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Miscast Starships - Discussion

Mark_Nguyen

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Let's talk about the times when we see a starship on screen, when it really should've been some other design than what we saw! Here, I'll list off the ship, analyze my reasoning, and suggest two fixes: one if they could have fixed it at the time of airing if they’d had resources available, and a second, "pie in the sky" sort of fix in hindsight from 2026, if I were in charge of (say) a new remaster of the show. I'm sticking to Starfleet examples, but feel free to add you own:


Ship: USS Pegasus
Episode: TNG "The Pegasus"
Ship Model: Oberth-class

I'm starting with this one as a clear example of a mismatch. In dialogue, the ship was billed as "a prototype. Experimental engine, new weapon systems. In fact, some of our designs were used in constructing the Enterprise", per her former CO, Admiral Pressman. However, when we saw her, the Pegasus turned out to be an Oberth-class ship, first seen in-universe as the USS Grissom some 85 years prior.

According to behind-the-scenes stuff, the ship was originally meant to be a new design, probably the Cheyenne-class four-nacelled ship previously seen as a wreck in TNG "The Best of Both Worlds Part II". It went as far as the Pegasus engineering set showing four nacelles on its LCARS. However, for whatever reason the show didn't have the time or budget to create a new model, so instead they redressed the 1984 Grissom model and glued some orange rocks around it.

In-context fix: If they could've, it would be really cool to see the Cheyenne-class model, building it from AMT models at the time, or using a cast of the two-foot Enterprise studio model to create the parts they needed.

2026 fix: re-create the ship and asteroid in CG. Keep it the Cheyenne for continuity with the Pegasus engineering set LCARS.


Ship: USS Prometheus
Episode: DS9 "Second Sight"
Ship Model: Nebula-class

From the same production year as the above, we're introduced to the USS Prometheus, aptly-named for the Greek titan who game mankind the ability to create fire. In the episode, the ship was relatively slow, and needed O'Brien to soup up the engines to make warp 9.5 in case Seyetik's experiment went sideways (why?). The bridge was a nondescript Starfleet design seen as the USS Saratoga and other "guest" ships previously, and most interestingly, the ship was commanded by Lieutenant Junior Grade Piersall.

The ship's class was not specified in the shooting script, only that she was "a Federation science vessel, not in any way noteworthy or obtrusive", so the studio probably just went with whatever they decided would look cool. However, the Nebula-class model they settled on was previously seen as a much larger ship, a counterpart to the "hero" Galaxy-class in many ways, with notable firepower and crew count. Ostensibly they went with a junior officer in charge such that Sisko and his crew could upstage the Prometheus' staff when the story called for it.

In-context fix: Use the Oberth-class model. It was already seen as the Pegasus that production year (perhaps why it wasn't available?) and fits the bill of a small, unremarkable science vessel. In a pinch, use the Jenolan model instead, as well as its bridge.

2026 fix: CG re-creation, but put in the Nova-class model instead to keep it relatively modern.


Ship: USS Rhode Island
Episode: VOY "Endgame"
Ship Model: Nova-class

Harry Kim finally gets a promotion and even a command of his own, but it's a) from an aborted future timeline, and b) it's a little Nova class ship. As it's effectively a "What if" sort of episode, the fandom has been a little more forgiving of this choice. However, the last time we saw the ship model used, it was explicitly meant to be a smaller, slower, less capable ship than Voyager. Here, we see it not only catch up to the renegade Admiral Janeway, but also fight toe-to-toe with two "future" Klingon ship designs (themselves modified Negh'var models, the biggest the Klingons could offer at the time).

The shooting script doesn't specify the class of ship, only that it was "massive", which is of course subject to interpretation. Unlike other examples of miscast ships though, the production deliberately chose this class to use, and went so far as to give the limited bridge set an MSD of the modified Nova-class model (with its own registration number, but that's another topic). I'm guessing they used it simply because it was a popular design from "Equinox", and had a pretty detailed model to use or modify at hand, representing "modern" Starfleet design. They were certainly under the finale’s time and budget pressures by then anyway, so they couldn't come up with an entirely new model. Fandom has justified that in the intervening years a Nova-class ship could have been upgraded to be a faster, beefier ship, and I'm okay with that, but IMO they really should have chosen another ship design to match how it appears in the script and honestly what Kim deserves IMO.

