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Superman

It really seems we'll never get the grounded type of Superman we got with Christopher Reeve. Superman the Movie, Superman II and yes even Superman III were much better than the James Gunn one. This new one was just stuffed with too many heroes, villains etc. It just never slowed down.

Did you ever see Superman from Superboy (1988), played by 1960s tv Tarzan actor Ron Ely?

"I had to come back in time and warn you that you are a real asshole."
 
IMO, Gunn’s Superman and the Superman & Lois TV series were both near-perfect screen versions of the characters for the 21st century, despite their different tones and approaches.

Superman and Lois has great effects but also a much more toned down universe. Gunns superman i know is based off the 1950s and 60s superman comics that were in the more fantastical and silly route but the books tended to do it better. This new movie just seemed shallow. When youre watching real humans up there on the screen you want a bit more realism on the way they talk and act. You want the world to feel more real . Superman and Lois achieves what the movie really didnt. The Reeve movies achieved a more real word feel even with the added silliness.
Superman turning back time by spinning the world around backwards is "grounded"?

Better than a thousand monkeys writing revenge social media posts against superman in another universe. Lol
 
Superman and Lois has great effects but also a much more toned down universe. Gunns superman i know is based off the 1950s and 60s superman comics that were in the more fantastical and silly route but the books tended to do it better. This new movie just seemed shallow. When youre watching real humans up there on the screen you want a bit more realism on the way they talk and act. You want the world to feel more real . Superman and Lois achieves what the movie really didnt. The Reeve movies achieved a more real word feel even with the added silliness.

Gunn deliberately rejected that approach, it's frankly a gutless approach these days anyways.

Better than a thousand monkeys writing revenge social media posts against superman in another universe. Lol

How? That's based on stuff happening in the real world.
 
Superman and Lois has great effects but also a much more toned down universe. Gunns superman i know is based off the 1950s and 60s superman comics that were in the more fantastical and silly route but the books tended to do it better. This new movie just seemed shallow. When youre watching real humans up there on the screen you want a bit more realism on the way they talk and act. You want the world to feel more real . Superman and Lois achieves what the movie really didnt. The Reeve movies achieved a more real word feel even with the added silliness.
It isn’t really a question of “achieves,” since Gunn wasn’t going for a real world feel, but rather a fully comicbook universe. If that’s not to your taste, that’s fine, but it isn’t like Gunn failed in his aims. Again, I found the movie an excellent complement to S&L — a more grounded portrayal of the characters and their world on the one hand, a more fanciful approach on the other.
 
It isn’t really a question of “achieves,” since Gunn wasn’t going for a real world feel, but rather a fully comicbook universe. If that’s not to your taste, that’s fine, but it isn’t like Gunn failed in his aims. Again, I found the movie an excellent complement to S&L — a more grounded portrayal of the characters and their world on the one hand, a more fanciful approach on the other.

The movie barely broke even. It was definitely not a success. If supergirl fails its going to be a huge blow to gunns universe.
 
I’m not sure how the movie’s financial results are relevant to what we were discussing. Popularity ≠ quality. At any rate, my sense is that it was considered successful, just not a smash. Variety said as much in its Milly Alcock cover feature just a day or two ago.
 
The movie barely broke even. It was definitely not a success. If supergirl fails its going to be a huge blow to gunns universe.

I imagine that there will be at least a thousand Synder Bro's who will keep their HBOMax subscription running for years just so that they can literally piss on Jim Gun's definitive piece of Superlore daily.

The movie barely broke even. It was definitely not a success. If supergirl fails its going to be a huge blow to gunns universe.

Stick to your gunns.
 
No I do not.


No I do not.
Yeah. I mean, S&L proved that a more “realistic” approach can work in the right creative hands, but there’s no reason it should be the default for live-action funnybook adaptations.

As for the relative realism of the Christopher Reeve films, it’s true they contained fewer overtly fanciful elements, pound for pound, than Gunn’s movie did. OTOH, Clark, Lois, and even Lex are all written and played somewhat closer to actual people in the DCU than in the Donnerverse, so that balances things out pretty nicely.
 
The movie barely broke even. It was definitely not a success. If supergirl fails its going to be a huge blow to gunns universe.

That's a total lie, the Superman movie did profit and it made beyond "Broke Even". Considering the beating that DC's reputation on the big screen has been taking over the last decade, that's relevant.
 
Yeah. I mean, S&L proved that a more “realistic” approach can work in the right creative hands, but there’s no reason it should be the default for live-action funnybook adaptations.

As for the relative realism of the Christopher Reeve films, it’s true they contained fewer overtly fanciful elements, pound for pound, than Gunn’s movie did. OTOH, Clark, Lois, and even Lex are all written and played somewhat closer to actual people in the DCU than in the Donnerverse, so that balances things out pretty nicely.

If we explain Kingdom Come Superman to Bill Murray, he may do a Kingdom Come inspired Sketch on SNL.
 
That's a total lie, the Superman movie did profit and it made beyond "Broke Even". Considering the beating that DC's reputation on the big screen has been taking over the last decade, that's relevant.

Theatrically it did not. If you're talking post theater thats a different story.
Box-office dick-measuring contests by armchair accountants are among the great tediums of the Internet age.

Better than other subjects people talk about constantly in society today and think they are always right even though they aren't. I would rather have fun talking numbers. Theater box office is fairly simple to understand.
 
A look at By the Numbers website shows that Superman cost $225 million to make, and $150 million to market.
It took in $354,000,00+ domestically and $264,500,000 internationally for a total of $618,000,000+.
A profit of $200,000,000 give or take.
Yeah, it wasn't profitable.
My ass.
 
A look at By the Numbers website shows that Superman cost $225 million to make, and $150 million to market.
It took in $354,000,00+ domestically and $264,500,000 internationally for a total of $618,000,000+.
A profit of $200,000,000 give or take.
Yeah, it wasn't profitable.
My ass.

Lol. Thats totally wrong. You arent factoring that the studio has to pay theater owners a 50/50 split. The film pretty much broke even theatrically. It became profitable once it hit streaming. It made between 100 to 125 off streaming, rentals, vod etc.
 
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