I've only seen one with her in it to any degree. She wasn't bad, but you know she's just a temp.
Evidence of SNW being a possible alternate timeline from TOS
I've only seen one with her in it to any degree. She wasn't bad, but you know she's just a temp.
I edited my post to make it more clear that Carol Kane is basically playing the same character she always plays, starting with Simka Gravas from Taxi...the annoying funky-accented crazy lady. I brought up 'Guinan reject' initially because of her character being long-lived, but that's where the resemblance to Guinan ends.
You have an "escape route" with SNW strongly implying that everything after Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow is an alternate timeline. If you're going to focus on continuity errors, maybe focus on ones SNW did before then? That said, I think Spock did mind meld with La'an even in S1, but maybe Spock considered La'an an augment and not a human.
They should use that escape route. If they get a chance to make year one they can just make kirks 5 year mission the way they want with no worry about continuity and canon because it will happen in an alternate universe.
I think it wasn't an "extreme" escape route but basically a message to the audience that everything in SNW after that episode is a "close enough" timeline. Meaning maybe Spock found some other way to synchronize with Kirk instead of a mind meld in the original timeline, etc.
I love this phrase. "Canon Spackle." That sums it up beautifully. Well done, sir.
I love this phrase. "Canon Spackle." That sums it up beautifully. Well done, sir.
Not all canon spackle is bad. It works wonderfully in Lower Decks. Even with a built in reason for revisiting elements from past shows with the Second Contact mission statement.
Oh, yeah. That's part of what I like about it. There's no value judgement in the term. It can be done well or done badly, like most fan service.
Either that or temporal grout.
Manufactured from depleted Cordry rocks.
I prefer WD 2240.
It never fails to amuse me how some fans will overlook an error in a series they like, yet when a series they dislike makes a similar mistake, they treat it as proof that it's set in a different timeline and that the writers are hacks who hate Star Trek and are trying to ruin it for everyone else.
How is Spock's line about mind melds with humans any different from the Trill suddenly being able to use transporters? Never mind the fact that the Trill looked like an entirely different species in DS9 than they did in TNG. By that logic, I guess DS9 must be set in a different timeline too, and its writers must have hated Star Trek.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
At least the Strange New Worlds writers have the excuse of possibly overlooking a minor detail from nearly 60 years ago. What was DS9's excuse?
How is Spock's line about mind melds with humans any different from the Trill suddenly being able to use transporters? Never mind the fact that the Trill looked like an entirely different species in DS9 than they did in TNG. By that logic, I guess DS9 must be set in a different timeline too, and its writers must have hated Star Trek.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
At least the Strange New Worlds writers have the excuse of possibly overlooking a minor detail from nearly 60 years ago. What was DS9's excuse?
On DS9, in their first Mirror Universe episode, the Alliance had cloaks. In the last Mirror Universe episode on DS9, the entire story was predicated upon the Alliance not having cloaks.
Wait, don't tell me, let me guess.. that was an alternate mu, right?
Wait, don't tell me, let me guess.. that was an alternate mu, right?
And probably fewer people that would take the show seriously.
So the show can't stand on its own just with the writing and acting?
I love the visuals in The Cage. And while again (feel like a broken record here), what they’ve done with SNW is not what I would have done (I would have taken more echoes from the original Trek pilot while still modernizing it), it does not hurt my enjoyment of the series.
I'm gonna weigh in once and once only and then make sure to walk away, lest I get into a string of draining arguments...
The powers who run Star Trek determine what is set within any given timeline, and what qualifies as canon. Those matters are the domain of the producers and writers. They have determined that DSC, SNW, PIC, LWD, and ACA are all within the same timeline as TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT. It's one big timeline. Yes, it has inconsistencies, but that was true long before DSC showed up on the scene.
Now, you may not like the official situation, and you may decide that you have your own 'head canon' or 'fanon' to take its place. That's fine. We all have our imagined preferences. However, when it comes to studio policy, there's the prime timeline, comprising of all the TV shows, and all but three movies (namely the Kelvin timeline movies). That's it.
The powers who run Star Trek determine what is set within any given timeline, and what qualifies as canon. Those matters are the domain of the producers and writers. They have determined that DSC, SNW, PIC, LWD, and ACA are all within the same timeline as TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT. It's one big timeline. Yes, it has inconsistencies, but that was true long before DSC showed up on the scene.
Now, you may not like the official situation, and you may decide that you have your own 'head canon' or 'fanon' to take its place. That's fine. We all have our imagined preferences. However, when it comes to studio policy, there's the prime timeline, comprising of all the TV shows, and all but three movies (namely the Kelvin timeline movies). That's it.
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