In-context fix: Make the Rhode Island a Prometheus-class ship, as they already had the model. Modify it if need be to make it a non-MVAM version, which was a silly-if-cool idea to begin with. Swap it with the Prometheus model seen at the end of the episode as a similar easter egg.

2026 fix: Use one of the assorted ship models made in the intervening years to represent the Rhode Island, as by "Picard" we're roughly where the timelines meet up anyway. The Rhode Island would IMO look and shoot really well if she were a Sagan-class ship!


Ship: USS Saratoga
Episode: DS9 "Emissary"
Ship Model: Miranda-class

The Saratoga is introduced as Ben Sisko’s ship in the DS9 premiere. It was deemed to be suitable to send against the Borg in the first wave of ships, complete with a full complement of civilians. Interesting tactical decisions aside, I was surprised to see the Saratoga be a re-use of the venerable Miranda-class model, which didn’t even have a class name at the time.

I’ve read that the model was selected because of its level of detail and size. The shooting script doesn’t mention a class of any kind, and the bridge didn’t have an MSD, so it’s another case of “whatever looks cool” and matched the filming schedule. The limitations of the model were also in evidence, as the ship was only filmed up close from the bottom, meaning that when it was struck with a “direct hit, decks 1-4” it was actually hit from the bottom; also the modifications (resulting from the roll bar portion of the model being damaged) meant that the ship had no visible torpedo launchers anymore, so it could only fire phasers unlike what the script said.

IMO, especially given the presence of civilians, I always thought they should’ve used a larger ship. The Miranda-class ship is fine, and the modifications were welcome, but IMO it should have been something more modern to better reflect the “best” of Starfleet at the time being helpless against the Borg, versus another decades-old design.

In-context fix: Use the Ambassador-class design, which was already in the episode as the USS Yamaguchi, sprucing it up a bit for close ups. It’s bigger, can more believably accommodate civilians (which the USS Ghandi of the same class is stated to do later this same production year in “Second Chances”).

2026 fix: A CG version of the Nebula-class model with the extra pair of smaller nacelles seen in Sisko’s DS9 office later, to maintain continuity.


Ship: USS Defiant
Episode: DS9 “Favor the Bold” et. al.
Ship Model: Defiant

Okay, I’m starting to go a little afield here, but bear with me. By the beginning of the sixth season, DS9 as a show had expanded into a galactic-level conflict, with fleets of ships in combat around the quadrant. Starting with “Favor the Bold”, the “tough little” USS Defiant is seen several times acting as a fleet flagship for hundreds or more combatants, despite having a questionable capacity to do so as well as leading from the front of the battle line. Comms were routed through Nog, a competent but fresh Ensign with no experience at this level, though his time as the squawk box of the disabled Defiant the previous year surely helped.

Obviously the ever-present budget is at work here, as they really had access only to the Defiant sets. Functionally, a flagship should have been a bigger combatant kept well back from the fighting, instead lending support in the way of fighter launches or long-range support firepower. Heck, Sisko was himself removed from command of the Defiant for that exact reason earlier in the same season, so the ship could keep fighting while he handled more strategic planning. By all rights, Sisko should’ve commanded the whole battle from the rear, aboard one of the many Galaxy-class ships we saw in the fray.

In-context fix: Put Sisko on the franchise’s “guest” bridge (at that point in the show, the original USS Saratoga bridge was gone, but VOY had a bigger one that had been seen as the Excelsior and later the Prometheus and Equinox) and have him be the Fleet Captain from there. Thereon, whenever a fleet scene came up, use the same bridge to represent some other big ship that could act as the flagship. Ideally a Galaxy-class, but maybe even a Sovereign (and use the Enterprise-E bridge accordingly).

2026 fix: We can’t really CGI the crew into another ship with the available footage and scripting, so how about instead modifying the Defiant’s exterior to have extra communications modules or greeblies to justify its role as a ship coordinating a large fleet?


Ships: Yorktown, Excalibur, Potemkin, Lexington
Episode: TOS “The Ultimate Computer”
Ship Model: Constitution

This one is a case of fixing what seemed to be okay in the original airing, but which seems less likely in the modern context of Trek. Here, we have the Enterprise in wargames against four other Starfleet ships, which all happen to be of the same class and type as hers.

