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Wrestling (AEW, WWE, etc)

Weyoun 251 said:
If I was a betting man I'd say that the finish will lead to Punk v Roman v Finn triple threat
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If it was me booking WM, it would be {Finn(C) vs CM Punk vs Roman Reigns vs Chad Gable vs Bronson Reed vs Sami Zyan vs Shinsuke Nakamura} in a "Scintillating Seven-Way".

Each one of those guys can easily lay claim to being World Champion Material or close enough.
- Finn beats CM Punk in Chicago at Elimination Chamber, with a little bit of help from "The Judgement Day" & becomes WHC
- CM Punk is screwed out of the Championship due to interference, especially his "Wrestling Daughter" Roxanne Perez playing a role in screwing over her "Wrestling Dad"
- Roman Reigns won the Royal Rumble, so he has a obvious reason to be their.
- Chad Gable is aspiring to become a World Champion and recently beats Finn on a random RAW in a qualifying match
- Bronson Reed beat Roman Reigns in Australian Street Fight, so he's more than qualified as the man who beat Roman Reigns
- Sami Zayn is still chasing for the World Title & won't give up despite losing @ the Royal Rumble
- Shinsuke Nakamura is still chasing for the World Title.
 
Mania night one is almost upon us

1) 6 man tag- Logan Paul and Austin Theory plus iShowSpeed vs The Usos and LA Knight
2) Jacob Fatu v Drew McIntyre - unsanctioned match
3) Womens champ match - Stephanie Vaquer v Liv Morgan
4) Women's IC - AJ Lee v Becky Lynch
5) Women's tag 4 way - Nia and Lash v Charlotte and Alexa v Bayley and Lyra v Bella Twins
6) Seth v Gunter
7) Cody v Randy

My predictions in bold
 
Weyoun 251 said:
Mania night one is almost upon us

1) 6 man tag- Logan Paul and Austin Theory plus iShowSpeed vs The Usos and LA Knight
2) Jacob Fatu v Drew McIntyre - unsanctioned match
3) Womens champ match - Stephanie Vaquer v Liv Morgan
4) Women's IC - AJ Lee v Becky Lynch
5) Women's tag 4 way - Nia and Lash v Charlotte and Alexa v Bayley and Lyra v Bella Twins
6) Seth v Gunter
7) Cody v Randy

My predictions in bold
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1) Uso's + LA Knight will get the win, but via DQ/Shenanigans caused by iShowSpeed/The Vision, The Vision will retain the belts somehow
2) Jacob Fatu is most likely to win, Drew McIntyre has to go film "Highlander"
3) Liv Morgan will win with TJD help, it's going to end up 5 vs 1
4) Becky Lynch is going to win, AJ Lee will take time off and go do something else again before showing up weeks later
5) Bayley & Lyra are my predictions (I think Nikki isn't cleared to wrestle, so a newly returning Paige is coming in to sub for Nikki)
6) Seth is going to win, he has more reasons to fight against "The Vision"; regardless Seth will get jumped after the match regardless of results
7) Randy is going in injured according to rumors, but he'll most likely win, Pat McAfee will help cheat on Randy's behalf.

The entire Pat McAfee inclusion by TKO is complete garbage booking.
The only reason it even happened is because Ari Emanuel, CEO of TKO, can over-ride HHH & WWE Creative since he's higher up on the Corporate Ladder.
The fact that Ari sees Pat McAfee as the "Next Sylvester Stallone" is baffling to me.
I can't even see Pat McAfee as the "Next Ralph Machio", much less any lower ranked Hollywood star.
 
