He was not only reading DC, but was very much into music. In fact, he would later make his career in the music industry.

Looking at their discography, they actually have several memorable singles earlier in the '80s, but they weren't coming to me off the top of my head, either.
Yeah, looks like I remember a bunch from before "Maneater," but only one from after.
 
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