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News? Stories from Dubious Sources

Firebird said:
Methinks they didn't actually watch the episode and tried to bluff their way through the argument.
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Me thinks you don't know me at all, so don't make judgements about me!

I've watched every single Star Trek episode ever produced multiple times, except for Section31 (once was enough for that one).

fireproof78 said:
Terrarium wasn't about her? :vulcan:
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I forgot about that one. I remember there was an episode (in season 2?) that was supposed to be all Ortegas heavy, but it really wasn't... They were all under the influence of something and ortegas had to find a way to fly the ship, whilst being intoxicated herself, but that episode was more about other people and didn't tell us anything about the character.

Still, one episode about Ortegas in three seasons... It just confirms what I've been saying.

We don't know these characters at all and the fact we get 10 heavy action episodes with big threats about world or universe ending madness every one or two years doesn't help either... Not every episode needs to be The Visitor or In The Pale Moonlight, but like half of them would be nice...

Anyway, it seems Trek will be over for a little while on the small screen and I wonder if in thirty years time we'll remember a show like Discovery, Picard or Strange New Worlds as fondly as TNG, DS9 or VOY. Time will tell, but I don't think so.
 
Tomalak said:
It was supposed to bring in a new audience of kids via Nickelodeon, but clearly did not do that.
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It's virtually impossible to become a hit show on Nickelodeon today. Seems like if it isn't a legacy brand it doesn't last long. They simply don't allow shows the time to find their audience.
 
StarWars - Skeleton Crew was supposed to bring in a new audience (kids) for that franchise as well, I'm not sure it succeeded either.
 
Visitor1982 said:
We don't know these characters at all and the fact we get 10 heavy action episodes with big threats about world or universe ending madness every one or two years doesn't help either... Not every episode needs to be The Visitor or In The Pale Moonlight, but like half of them would be nice...
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We don’t? DISCO liked the big threats and world/universe ending threats but that’s not SNW’s jam. I think get the same sort of character tidbits in SNW that we got in TNG. Often in episodes where a character isn’t “front and center.”
 
Visitor1982 said:
StarWars - Skeleton Crew was supposed to bring in a new audience (kids) for that franchise as well, I'm not sure it succeeded either.
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They continually assume that you have to have kid characters for kids to care about the project. But kids cared about the original movie back in the day, despite the lack of kid characters.
 
Set Harth said:
They continually assume that you have to have kid characters for kids to care about the project. But kids cared about the original movie back in the day, despite the lack of kid characters.
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9 years ago, I signed up to this dubious site to discuss how awful STD was. I figured it would be a great place to voice the lazy writing, nonsensical plots, mushroom drive, chain of command failure, etc.....
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site. New Trek can do no harm, only the toxic fan base was to blame. You know those damn trolls. I was told keep watching it, it will get better. Then I was told, if I didn't like it, why would I keep watching it?
I guess the simple answer is everybody likes watching a train wreck. On that score, Kurtzman has delivered.
That chart doesn't tell who watched and liked it, nor who watched it for the train wrek.
Since comparing streaming to old Network TV, is apple's and oranges. How does STD, STP, LD, PROD, SNW, S31, SFA compare to all of the Yellowstone sagas, or landman, in terms of viewer retention/burnout?
It's been said, New Trek was a success because it's been prolific for all these years. Maybe, that's why Maga can't accept the fact that Trump sucks. They can't admit that they were wrong in the first place for wanting that idiot.
 
Mechanoid1 said:
9 years ago, I signed up to this dubious site to discuss how awful STD was. I figured it would be a great place to voice the lazy writing, nonsensical plots, mushroom drive, chain of command failure, etc.....
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site. New Trek can do no harm, only the toxic fan base was to blame. You know those damn trolls. I was told keep watching it, it will get better. Then I was told, if I didn't like it, why would I keep watching it?
I guess the simple answer is everybody likes watching a train wreck. On that score, Kurtzman has delivered.
That chart doesn't tell who watched and liked it, nor who watched it for the train wrek.
Since comparing streaming to old Network TV, is apple's and oranges. How does STD, STP, LD, PROD, SNW, S31, SFA compare to all of the Yellowstone sagas, or landman, in terms of viewer retention/burnout?
It's been said, New Trek was a success because it's been prolific for all these years. Maybe, that's why Maga can't accept the fact that Trump sucks. They can't admit that they were wrong in the first place for wanting that idiot.
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🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
 
Mechanoid1 said:
9 years ago, I signed up to this dubious site to discuss how awful STD was. I figured it would be a great place to voice the lazy writing, nonsensical plots, mushroom drive, chain of command failure, etc.....
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site. New Trek can do no harm, only the toxic fan base was to blame. You know those damn trolls. I was told keep watching it, it will get better. Then I was told, if I didn't like it, why would I keep watching it?
I guess the simple answer is everybody likes watching a train wreck. On that score, Kurtzman has delivered.
That chart doesn't tell who watched and liked it, nor who watched it for the train wrek.
Since comparing streaming to old Network TV, is apple's and oranges. How does STD, STP, LD, PROD, SNW, S31, SFA compare to all of the Yellowstone sagas, or landman, in terms of viewer retention/burnout?
It's been said, New Trek was a success because it's been prolific for all these years. Maybe, that's why Maga can't accept the fact that Trump sucks. They can't admit that they were wrong in the first place for wanting that idiot.
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Heaven forbid people have different opinions than you.