Kamen Rider Blade said:
1) Uso's + LA Knight will get the win, but via DQ/Shenanigans caused by iShowSpeed/The Vision, The Vision will retain the belts somehow
2) Jacob Fatu is most likely to win, Drew McIntyre has to go film "Highlander"
3) Liv Morgan will win with TJD help, it's going to end up 5 vs 1
4) Becky Lynch is going to win, AJ Lee will take time off and go do something else again before showing up weeks later
5) Bayley & Lyra are my predictions (I think Nikki isn't cleared to wrestle, so a newly returning Paige is coming in to sub for Nikki)
6) Seth is going to win, he has more reasons to fight against "The Vision"; regardless Seth will get jumped after the match regardless of results
7) Randy is going in injured according to rumors, but he'll most likely win, Pat McAfee will help cheat on Randy's behalf.

The entire Pat McAfee inclusion by TKO is complete garbage booking.
The only reason it even happened is because Ari Emanuel, CEO of TKO, can over-ride HHH & WWE Creative since he's higher up on the Corporate Ladder.
The fact that Ari sees Pat McAfee as the "Next Sylvester Stallone" is baffling to me.
I can't even see Pat McAfee as the "Next Ralph Machio", much less any lower ranked Hollywood star.
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Barney Stinson takes issue with you slagging of Ralph Macchio
 
today and tomorrow is wrestlemania 42 aka the super bowl of wwe aka the stanley cup of sports entertaniment wrestling aka world cup of titan towers aka the olympics of tko pro wrestling division
 
that has to be one of the worst main events in all of Wrestlemania history. I don’t get why they added that prick, Pat into it. He just ruined everything
 
thribs said:
that has to be one of the worst main events in all of Wrestlemania history. I don’t get why they added that prick, Pat into it. He just ruined everything
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It wasn't by choice, Ari Emanuel, the CEO of TKO inserted him.

He's the talent agent for Pat McAfee and sees him as the "Next Big Thing" in Hollywood for some reason.

So he wanted to insert him into WrestleMania because the only person who can out-rank HHH & Nick Khan in WWE is Ari Emanuel.

That's why we got what we got.

We also got more "Shoot Promo's" & "Pipe Bomb Promo's" in 3 weeks build to WM than the past 10 years.

All discussing the BS that TKO is forcing on WWE.

The internal corporate conflict between WWE & TKO is boiling out into the product storylines unfortunately.
 
Well, that was an absolute bag of shite. 80 minutes of wrestling on a 4 hour show. Constant adverts, clips from the white-washing Hulk Hogan documentary and "look at this famous American sportsperson!" in the crowd. Why was Stephanie/Liv only about five minutes long? They usually give the title matches decent time at WM. No Only Seth/Gunther felt like a WrestleMania worthy match in the ring, and they probably have a better match in them (I'll excuse the Bron finish because at least it made storyline sense.)

Cody/Orton was a complete mess. After taking Pat out at the start, they worked it like Cody was maybe going heel and Orton face, with Orton heroically struggling with a back injury. Then Pat runs out as a referee, does a normal count (if he's on Orton's side why not just fast count?), Orton RKOs him for no reason and loses Then does his ultimate heel move the punt to Cody at the end. What the Hell was that?

No wonder they didn't let the ESPN journalist who gave Wrestle Palazoo a bad review in.
 
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WWE Wait Time Stats:

Total Wait Times = 02:28:47
Total Match Time = 01:23:29
Total NetFlix Ad Time = 00:23:30
65% of the show was "Non-Wrestling"
35% of the show was "Actual Wrestling"


In Contrast, here is AEW's last PPV which was last weekend

AEW's most recent PPV on 2026.04.12 = AEW Dynasty 2026 = RunTime of 4:18:40

13 Matches Total
_4 Matches on Pre-Show
_9 Matches on the PPV

0:29:25 Actual Match Time on Pre-Show
The Pre-Show was the only place where matches were Single Digits in Minutes
With the Shortest one being 1 Minute, 25 Second squash match for a returning Kamille
3/4 Matches were Single Digit Minute Matches
1/4 Matches were Double Digit Minute Matches

2:58:20 Actual Match Time on the PPV
≈ 69% of the Run Time was Actual Wrestling
Every Single PPV Match was Double Digits in Minutes
Shortest Match was 10 Minutes Exact
All the other matches exceeded 14 Minutes

In contrast to WM 42 Night 1:
4/7 Matches were Single Digit Minutes in Length
3/7 Matches were Double Digit Minutes in Length
2x Double Digit Minute Matches were 14:10 & 15:45 respectively
Longest Match was the Main Event @ 22:55
Rest of the Night was Advertisement Mania

AEW is WAY Cheaper in Ticket Prices, you get more Wrestling for your Money, FAR Less Advertisements in show.
 