At the time, the show only had ONE Starfleet ship model, which stood in as EVERY other Federation ship seen up close in the three years of the show. That made sense at the time, but in practice, there were only “twelve like her in the fleet”, with encounters with other starships being rare as they were. Here, we have FIVE Constitution-class ships, half of the class remaining by that point (the Constellation and Intrepid having been lost by that point in the show; and if you count the USS Cayuga, it’s more than half the remaining ships!), involved in a single action. Possible? Sure, but IMO not likely. Better to have a mix of ships shown.

In-context fix: Build another ship model. The Franz Joseph designs wouldn’t exist for another few years, but surely the model makers of the time could have come up with another large capital ship counterpart given enough time and budget.

2026 fix: CG at least a couple of the other ships as non-Connies (Nonnies?). Use the Franz Joseph designs as a baseline. Note that this is something that the fandom actually wanted for the 2006 remastered series, but all we got was an extra window on the front of one of the Connies as a sort of wink to the audience, as the intent was more to recreate the original footage more than change it a la Spielberg.
 
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Rick Sternbach did do concept art of a 'new' design for the Pegasus

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For the last group in "The Ultimate Computer" we have a precedent now. USS Farragut. IN SNW she is definitely not a Constitution-class starship. Have some of the pack be those. Maybe leave USS Lexington as the one other Constitution present as that is the one Commadore Wesley is on.
 
For the last group in "The Ultimate Computer" we have a precedent now. USS Farragut. IN SNW she is definitely not a Constitution-class starship. Have some of the pack be those. Maybe leave USS Lexington as the one other Constitution present as that is the one Commadore Wesley is on.

I like the second pilot model for Wesley's ship. Taller bridge to go with that taller chair :)
Bigger dish, spikes on nacelles---that shouts command cruiser.

Enterprise would be the only ship with the spheres on the aft nacelle caps.
 
Hm. Some good ideas here, but I'm going to push back a bit and say that changing out the Saratoga and Rhode Island would rob us of some much-needed (IMO) variants of existing classes. In fact, I believe there were subtle variations added to the other ships in "The Ultimate Computer", but I'd be fine with swapping some of those out.

As for my own addition to the list, I'm going to go with the "K'vort" class BoP. (Honestly surprised you didn't include this one! :lol:) It's a much larger ship than the original BoP (sometimes called B'rel class), but absolutely nothing changed with the model.
In-context fix: Add/switch a lot of the smaller details to suggest a bigger ship. Probably also add more windows.
2026 fix: Definitely needs a new design, although Relga's BoP in LDS would fit nicely, and I believe STO also came up with their own update to the K'vort.
 
Oh, the BoP size discrepancies have been gone over ad nauseum and can fill a thread of their own. :) I stuck to Federation designs as a starting point.

Starting with the ST3 BoP as a relatively tiny ship with "a dozen officers and men" as standard complement, we have at least three sizes being introduced in "A Matter of Honor", "The Defector", and "Yesterday's Enterprise", with DS9's Rotarran potentially being a fourth later on (meant to be an analog of the Defiant in size and complement per the writers on the old r.a.s.tech newsgroup). SOME of them get a pass as they had extra light holes drilled into the model to infer a greater size variant, but overall there really should have been a new or different design for each instance at least.

Mark
 
Star Trek Online has just done something that I'm surprised to have never/hardly seen before, a reimagined K'Vort that modifies the design to represent a larger ship. I suppose it kind of happened in the last episode of Lower Decks, but I think of that as a different design entirely, since one of the defining features of the Giant Bird of Prey from TNG was that the wings were always up (STO seems to disagree).

Anyway, it's not quite what I would've done (for one thing, I would've added a lot more windows), but it's interesting, especially the totally different head section.
 
I've yet to attain the K'Vort in STO, but I know you have the option of switching the skin between the LDS-style BOP captained by Relga, or the TNG style with fixed wings in the landing position associated with the B'rel.

I like what they've done with it in either case.
 
