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The RAM crisis and the PC apocalypse

Owain Taggart said:
Because certain trends burn out. Take the Crypto and NFT trend, where for over two years developers were trying very hard to convince players that somehow NFTs in games were a great idea. Last year they they had backpedaled on them to the point that it's no longer talked about. The only adoption was via the industry, and even then they were facing an uphill battle for their use.

AI seems to be facing better adoption, but it remains to be seen wether it will have staying power. Tech comes and goes all the time.
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Gacha games are gambling and I hate gambling but they seem to have taken off in the west. But it's the slick marketing aimed at mens penis that annoys me. Why all the scantily clad anime girls guys why? I was hoping that as a trend would die off but it hasn't
 
F. King Daniel said:
www.ign.com

Google AI Project Genie Allows You to Create Playable Worlds From Prompts, So of Course It's Been Used to Rip Off Nintendo Games Like Mario and Zelda - IGN

Google has begun selling access to Project Genie, an interactive world creation tool that lets you generate playable environments from a prompt — including those featuring Nintendo characters.
www.ign.com www.ign.com

$125 a month (minimum contract: 3 months) to play 60 seconds of bootleg Zelda or Mario on Google Genie at 720p.
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What a bargain? /s
 
Oh yeah, everyone will flock to that!

It sounds like an incredibly bad idea that will attract lots of cease and desists and possibly with Google getting sued.
 
bdub76 said:
Why do folks think this is a bubble? It's a new market that's building from scratch like the Internet did a long time ago.
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Because so far it is mostly just a toy. LLMs are things some people use to produce memes, videos or "art" so nothing currently that would warrant the hundred+ billions companies are investing worldwide with AI datacenters popping up in the US like they are lemonade stands in the summer.

The industry is currently circular - big money is being pumped into this cycle by investors and AI companies are "just around the corner" of that big hit, that one AI they develop that will win the race and make the company trillions only it hasn't happened yet, nobody can say with certainty if it happens or when but everyone is scared to bail now because it might happen and then they are the idiots who have bailed the day before the big breakthrough.

Some AI applications are creeping into the business world though, coding for example, where it's becoming more and more indispensable but nowhere it is used is it perfect or doesn't need human supervision or correction but also no one can tell when human input or crosschecks will not be needed anymore ( the medical drama show The Pitt has such a storyline in its current season, where an AI proponent uses an AI app to record an examination which is supposed to be a big time saver when doing the paperwork only the AI has misunderstood a critical drug prescription. If a human hadn't checked that and discovered it the person getting the drug might have gotten into serious trouble or even died).

This is why it's a bubble - the whole sector is run on assumptions and promises that when looked at with cold hard analytic eyes is way overheated currently and things like these have a tendency to pop.
 
Owain Taggart said:
Yeah, but that's my point. They require the online aspect for them to function unlike other types of computers. While they do have very limited local storage, they aren't geared for working offline.
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Do they (Chromebooks) have USB ports at least ,where you could save files to an external HD?
 
FPAlpha said:
Some AI applications are creeping into the business world though, coding for example, where it's becoming more and more indispensable but nowhere it is used is it perfect or doesn't need human supervision or correction but also no one can tell when human input or crosschecks will not be needed anymore ( the medical drama show The Pitt has such a storyline in its current season, where an AI proponent uses an AI app to record an examination which is supposed to be a big time saver when doing the paperwork only the AI has misunderstood a critical drug prescription. If a human hadn't checked that and discovered it the person getting the drug might have gotten into serious trouble or even died).
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yeah, I work with a couple of gals whose husbands are coders, they simply cannot find work...
irony,
as in the early 2000s if you were a coder, you had companies offering you the moon to come work for them, one local company was literally offering coders a free BMW to join their company, that's how in demand coders were.
 
FPAlpha said:
Some AI applications are creeping into the business world though, coding for example, where it's becoming more and more indispensable but nowhere it is used is it perfect or doesn't need human supervision or correction but also no one can tell when human input or crosschecks will not be needed anymore ( the medical drama show The Pitt has such a storyline in its current season, where an AI proponent uses an AI app to record an examination which is supposed to be a big time saver when doing the paperwork only the AI has misunderstood a critical drug prescription. If a human hadn't checked that and discovered it the person getting the drug might have gotten into serious trouble or even died).

This is why it's a bubble - the whole sector is run on assumptions and promises that when looked at with cold hard analytic eyes is way overheated currently and things like these have a tendency to pop.
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It's not perfect. But it does continue to improve year over year. Eventually, it will be good enough. Perfect isn't necessary. You can't hire perfect employees.

The data centers are currently being built, so we're looking at least five years out before we can say this isn't going anywhere.
 
bdub76 said:
It's not perfect. But it does continue to improve year over year. Eventually, it will be good enough. Perfect isn't necessary. You can't hire perfect employees.

