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IIRC the radial beams were wild and could be lifted out. The only fixed part was over the command chair and the helm with the "artificial horizon" dome.
They would've had to have been. It bothered me once I noticed that solid ceiling meant there was no light source for the bridge in-universe, all the light had to have been coming from out-of-view ceiling panels and consoles being removed.

I suppose it's futuristic to not have any visible lights, but it's mostly weird.
 
They would've had to have been. It bothered me once I noticed that solid ceiling meant there was no light source for the bridge in-universe, all the light had to have been coming from out-of-view ceiling panels and consoles being removed.

I suppose it's futuristic to not have any visible lights, but it's mostly weird.
Still better than bright white lens flares everywhere you look, because the JJ bridge lights seemed to be mounted on the consoles and aimed sideways into people's faces. :crazy:
 
Well, now I'm surprised to have been a dumb kid who was right all along. They didn't outsmart me with a miniature ceiling, they outsmarted themselves with overspending. The budget on TMP inflated harmfully because so much was wasted.

What's worse, the TMP bridge they came up with isn't even beautiful. It's all bland and gray, and I dislike how the fixtures are shaped. Look how dashing the TV bridge was:


This still frame, with its angular shapes and the contrast of red highlights against the blacks, has more drama and techno-glamour than the whole movie did ten years later.

The TOS bridge is a production design masterpiece. And in the shot you chose— starboard stations manned!!!!! Yay!!!

(I do also quite like the bridge in TWOK.)

Edit—whoops, sorry for the two posts in a row.
 
Where was it? Could it have been a backlot?
I'm pretty sure it is the "Arab Village" portion of the famous 40 Acres backlot, which is where the other Rigel exteriors were shot. I've seen a photo of Hunter and Oliver running toward the entrance (which has a curved arch, which is real) without the fortress matted in. Where? I can't recall. Maybe on this very board.

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I'm pretty sure it is the "Arab Village" portion of the famous 40 Acres backlot, which is where the other Rigel exteriors were shot. I've seen a photo of Hunter and Oliver running toward the entrance (which has a curved arch, which is real) without the fortress matted in. Where? I can't recall. Maybe on this very board.

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Correct door. They filmed a long shot were they first meet and head for the door, then matted the fortress around it.
Yeah. And it looks like the Albert Whitlock painting was custom-made after the live action scene was filmed. It was the intention from scratch to work around the "blue colonnade" doorway in the Arab village location.

The real doorway (obviously):

And the purely painted doorway (if I'm not mistaken) meant to match it is here:
 
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Yeah, I believe this was straight-up just the engineering ceiling. I don't think I ever saw a ceiling in the hangar deck that wasn't either a model shot or later TOS-R CGI.

This is a crop of an image that you can see the rest of at http://www.startrekpropauthority.com/2012/03/rare-tos-behind-scenes-photos-part-xi.html
To judge from that ceiling design, Matt Jefferies thought Main Engineering was in the secondary hull. And fairly far aft, where the hull is narrower, because the Engine Room ceiling seems to span the whole width.

And maybe he thought the caged pipes went up into the angled pylons that support the warp engines. That's been a fan theory at times, and in Jefferies' mind it might have been canon.
 
Huh. The circular ceiling with radial beams reminds me of Lost in Space. The Jupiter 2's upper deck had a less elaborate, more skeletal version in the first year. These overhead beams divided the J2 into eight pie wedges, through which the set had to be lit.

This made lighting it more difficult and time-consuming, and they got rid of that faux-ceiling rig for the second season. So I still wonder if TMP would have saved both time and money by leaving the bridge open, and doing one or two fancy shots with a miniature ceiling in front of the camera.
The Jupiter 2 had the full overhead beams until the 3rd season, after which the studio moved the production to another soundstage to make room for Land of the Giants. The overhead beams were removed and never reinstalled. They also lost the basement, so the elevator never went down far after the move and most often, the ladder access was closed off.

The necessitated the creation of another stairwell. It's behind the doorway to the left of the elevator and you can see Williams and Goddard make "walking up stairs" movements when they enter the scene.
 
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