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Kamen Rider Blade said:
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WWE Wait Time Stats:

Total Wait Times = 02:28:47
Total Match Time = 01:23:29
Total NetFlix Ad Time = 00:23:30
65% of the show was "Non-Wrestling"
35% of the show was "Actual Wrestling"


In Contrast, here is AEW's last PPV which was last weekend

AEW's most recent PPV on 2026.04.12 = AEW Dynasty 2026 = RunTime of 4:18:40

13 Matches Total
_4 Matches on Pre-Show
_9 Matches on the PPV

0:29:25 Actual Match Time on Pre-Show
The Pre-Show was the only place where matches were Single Digits in Minutes
With the Shortest one being 1 Minute, 25 Second squash match for a returning Kamille
3/4 Matches were Single Digit Minute Matches
1/4 Matches were Double Digit Minute Matches

2:58:20 Actual Match Time on the PPV
≈ 69% of the Run Time was Actual Wrestling
Every Single PPV Match was Double Digits in Minutes
Shortest Match was 10 Minutes Exact
All the other matches exceeded 14 Minutes

In contrast to WM 42 Night 1:
4/7 Matches were Single Digit Minutes in Length
3/7 Matches were Double Digit Minutes in Length
2x Double Digit Minute Matches were 14:10 & 15:45 respectively
Longest Match was the Main Event @ 22:55
Rest of the Night was Advertisement Mania

AEW is WAY Cheaper in Ticket Prices, you get more Wrestling for your Money, FAR Less Advertisements in show.
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the funny thing about aew thought is that there are many dark sides to aew ppvs thought lol
 
Kamen Rider Blade said:
That's modern WWE/TKO.

If you want a Wrestling Show to actually give you more Wrestling, watch AEW.

The vast majority of it is filled with actual Wrestling, very few Ads/Commercials.
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that is true about aew

but aew has its share of contraversys mostly when it comes to the aew ppvs like how many matches there are on aew ppvs and how long the matches are on aew ppvs

and as for wwe well that is true too

but the now era in wwe had its share of contraversys mostly when it comes to who is gonna be on the wwe ppvs aka ple and how there are less matches at the wwe ple aka ppvs and how the matches on ple aka ppvs are not long anymore
 
camdudetenger2018 said:
but aew has its share of contraversys mostly when it comes to the aew ppvs like how many matches there are on aew ppvs and how long the matches are on aew ppvs
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Before WWE got sold to TKO & became the Paul "HHH" Levesque era, WWE used to have that many matches on the card as well.

They also had longer matches & filled with far less ads in all their PPV's.

Go ahead, look at the older WM before the TKO era.
e.g. WM 35 had 16 matches in total, 4x of those 16x Matches were on the Pre-Show card

AEW's Match Card Line-Up isn't too crazy, it's just similar to how WWE used to do their Match Card setup.

camdudetenger2018 said:
and as for wwe well that is true too

but the now era in wwe had its share of contraversys mostly when it comes to who is gonna be on the wwe ppvs aka ple and how there are less matches at the wwe ple aka ppvs and how the matches on ple aka ppvs are not long anymore
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All the extra Match Time got swapped for more Advertisement time.

<Sarcasm> You got to love how nearly 2/3rd of the PPV time = Advertisement time now. </Sarcasm>
 
That was a better main event. Overall Night 2 was a fun show. Only thing I would change is having Jade win.
 
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