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SINNERS is the finest vampire movie in at least 33 years

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I haven't seen this film yet but I was curious. People are calling it a horror film, but as someone who is not really a fan of Horror, how "horror" is it? Getting the record number of oscar nominations has peaked my interest, but I wanted to know from those who have seen it.
I think it's at Sinners is at it's best when it keeps the vampires on the q.t. When they start killing, they have to do that via cheezy special effects. Those take me out of the film, reminding me that this is a horror film. I think this film could be more than that--is more than that. It's about brothers, community, a failure of community, history, etc. That's why I think Let The Right One In (Swedish) is the best vampire film in the last 30 years. It's horror is second to it's story about relationships. The fact that the kids are the lonely weird kid is more important than the fact that Lili is a vampire. We don't even see her kill the bullies. It's artfully executed. More of that kind of art would have been welcome.
 
I think it's at Sinners is at it's best when it keeps the vampires on the q.t. When they start killing, they have to do that via cheezy special effects. Those take me out of the film, reminding me that this is a horror film. I think this film could be more than that--is more than that. It's about brothers, community, a failure of community, history, etc. That's why I think Let The Right One In (Swedish) is the best vampire film in the last 30 years. It's horror is second to it's story about relationships. The fact that the kids are the lonely weird kid is more important than the fact that Lili is a vampire. We don't even see her kill the bullies. It's artfully executed. More of that kind of art would have been welcome.

Thinking about the movie some more, I do feel like it went off the rails after the music sequence. It's why I don't think it should have taken the record for nominations, but even in that second half of the movie there were things that were entertaining, and I liked the credit sequences. I actually thought the vampires were a little more on the corny side than the horror side, which is why I said I think the horror elements were a little overstated.
 
Even after the vampire sequence starts, the movie is still about the relationship between the characters and their cultural histories.
It was, and that was the part of the second half I enjoyed. Smoke struggling on what to do with his brother was still really emotional and gut wrenching.
 
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I do intend to watch it at some point, if only because del Toro directed it. I also know that I should be avoiding the third one. :lol:
Not necessarily. If you're on of those people who enjoys seeing Parker Posey shout ''Hannibal King'' a lot, it's definitely your bag.:cool:
Agreed about Caton. He was terrific in this movie and with 16 nominations I was surprised he was not one of them.
Like Fredo Corleone, perhaps his character was too nice to nominate. Had Caton been the lead in TRAINING DAY, who the heck knows?:lol:
 
I actually got the Blu-ray for Christmas and finally got around to watching it last night. Suffice to say a second viewing has not dented my enjoyment in the slightest, if anything I think I enjoyed it more this time.

Much as I loved it in the cinema I had felt the first half was a little too much of a slow burn, but dang if this time the whole film didn't fly by.

Also, and it's a weird thing to say about the small screen compared to the big, but I don't think I fully appreciated how gorgeous this film is, nor how well shot (the bit where Lisa walks across the street and Grace comes back is just superb. There's a similar scene in the Juke Joint).

This time I was able to focus a little more on Jordan's performances and damn if he isn't great, each twin has his own distinct personality. The whole cast is just great though.

One new thing I picked up on, the club at the end appears to be called Pearline's :(

Just love it.
 
I got a lot more out of it the second time around as well. Knowing the end, I think it was brilliant how all the pieces were set carefully in place over the first hour. Jordan deserves the Oscar for his performance and great acting by the cast all round.

EDIT: My wife thought the brothers were played by two separate actors. She asked me which one was Michael B. Jordan and how they got someone who looked so much like him to play the other brother.
 
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When this movie came out last year, I said on Twitter that vampire movies always attract attention and would make 3-4 times its budget at the box office, and someone told me, "Dude, we're not living in the 2010s." Anyway, the movie was good.
 
Sinners was the #1 movie for me last year. It's one of the best horror/vampire movies I've seen. One of the things that really made it work for me was that it didn't even have to be a vampire movie. Coogler, et. al, did a great job fleshing out the characters and the world building that it could've worked almost as well without any horror. Of course though, the horror angle, put it on another level to me.
 
Four Oscars, not a bad haul!

Best Actor
Best Original Screenplay
Best Original Score
Best Cinematography
 
I'm extremely happy about all of those wins, especially Michael B. Jordan. I don't wish Coogler had won for directing but Anderson got bith directing and picture. Alas.
 
Anderson deserved the directing nod. He's been so close to that trophy a few times now.

Sinners got the recognition it deserved and it was cool seeing Brittaney Howard on stage.
 
I'm glad it wasn't a complete sweep. It just doesn't seem fun for me when something just grabs ALL the top prizes

I think Delroy Lindo or stellan skarsgård should have gotten the Oscar

Sean Penn will just melt his down once he receives it.
 
I'm glad it wasn't a complete sweep. It just doesn't seem fun for me when something just grabs ALL the top prizes
In my alternate Oscars, THE EXORCIST won all four acting prizes (Chris MacNeil, Regan MacNeil, Father Karras, Father Merrin). In reality it never got above three, and then only rarely for films such as STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE and NETWORK.
 
Anderson deserved the directing nod. He's been so close to that trophy a few times now.
I guess. I've never been a fan of his films and admittedly I haven't watched this particular one. I'm not saying it was undeserved for those who enjoyed it (although I've seen online discourse regarding its depiction of women, people of color, and the LGBTQ community), but I just wish Best Picture and Best Director was split between them like the screenplay and actor awards were split between them.

Sinners got the recognition it deserved and it was cool seeing Brittaney Howard on stage.
Definitely. I just feel like it probably deserved more. But that's just my own bias.
 
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It's always a little weird to split best director and best film though, I'm not sure what the split is of years when a film picks up both and when it doesn't+. You can of course direct a film well and yet another film is better because of a range of factors.

*Apparently it's around a 75/25 split, and it's probably more likely now that you have 10 best picture nominees but still only 5 best directors
 
I guess. I've never been a fan of his films and admittedly I haven't watched this particular one.
MAGNOLIA is quite underrrated. Don't believe the Kevin Smith/Ben Affleck anti-hype. Ribit. Ribit.
It's always a little weird to split best director and best film though, I'm not sure what the split is of years when a film picks up both and when it doesn't.
Years like 1939 merit such splits. (My alternate verdicts were OZ for Best Pic and MR. SMITH for direction.):cool:
 
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