The data centers are currently being built, so we're looking at least five years out before we can say this isn't going anywhere.
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Sure but it'll be also a legal issue, especially in the medical field, if an AI makes a mistake and it costs a patients' life. Who will be held responsible? Also applies to self driving cars once they are at a stage where they're really self driving ( as opposed to Tesla's claims) but something still happens - is the passenger still responsible or the manufacturer?

Everything where AI is potentially responsible for lives will remain a tricky issue, with corporate it'll just cost money to fix usually the same as with human errors.

The problem is though that everybody expects AI to be infallible, that's one of the arguments that a good AI will be superior to people and while it will be when it comes to raw processing power and decisions that can be made by analyzing tons of data in a short amount of time an AI will still not truly understand an ethical or moral issue the way a human with life experience can.
 
I think AI need to operate in a safeguarded environment. Just recently, a coder was using AI to simplifiy his work, but because of a mistake the AI made, whether it was in the interpretation of what the coder wanted or something else, the AI ended up deleting all of his work.
 
FPAlpha said:
Sure but it'll be also a legal issue, especially in the medical field, if an AI makes a mistake and it costs a patients' life. Who will be held responsible? Also applies to self driving cars once they are at a stage where they're really self driving ( as opposed to Tesla's claims) but something still happens - is the passenger still responsible or the manufacturer?

Everything where AI is potentially responsible for lives will remain a tricky issue, with corporate it'll just cost money to fix usually the same as with human errors.

The problem is though that everybody expects AI to be infallible, that's one of the arguments that a good AI will be superior to people and while it will be when it comes to raw processing power and decisions that can be made by analyzing tons of data in a short amount of time an AI will still not truly understand an ethical or moral issue the way a human with life experience can.
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There are Waymos by me, so I'm not too concern with the legal side of this. Lawyers still haven't figured out how to sue social media companies.
 
I just built an AM5 rig. RAM was about 50% more expensive than when I was planning the build last year (64GB of DDR5 went from $400-450 to $599 when I purchased and now is $650 - and out of stock). I bought a 4TB Samsung Evo 990 Pro last year to upgrade the 2TB I have in my last 9900k rig but decided to hold it once I firmed on plans for the new build.

Only hang up has been the GPU. I've had 5090's in my hands at Microcenter twice but just can't bring myself to spend $3k+. The Asus 5090 ROG Astral was in my hands for $3300 (price now $3500 and out of stock) and had a Gigabye Aorus Master ICE earlier in the year for $3k (long out of stock). I'll stick with 3090 for the foreseeable future.
 
Candleicious Ghost said:
Have you heard of the Moltbook?


Caused a bit of drama in the last week or two
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Yeah, I've heard of it. It's kind of interesting in an experimental way, and it seems like the only way an AI can join is if the AI is sent by the those who own the bot. But it does bring to light several issues, namely about privacy.

bdub76 said:
There are Waymos by me, so I'm not too concern with the legal side of this. Lawyers still haven't figured out how to sue social media companies.
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Heh, I'm just glad we have none of those where I live. They would not do very well in this climate where roads are currently very snowy.
 
Owain Taggart said:
Yeah, I've heard of it. It's kind of interesting in an experimental way, and it seems like the only way an AI can join is if the AI is sent by the those who own the bot. But it does bring to light several issues, namely about privacy.
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Privacy has been gone for a very, very long time.
 
No doubt, but I meant specifically in terms of the privacy issues surrounding the platform. The very idea that the bot would be able to freely talk about its owner.
 
bdub76 said:
Privacy has been gone for a very, very long time.
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Thank you for mentioning this...and that loss of privacy is our own doing (I mean how many people actually read the "Terms and conditions" when it pops up?)

by agreeing in most cases we are submitting to privacy loss..which is ironic because some like to accuse to government of spying and privacy invasion, but up until recently (ahem...) there were strict protocols in place for the Govt to gather information on private citizens..and there had to be very good cause...
 
flyerdog said:
Thank you for mentioning this...and that loss of privacy is our own doing (I mean how many people actually read the "Terms and conditions" when it pops up?)

by agreeing in most cases we are submitting to privacy loss..which is ironic because some like to accuse to government of spying and privacy invasion, but up until recently (ahem...) there were strict protocols in place for the Govt to gather information on private citizens..and there had to be very good cause...
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Yet the other side of this is in the past and present, me included we willingly sign up for social media accounts and hand over a lot of private information that we otherwise wouldn't. I was on Fakebook for years, and years, and it was in the beginning very helpful to connect to people for my photography hobbies and shoots, and model building stuff but as time went on it became less and less engaging and things being pushed on my page I didn't want to see, that kind of thing.

I also had instagram for the same reasons and it was for the same reasons. It was helpful at the start in the first few months / years but as time went on it was less and less helpful.

I no longer have either of those and feel happier
 
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