Ship: USS Pegasus
Episode: TNG "The Pegasus"
Ship Model: Oberth-class

I'm starting with this one as a clear example of a mismatch. In dialogue, the ship was billed as "a prototype. Experimental engine, new weapon systems. In fact, some of our designs were used in constructing the Enterprise", per her former CO, Admiral Pressman. However, when we saw her, the Pegasus turned out to be an Oberth-class ship, first seen in-universe as the USS Grissom some 85 years prior.

According to behind-the-scenes stuff, the ship was originally meant to be a new design, probably the Cheyenne-class four-nacelled ship previously seen as a wreck in TNG "The Best of Both Worlds Part II". It went as far as the Pegasus engineering set showing four nacelles on its LCARS. However, for whatever reason the show didn't have the time or budget to create a new model, so instead they redressed the 1984 Grissom model and glued some orange rocks around it.

In-context fix: If they could've, it would be really cool to see the Cheyenne-class model, building it from AMT models at the time, or using a cast of the two-foot Enterprise studio model to create the parts they needed.

2026 fix: re-create the ship and asteroid in CG. Keep it the Cheyenne for continuity with the Pegasus engineering set LCARS.

I don't believe the Pegasus was ever meant to be a Cheyenne. I think that's just fan speculation based on that LCARS display.

I once emailed Rick Sternbach about that Ambassador kitbash concept art, and the discrepancy between it being the size of a standard Ambassador, but only having a minimal crew as mentioned in the dialogue. He responded that, had the VFX guys built an actual model, it would have been scaled down like the BoBW kitbashes were. Presumably that would have meant the ship would have had a larger bridge dome and larger windows to suggest a smaller ship. This is actually evident in the concept art @Tuskin38 posted. You can see that the rim of the saucer is only one deck thick, based on the window placement.

But there is still the problem that a ship built only five years before the Enterprise-D should have had attributes of the BoBW kitbashes, not the Ambassador class which was much older.

As for what I would have wanted for the actual ship? It goes back to pretty much every use of the Grissom model in TNG, starting with the Tsiolkovsky. It was obvious that the scripts for "The Naked Now," "The Pegasus," etc. suggested they should have been ships contemporary to the Galaxy class Enterprise-D, only smaller. (The Tsiolkovsky's dedication plaque indicated it had been commissioned the same year as the Ent-D, and the Pegasus was stated on screen to only be 12 years old as of that episode.) So I think an Oberth-ized version of the Galaxy class would have worked better for this design.

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Ship: USS Prometheus
Episode: DS9 "Second Sight"
Ship Model: Nebula-class

From the same production year as the above, we're introduced to the USS Prometheus, aptly-named for the Greek titan who game mankind the ability to create fire. In the episode, the ship was relatively slow, and needed O'Brien to soup up the engines to make warp 9.5 in case Seyetik's experiment went sideways (why?). The bridge was a nondescript Starfleet design seen as the USS Saratoga and other "guest" ships previously, and most interestingly, the ship was commanded by Lieutenant Junior Grade Piersall.

The ship's class was not specified in the shooting script, only that she was "a Federation science vessel, not in any way noteworthy or obtrusive", so the studio probably just went with whatever they decided would look cool. However, the Nebula-class model they settled on was previously seen as a much larger ship, a counterpart to the "hero" Galaxy-class in many ways, with notable firepower and crew count. Ostensibly they went with a junior officer in charge such that Sisko and his crew could upstage the Prometheus' staff when the story called for it.

In-context fix: Use the Oberth-class model. It was already seen as the Pegasus that production year (perhaps why it wasn't available?) and fits the bill of a small, unremarkable science vessel. In a pinch, use the Jenolan model instead, as well as its bridge.

2026 fix: CG re-creation, but put in the Nova-class model instead to keep it relatively modern.

Putting aside the overuse of the Grissom model for ships that were supposed to be more contemporary, making the Prometheus an Oberth class would have made more sense, yes, but the real issue is that, like with the Pegasus above (and the Saratoga below), they really should have just made a new filming model 'guest' starship for DS9, instead of just reusing models from TNG and the TOS films. I mean they constructed an entirely new space station model for the show, not to mention the runabout models. They could easily have built a smaller starship to be the 'Oberth' of DS9 (and then it could have gone on to be used as the Raman and the Pegasus in TNG.)

