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I can't really see how Mara Jade would even work in Disney canon. She would be so reinvented that she'd effectively be a different character.
That’s also the reason why Dave Filoni decided against bringing back Starkiller as an inquisitor.

It could also mean they already have plans for her.
 
I can't really see how Mara Jade would even work in Disney canon. She would be so reinvented that she'd effectively be a different character.
I think it *can* work in a way that preserves what made her interesting. Whether they should is another question entirely. Personally I don't see a burning need for it, much less it being the no-brainer that Thrawn was. That said, I'd take Mara over a canon version of the likes of the Vong, Daala, or Abeloth any day!

I've put forward this idea a few times over the years; but I still think the way to do it is to bring in both Mara Jade and Starkiller into the same story, and basically make Juno Eclipse one of her cover identities. That way you eliminate the "Luke Problem", have Mara's motivations actually make more sense, give the Juno character way more agency, and largely contain the majority of the action to the Rise of the Empire Era.
You can still have her show up in the New Republic Era working for Karrde, could even have her interacting with Luke during the Thrawn crisis, free of any need to have anything resembling romantic interest.

All that being said, if it's a choice between having Mara Jade in Filloni's Thrawn wrap-up movie, or a live action Ventress filling a similar role, I'd definitely go with Ventress!
 
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I'm not a fan of the sequel trilogy at all, but I would not engage with anything that disregarded it just out of general principle.
I just want to know who started this all those years ago. Who convinced these people of the myth "if they make SW sequels they will be based on the Thrawn books". This was prevalent on usenet in the 90s and it has somehow gone on to become this Jason Voorhees-like zombie belief system that will never completely die.
 
I'm not a fan of the sequel trilogy at all, but I would not engage with anything that disregarded it just out of general principle.

That is why I would shunt it off to a alternate timeline. While I am okay with them replacing it I do like the idea of sort of keeping it alive for the fans who do like the sequel movies. It's kind of the best of both worlds. One of things I admired about the Kelvinverse is they made sure to not erase the Prime timeline while still creating a new one.
 
That is why I would shunt it off to a alternate timeline. While I am okay with them replacing it I do like the idea of sort of keeping it alive for the fans who do like the sequel movies. It's kind of the best of both worlds. One of things I admired about the Kelvinverse is they made sure to not erase the Prime timeline while still creating a new one.
No, Star Wars doesn't do alternate timelines. And this is just a horrible idea in general, trying reorganize everything would just be nightmare and it's really not worth it just because a handful of fans can't get over the fact that the old EU was decanonized.
Even Star Trek, which has a long history of alternate timelines didn't got this route when it became clear the Paramount+ shows were moving past Nemesis and taking things in a different direction from the books.
 
No, Star Wars doesn't do alternate timelines. And this is just a horrible idea in general, trying reorganize everything would just be nightmare and it's really not worth it just because a handful of fans can't get over the fact that the old EU was decanonized.
Even Star Trek, which has a long history of alternate timelines didn't got this route when it became clear the Paramount+ shows were moving past Nemesis and taking things in a different direction from the books.

I wasn't really thinking of go 100% accurate with the books. More along the lines of simply creating a new future past the Classic trilogy. They can take things from the books if they want but also do new things as well.

I was more thinking alone the likes of what Trek did with the Kelvinverse. It preserves two timelines at once. Which means if someone ever wanted to do something else like say that Steven Soderbergh movie with Adam Driver they could still do that as well.
 
The theory that the World Between Worlds could be used to create an alternate timeline is already out there. That when Ezra pulled Ahsoka out of the lightsaber battle with Vader it created a different outcome to that confrontation where she didn't quietly walk away from the battle, leaving Vader to slink off with damaged armor. That history diverged thanks to Ezra rescuing her.
 
Ok, I didn't think of that, but that doesn't change the fact that I still think that's a horrible idea.
 
I think one of the issues of staying in one universe to long is the setting becomes to defined and then issues with canon start to prop up and if you make something bad your still sort stuck with it even if you don't want it and thus have the find ways to write around it.

I mean it is kind of interesting to think that something might come along and sort of salvage the sequel movies in the same way The Clone Wars cartoon made the bad prequels a little better. A clen slate though always makes more sense to me though at some point. After a dozen movies and several tv series the universe is pretty filled out and defined at this point.
 
The theory that the World Between Worlds could be used to create an alternate timeline is already out there. That when Ezra pulled Ahsoka out of the lightsaber battle with Vader it created a different outcome to that confrontation where she didn't quietly walk away from the battle, leaving Vader to slink off with damaged armor. That history diverged thanks to Ezra rescuing her.
That's not how the WBW works.
It's all the will of the force, it was predestination.
 
That's not how the WBW works.
Only because Filoni won't let it. But in theory if you had the WBW you could change things.
The theory that the World Between Worlds could be used to create an alternate timeline is already out there. That when Ezra pulled Ahsoka out of the lightsaber battle with Vader it created a different outcome to that confrontation where she didn't quietly walk away from the battle, leaving Vader to slink off with damaged armor. That history diverged thanks to Ezra rescuing her.
A case could be made that her walking away is because of Ezra's action. That in the 'original' sequence of events Vader killed her.
 
The theory that the World Between Worlds could be used to create an alternate timeline is already out there. That when Ezra pulled Ahsoka out of the lightsaber battle with Vader it created a different outcome to that confrontation where she didn't quietly walk away from the battle, leaving Vader to slink off with damaged armor. That history diverged thanks to Ezra rescuing her.
That would only hold true if we didn't see her walking away at the end of season 2, long before we saw 'World Between Worlds'. Of course we did see exactly that, therefore it's a closed loop. No branching. Ezra always pulled her out of that moment, and she always returned safely.

Filloni has said many times that this is not time travel, and it would not go well for anyone attempting to use it as such. Ezra didn't travel into the past and Ahsoka didn't get pulled into the future. They both went to a place where time has no meaning. That's why we heard echos from up and down the timeline, all the way to TFA. It all converges at that point.

It's also worth keeping in mind that what was saw was just Ahsoka's and Ezra's perception of that place. Similar to Mortis, it's not a literal place, but a highly figurative one.

If people want alternate timelines of Star Wars, they have the old Legends stuff, Visions, and a the Legoverse to cater to that itch.
 
Ezra always pulled her out of that moment, and she always returned safely.
In the final (current) state of the timeline, that is.
Filloni has said many times that this is not time travel, and it would not go well for anyone attempting to use it as such.
Why not?

Because the writers/showrunners won't allow it.

Not because there's any in-universe mechanism preventing it that we know of.
Ezra didn't travel into the past
His hand did.
 
I think one of the issues of staying in one universe to long is the setting becomes to defined and then issues with canon start to prop up and if you make something bad your still sort stuck with it even if you don't want it and thus have the find ways to write around it.

I mean it is kind of interesting to think that something might come along and sort of salvage the sequel movies in the same way The Clone Wars cartoon made the bad prequels a little better. A clen slate though always makes more sense to me though at some point. After a dozen movies and several tv series the universe is pretty filled out and defined at this point.
It's really not that filled out, there's a lot of stuff in a two or three hundred year period, but there are still thousands of years before that we really don't know much about, and there is absolutely nothing to stop them from moving farther forward.
 
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