Perhaps r/startrek is more your speed, since they seem to wallow in that toxic hate for new Trek.
 
Mechanoid1 said:
guess the simple answer is everybody likes watching a train wreck. On that score, Kurtzman has delivered.
That chart doesn't tell who watched and liked it, nor who watched it for the train wrek.
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I hate train wrecks and the fact that people keep watching proves no love for Star Trek exists; only bitterness.


Firebird said:
Heaven forbid people have different opinions than you.

Perhaps r/startrek is more your speed, since they seem to wallow in that toxic hate for new Trek.
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No diversity is allowed. You must hate all new Trek.

This is the way and so say we all
 
Mechanoid1 said:
9 years ago, I signed up to this dubious site to discuss how awful STD was. I figured it would be a great place to voice the lazy writing, nonsensical plots, mushroom drive, chain of command failure, etc.....
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site. New Trek can do no harm, only the toxic fan base was to blame. You know those damn trolls. I was told keep watching it, it will get better. Then I was told, if I didn't like it, why would I keep watching it?
I guess the simple answer is everybody likes watching a train wreck. On that score, Kurtzman has delivered.
That chart doesn't tell who watched and liked it, nor who watched it for the train wrek.
Since comparing streaming to old Network TV, is apple's and oranges. How does STD, STP, LD, PROD, SNW, S31, SFA compare to all of the Yellowstone sagas, or landman, in terms of viewer retention/burnout?
It's been said, New Trek was a success because it's been prolific for all these years. Maybe, that's why Maga can't accept the fact that Trump sucks. They can't admit that they were wrong in the first place for wanting that idiot.
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You need the Twitter and Youtube algorithms if you're looking for confirmation bias.
 
Mechanoid1 said:
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site.
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I’ve spent the last nine years largely beating the virtual fuck out of CBS live action Trek. But there’s a difference in being critical and being stupid.

When one buys into social media nonsense about 40,000 viewers without any actual evidence, they are being massively stupid. Even more so when they pass it around like religious scripture.
 
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Mechanoid1 said:
9 years ago, I signed up to this dubious site to discuss how awful DSC was. I figured it would be a great place to voice the lazy writing, nonsensical plots, mushroom drive, chain of command failure, etc.....
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site.
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Wait what? You registered for a star trek fan site explicitly to hate on star trek and then got annoyed there were star trek fans on the star trek fan site?
 
Mechanoid1 said:
How does STD, STP, LD, PROD, SNW, S31, SFA compare to all of the Yellowstone sagas, or landman, in terms of viewer retention/burnout?
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Well, Yellowstone itself ended after five seasons, and none of its spin-offs have lasted as long. I guess by the logic of this thread, that franchise is an indisputable failure?

For that matter, the only one of Taylor Sheridan's other shows to get five seasons is Mayor of Kingstown. And that too is ending with the fifth season. Good god, Taylor Sheridan only produces failures! No wonder Paramount fired him forcing him to run with his tail tucked between his legs to Peacock.

:lol:
 
The Wormhole said:
Well, Yellowstone itself ended after five seasons, and none of its spin-offs have lasted as long. I guess by the logic of this thread, that franchise is an indisputable failure?

For that matter, the only one of Taylor Sheridan's other shows to get five seasons is Mayor of Kingstown. And that too is ending with the fifth season. Good god, Taylor Sheridan only produces failures! No wonder Paramount fired him forcing him to run with his tail tucked between his legs to Peacock.

:lol:
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Serves him right, the miserable yellow bellied failure!
 
Mechanoid1 said:
9 years ago, I signed up to this dubious site to discuss how awful STD was. I figured it would be a great place to voice the lazy writing, nonsensical plots, mushroom drive, chain of command failure, etc.....
Instead I found it to be a Star Trek love fest site. New Trek can do no harm, only the toxic fan base was to blame. You know those damn trolls. I was told keep watching it, it will get better. Then I was told, if I didn't like it, why would I keep watching it?
I guess the simple answer is everybody likes watching a train wreck. On that score, Kurtzman has delivered.
That chart doesn't tell who watched and liked it, nor who watched it for the train wrek.
Since comparing streaming to old Network TV, is apple's and oranges. How does STD, STP, LD, PROD, SNW, S31, SFA compare to all of the Yellowstone sagas, or landman, in terms of viewer retention/burnout?
It's been said, New Trek was a success because it's been prolific for all these years. Maybe, that's why Maga can't accept the fact that Trump sucks. They can't admit that they were wrong in the first place for wanting that idiot.
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Wow, you and I have a far different opinion of this place. Frankly, there are people here who dislike a lot of the Kurtzman era. Most actually have fair points and decent discussions about it. Many also try to look at it objectively, not just shit on it. There are a lot of other places on the web that you can do that if you don’t appreciate the level of nuance here.
 
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