Ship: USS Rhode Island
Episode: VOY "Endgame"
Ship Model: Nova-class

Harry Kim finally gets a promotion and even a command of his own, but it's a) from an aborted future timeline, and b) it's a little Nova class ship. As it's effectively a "What if" sort of episode, the fandom has been a little more forgiving of this choice. However, the last time we saw the ship model used, it was explicitly meant to be a smaller, slower, less capable ship than Voyager. Here, we see it not only catch up to the renegade Admiral Janeway, but also fight toe-to-toe with two "future" Klingon ship designs (themselves modified Negh'var models, the biggest the Klingons could offer at the time).

The shooting script doesn't specify the class of ship, only that it was "massive", which is of course subject to interpretation. Unlike other examples of miscast ships though, the production deliberately chose this class to use, and went so far as to give the limited bridge set an MSD of the modified Nova-class model (with its own registration number, but that's another topic). I'm guessing they used it simply because it was a popular design from "Equinox", and had a pretty detailed model to use or modify at hand, representing "modern" Starfleet design. They were certainly under the finale’s time and budget pressures by then anyway, so they couldn't come up with an entirely new model. Fandom has justified that in the intervening years a Nova-class ship could have been upgraded to be a faster, beefier ship, and I'm okay with that, but IMO they really should have chosen another ship design to match how it appears in the script and honestly what Kim deserves IMO.

In-context fix: Make the Rhode Island a Prometheus-class ship, as they already had the model. Modify it if need be to make it a non-MVAM version, which was a silly-if-cool idea to begin with. Swap it with the Prometheus model seen at the end of the episode as a similar easter egg.

2026 fix: Use one of the assorted ship models made in the intervening years to represent the Rhode Island, as by "Picard" we're roughly where the timelines meet up anyway. The Rhode Island would IMO look and shoot really well if she were a Sagan-class ship!

Captain Harry Kim's ship was supposed to be a new design, only based on the Nova class, designed by Tim Earls:


I would have preferred that they had made a CGI model of it instead of just making minimal changes to the Nova class model.

Ship: USS Saratoga
Episode: DS9 "Emissary"
Ship Model: Miranda-class

The Saratoga is introduced as Ben Sisko’s ship in the DS9 premiere. It was deemed to be suitable to send against the Borg in the first wave of ships, complete with a full complement of civilians. Interesting tactical decisions aside, I was surprised to see the Saratoga be a re-use of the venerable Miranda-class model, which didn’t even have a class name at the time.

I’ve read that the model was selected because of its level of detail and size. The shooting script doesn’t mention a class of any kind, and the bridge didn’t have an MSD, so it’s another case of “whatever looks cool” and matched the filming schedule. The limitations of the model were also in evidence, as the ship was only filmed up close from the bottom, meaning that when it was struck with a “direct hit, decks 1-4” it was actually hit from the bottom; also the modifications (resulting from the roll bar portion of the model being damaged) meant that the ship had no visible torpedo launchers anymore, so it could only fire phasers unlike what the script said.

IMO, especially given the presence of civilians, I always thought they should’ve used a larger ship. The Miranda-class ship is fine, and the modifications were welcome, but IMO it should have been something more modern to better reflect the “best” of Starfleet at the time being helpless against the Borg, versus another decades-old design.

In-context fix: Use the Ambassador-class design, which was already in the episode as the USS Yamaguchi, sprucing it up a bit for close ups. It’s bigger, can more believably accommodate civilians (which the USS Ghandi of the same class is stated to do later this same production year in “Second Chances”).

2026 fix: A CG version of the Nebula-class model with the extra pair of smaller nacelles seen in Sisko’s DS9 office later, to maintain continuity.

I think they just ended up using the Reliant model for the Saratoga because it was a small ship whose filming model had the most detail when seen up close. As I mentioned above for the Prometheus, they really should have made the Saratoga a new ship, which could then be reused for 'guest' starships on DS9 when needed.

Ship: USS Defiant
Episode: DS9 “Favor the Bold” et. al.
Ship Model: Defiant

Okay, I’m starting to go a little afield here, but bear with me. By the beginning of the sixth season, DS9 as a show had expanded into a galactic-level conflict, with fleets of ships in combat around the quadrant. Starting with “Favor the Bold”, the “tough little” USS Defiant is seen several times acting as a fleet flagship for hundreds or more combatants, despite having a questionable capacity to do so as well as leading from the front of the battle line. Comms were routed through Nog, a competent but fresh Ensign with no experience at this level, though his time as the squawk box of the disabled Defiant the previous year surely helped.

