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Sooooo... who's Thrawn gonna kill?

Gaith

Gaith

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At the end of Ahsoka S1, Thrawn returns to the main galaxy, and our protagonists think this could be a very dangerous and deadly development. Now, we in the audience know that this campaign, whatever it amounts to, won't be significant enough to merit a direct mention in the Sequel Trilogy. We also know that he obviously can't kill anyone who's still alive in those movies.

(Acknowledged: Thrawn didn't kill anyone major in the Thrawn Trilogy, or win any lasting victories. But, Zahn had a smaller cast to work with in those books, the very first to continue the story post-RotJ, and probably couldn't kill anyone he wasn't also introducing in that same story. Whereas Disney Thrawn has already been around for longer than he was in his said trilogy.)

So, who can Thrawn potentially kill? A quick list:

- Ahsoka (LOL, like that'll happen)
- Any of the Rebels crew apart from the already-offed Kanan (ditto)
- Din Djarin or Grogu (ditto)
- Cal Kestis
- Boba Fett and/or his pals Fennec Shand (Ming-Na Wen) and the Wookiee Black Krrsantan
- Mon Mothma
- Lobot
- Kleya Marki or Vel Sartha
- Cara Dune (off-screen? :p)
- Talon Karrde (not even introduced yet)
- Mara Jade (also not introduced, but it would be darkly funny, from a certain point of view, if she were introduced only to quickly bite it without ever meeting Luke)

Finally, Thrawn could bombard the hell out of Coruscant, thus causing the New Republic capital to move to the Hosnian system. I don't know if any books have explained said move, but so far as I know, nothing live-action has done so, so any such explanation could always be overwritten.

Now, realistically, I'm not sure Filoni would want to take any of his major characters off the table just to bolster Thrawn's villainy. So, I'd say Mon Mothma might be the biggest plausible kill, with mass devastation of Coruscant a close second. Mothma could always perish in such an attack.

As for hero character deaths in general, I don't necessarily demand that villains rack up some significant kills to prevent the story from being a waste, but, on the other hand, if one keeps adding heroes to the roster and none of them ever die, no matter how many scrapes they get in, it does tend to lower the stakes.

Anyhow, this admittedly isn't the deepest thread or anything. Just a wee diversion. :p


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Gaith said:
Finally, Thrawn could bombard the hell out of Coruscant, thus causing the New Republic capital to move to the Hosnian system. I don't know if any books have explained said move, but so far as I know, nothing live-action has done so, so any such explanation could always be overwritten.
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It was explained as a rotating Capitol system.
 
Conveniently enough, I believe Colin Trevorrow's early drafts of the Rise of Skywalker script did have Kylo Ren visiting a completely abandoned Coruscant...
 
Well, we know Ahsoka is dead by The Rise of Skywalker so I wouldn't be so surprised if she died but only at the very end (which isn't necessarily this season).
 
^ Yeah, I don't think we know that at all. If Filoni wants to say she spoke to Rey from the World Between Worlds while still alive, that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Hell, I fully expect Ahsoka, Ezra, Sabine and Grogu to end up waltzing about thirty years into the future via the WBW (with Ahsoka adding her voice to the Jedi Chorus then), thus explaining their absence in the sequel trilogy, and leaving them free to have more adventures with Rey... because Filoni and Co. will apparently go to any lengths to de-center Luke, (adult) Leia and Han from the unfolding saga at large. :rommie:
 
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. Every other voice heard in the scene is from someone who is dead. Why would Ahsoka be the exception?

Please answer that without the tired mudslinging at Filoni.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. Every other voice heard in the scene is from someone who is dead. Why would Ahsoka be the exception?

Please answer that without the tired mudslinging at Filoni.
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gizmodo.com

Here's What Dave Filoni Had to Say About Ahsoka Tano's Voice in The Rise of Skywalker

Just because Rey heard Ahsoka Tano’s voice mixed in with a bunch of dead Jedi in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, it doesn’t necessarily mean she’s dead.
gizmodo.com gizmodo.com
 
Fair enough. I forgot about those comments but I remember seeing them at the time (...back when I was less familiar with Ahsoka).
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. Every other voice heard in the scene is from someone who is dead. Why would Ahsoka be the exception?

Please answer that without the tired mudslinging at Filoni.
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LOL, Ahsoka is a Jedi who survived the purge and was alive and well when Yoda and Obi-Wan's Force ghost told Luke he was the last of the Jedi and the galaxy's last hope, despite Luke not even having been formally knighted. One would think that a Force Ghost would be aware of which souls had departed the mortal plane, so really, Obi-Wan should have known, or at the very least strongly suspected, that Ahsoka was still alive, and he should have reached out to her through the Force for assistance.

Why didn't he, then? Because Filoni broke all sense of canon and reason at a later real-world date to keep his pet character alive, when she obviously should have been killed by Vader on Malachor. Ahsoka already is the exception.
 
Oh, spare me that rubbish. She trained and served as a member of the Jedi Order, she uses the Light Side of the Force, she battles Sith and Imperials, she meditates, she doesn't date, she wields a non-red lightsaber, she's training an apprentice, she's friendly with Jedi Luke Skywalker, and treats him as a colleague... after the Jedi Order fell, the fact that she wasn't an active member of the order when the Purge began became meaningless, because nobody was a member of the Order after it fell. Not even Obi-Wan and Yoda. But, they were still Jedi.

If a waterfowl waddles, quacks, and swims like a duck, chances are, it's a duck.

Ahsoka's a freaking Jedi in every meaningful sense. Even the official Lucasfilm Ahsoka S1 teaser trailer said so. Deal with it. :nyah:


... Now, getting back on target, if Filoni didn't let even George Lucas' own character Darth Vader kill his (Filoni's) own prized heroine, her sure as heck isn't letting her be killed by a character Zahn created. Filoni may let her ascend to Force godhood without dying first, and take her off the board that way. I could see that. But, to have her die due to a direct action of Thrawn's? Not a single blooming chance, amigos. :rommie:
 
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she wields a non-red lightsaber
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fireproof78 said:
Spare you the actual dialog spoken by the character?
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Spare me the picayune semantics, yes, and address the substantive question at hand:

Gaith said:
Yoda and Obi-Wan's Force ghost told Luke he was the last of the Jedi and the galaxy's last hope, despite Luke not even having been formally knighted. One would think that a Force Ghost would be aware of which souls had departed the mortal plane, so really, Obi-Wan should have known, or at the very least strongly suspected, that Ahsoka was still alive, and he should have reached out to her through the Force for assistance.

Why didn't he, then?
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Gaith said:
Obi-Wan should have known, or at the very least strongly suspected, that Ahsoka was still alive, and he should have reached out to her through the Force for assistance.

Why didn't he, then?
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Assuming that Force ghosts do indeed know who else is dead, I guess Obi-Wan was mentally all-in on Luke at that point. That's why he doesn't even consider Leia for anything in ESB. ("That boy is our last hope."/"No, there is another.") ;)
 
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