Will P+ grant the rights to H&I for all of those shows?
Kurtzman Trek = Streaming. Technological difference.
Would P+ be able to technologically do it even if they wanted to?
Most of the new shows you mentioned have barely finished airing. Licensing deals for syndication typically don’t start until well after a show has completed its initial airing, so you’re comparing apples to oranges.
Hell, I’m fairly certain no streaming-original series have been picked up for deals outside of the platform. That kinda kills the entire point of the exclusivity of the service. You can’t apply pre-Netflix rules to the media landscape we’re in today and claim some sort of moralistic victory.
I'm sure @Mudd can provide you with the chart showing the audience decline from TNG to ENT in the years the shows were airing originally.
They really didn't or else they wouldn't have greenlit two direct sequels to it and continued to pump out whatever Trek they could. When folks try to say everything is a failure because it finally ran its course (like most entertainment properties) they are just deluding themselves and for no good reason.
Plus, for strip syndication, you really need 100 episodes. Which really isn't a thing any streaming show ever reached. Stranger Things only had 42 episodes, and I don't think anyone would consider it a failure.
This, right here. We wouldn't have gotten a decade of new Trek series if Discovery or any of the other shows had been the disaster certain corners of the internet keep whinging over. That's simply not how the industry works.
You mean they aren't flushing money down a toilet for shits-and-giggles?! Or to piss off longtime fans?!
A shocking truth, right?
I'm pretty sure most folks know what I think of most of CBS Trek. Same time, I don't think the production staff head to the writers' room thinking, "what will piss of Bill this week?! While laughing manically. World has simply changed a lot (and will continue to change), and Trek will too as new writers, directors, actors with different experiences come and go.
The running YouTube and social media nonsense is a disgrace to both Trek fans (new and long running) and Trek itself. IDIC indeed.
This.
It baffles my mind the assignment of evil intent to production teams and that they are deliberately trying to piss off fans.
Toxic fan entitlement has been allowed to fester and run wild.
It is notable that every Trek pilot gets a spike in viewership above the series. So the fans of the franchise are there, its just about keeping them.
I think there is an audience out there for Trek, but I also think burnout starts to set in after a while with everyone but the hardest of hardcore fans. I think the same thing is happening with the Star Wars franchise, just too much product. When you're pumping out that much, it starts to lose its specialness. At least, for me.
Law of diminishing returns.
Then the Berman era was a nuclear disaster:
TNG was the only success.
Every other Trek spinoff they did only LOST viewers after their pilot episodes.
1 for 5 ain't a good average.
But that's the golden age!Then the Berman era was a nuclear disaster:
TNG was the only success.
Every other Trek spinoff they did only LOST viewers after their pilot episodes.
1 for 5 ain't a good average.
Since DS9 and VOY both had over 170 episodes produced, in 7 seasons. I don"t think anyone can call that a failure. The only failure was Enterprise, which was the only show that got cancelled prematurely. Sure, the ratings went down year by year on the shows mentioned, but it was still a success based on syndication numbers or UPN numbers, numbers Paramount+ could never reach with Star Trek. Canceling almost all of the shows before their time is not considered a success, call me crazy for saying that!Then the Berman era was a nuclear disaster:
TNG was the only success.
Every other Trek spinoff they did only LOST viewers after their pilot episodes.
1 for 5 ain't a good average.
Wow, even Enterprise (considered the worst since STD,STP,S31,SFA) had 100X more viewers than SFA.