Obviously the ever-present budget is at work here, as they really had access only to the Defiant sets. Functionally, a flagship should have been a bigger combatant kept well back from the fighting, instead lending support in the way of fighter launches or long-range support firepower. Heck, Sisko was himself removed from command of the Defiant for that exact reason earlier in the same season, so the ship could keep fighting while he handled more strategic planning. By all rights, Sisko should’ve commanded the whole battle from the rear, aboard one of the many Galaxy-class ships we saw in the fray.

In-context fix: Put Sisko on the franchise’s “guest” bridge (at that point in the show, the original USS Saratoga bridge was gone, but VOY had a bigger one that had been seen as the Excelsior and later the Prometheus and Equinox) and have him be the Fleet Captain from there. Thereon, whenever a fleet scene came up, use the same bridge to represent some other big ship that could act as the flagship. Ideally a Galaxy-class, but maybe even a Sovereign (and use the Enterprise-E bridge accordingly).

2026 fix: We can’t really CGI the crew into another ship with the available footage and scripting, so how about instead modifying the Defiant’s exterior to have extra communications modules or greeblies to justify its role as a ship coordinating a large fleet?

Conversely, I think that it would have been better if, once the Defiant was destroyed by the Breen, that they used the Rotarran as their command ship instead. Because the whole shock value of the Defiant's loss was negated two episodes later with the Sao Paulo new Defiant, which was just stock footage of the old Defiant. But then they wouldn't have been able to reuse all that battle footage from previous episodes for the series finale! :rolleyes:

And on the subject of the Rotarran: I feel that they should have built a new Klingon filming model for Martok's command ship instead of just using a BoP. That way it would be differentiated from the rest of the generic BoP/K't'Inga/Vorcha Klingon fleet, since they weren't going to give him back the Negh'var.

Ships: Yorktown, Excalibur, Potemkin, Lexington

Episode: TOS “The Ultimate Computer”
Ship Model: Constitution

This one is a case of fixing what seemed to be okay in the original airing, but which seems less likely in the modern context of Trek. Here, we have the Enterprise in wargames against four other Starfleet ships, which all happen to be of the same class and type as hers.

At the time, the show only had ONE Starfleet ship model, which stood in as EVERY other Federation ship seen up close in the three years of the show. That made sense at the time, but in practice, there were only “twelve like her in the fleet”, with encounters with other starships being rare as they were. Here, we have FIVE Constitution-class ships, half of the class remaining by that point (the Constellation and Intrepid having been lost by that point in the show; and if you count the USS Cayuga, it’s more than half the remaining ships!), involved in a single action. Possible? Sure, but IMO not likely. Better to have a mix of ships shown.

In-context fix: Build another ship model. The Franz Joseph designs wouldn’t exist for another few years, but surely the model makers of the time could have come up with another large capital ship counterpart given enough time and budget.

2026 fix: CG at least a couple of the other ships as non-Connies (Nonnies?). Use the Franz Joseph designs as a baseline. Note that this is something that the fandom actually wanted for the 2006 remastered series, but all we got was an extra window on the front of one of the Connies as a sort of wink to the audience, as the intent was more to recreate the original footage more than change it a la Spielberg.

Nope. There was already enough dumb changes for changes' sake in TOS-R. We don't need to have those ships be anything other than what they originally were on screen in 1966.
 
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The Grissom still looks (to my eye anyway) more futuristic than any design since—so it is perfect for a phased cloak testbed…maybe Spock’s jellyfish from 09’.

Now the most miscast ship of all time?

The Evenrude outboard motor that called itself a “medical frigate.”

Huh?
 
There are definitely a few ships that didn't make sense, as OP mentioned. Pegasus was certainly the most glaring, as with the Prometheus as you mentioned. I'm ok with the Rhode Island being a Nova class ship. To me, it would make sense that this smaller ship that is requires less resources to build than for example a Galaxy class or Sovereign class, would become something like the Miranda class of the early 25th century. As often mentioned, it would make a lot more sense if Starfleet used proven designs for a longer time in the late 24th and early 24th century, instead of always making new designs. They did with the Miranda, Oberth and Excelsior, so why not the Nova class?

I still feel it's odd that Picard gave us so many new ships, which I loved, but still, we should have seen a lot more Galaxy classes for example, or Intrepid's.
 
Also on the subject of Klingon ships (and Romulan, for that matter), the three biggest changes I would have wanted were:

1. Either make a new Klingon battleship model for 'The Defector' that correctly scales against the Romulan Warbirds, or reuse a model with different coloring.

2. Make a new design for the K'Vort class in "Yesterday's Enterprise."

3. Create a new, smaller CGI Romulan ship for the Dominion War fleet scenes instead of just using only the D'Deridex for Romulan ships.


For #1, I realize that both the 4-foot Ent-D, the Romulan scoutship, and the 2nd Romulan Warbird were all new models as of that episode, and there probably wasn't budget money to build a new Klingon ship. But they could have used the Husnock warship or the Promellian battlecruiser, colored them olive green, and slapped a Klingon symbol on them prior to making the Vor'cha model later.

For #2, Michael Okuda did actually build a kitbash for the K'Vort class from a K'T'inga class model kit, but I don't think it was ever seriously considered for use. Again, they just spent lots of money to build the Enterprise-C model and weren't all that concerned about reusing the BoP despite the inconsistent scaling. But it would have made YE much more epic had they created a more realistic warship for the alternate universe.

For #3, I totally think they could have designed a different Romulan ship, or even several. They were making CGI ships of the week all the time on Voyager, so it stands to reason that they could have done more in this regard.
 
I suppose it kind of happened in the last episode of Lower Decks, but I think of that as a different design entirely, since one of the defining features of the Giant Bird of Prey from TNG was that the wings were always up (STO seems to disagree).

If you select the TNG configuration the wings are always up, they don't move.

The double wings down config with the ENT Raptor looking head and neck is meant to be Relga's ship from the Lower Decks finale.

We almost didn't get a B'Rel style head for the K'Vort as they were short on time, but they managed to squeeze it in.

They also didn't just take their existing B'Rel model and upscale it, they added new details that makes sense for a bigger ship. More windows, 2 disruptor cannons per wing, and 3 torpedo launchers in the TNG Head.
 
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2. Make a new design for the K'Vort class in "Yesterday's Enterprise."

For my part, I sometimes wish we got to see the battleship D go up against a trio of Vor'Cha class ships, but the Vor'Cha model hadn't been built yet. :D

I also kind of wish we'd seen more of the BOBW type modern ships in the Dominion War fleets in place of older designs like the Miranda and Excelsior, even though I also generally don't have a problem with those classes having a degree of longevity either. It would have just seemed more visually consistent.
 
For my part, I sometimes wish we got to see the battleship D go up against a trio of Vor'Cha class ships, but the Vor'Cha model hadn't been built yet. :D

I'm sure if they had built a new model for the K'Vort (and not gone with Okuda's kitbash), it probably would have resembled the Vor'cha, since Sternbach designed both that and the YE Enterprise-C.

I also kind of wish we'd seen more of the BOBW type modern ships in the Dominion War fleets in place of older designs like the Miranda and Excelsior, even though I also generally don't have a problem with those classes having a degree of longevity either. It would have just seemed more visually consistent.

Unfortunately that boiled down to whatever physical models they had on hand that could be scanned into CGI, plus the FC ships. They didn't have time to create new CGI designs for the BoBW ships like Eaglemoss did much later.

(But no VOY ships, like the Intrepid, Prometheus, or Nova! And no Sovereign! Nope, can't have those in DS9! :p)
 
I would love a remastered DS9 showing the as-filmed battle sequences shown as part of prologs and or inset on viewscreens.

Mirandas get used up as we see the Dominion's early successes, with the "Class of '96" FIRST CONTACT ships as the Federation regroups....some new footage.
 
And even with they did, they’d probably keep all the ships the same.

Most likely. It takes time and money to create new designs, even decades after the fact. Plus I doubt any VFX company hired to remaster DS9's effects will care about such esoteric things like padding out the fleet with more contemporary 24th century ships.
 
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