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Here's my unpopular opinion for "Voayger:" both "Resolutions" and "Natural Law" are horrible episodes, and not because I'm against either pairing. "Resolutions" is treated as gospel for JCers, and "Natural Law" seems to be similarly cherished in the C7 community.

I ship C7, but hate "Natural Law," because it's a boring, trite, filler episode that combines so many tired formulas of the show. Two people with opposing vievws are stranded on a planet together, Seven learns a lesson, rubber-forehead aliens played by tools who couldn't act in a soap opera. This lame episode does absolutely noting for Chakotay and Seven's relationship, except give it a flimsy justification before their last-minute hookup in "Endgame."

JC is okay if it's well-written, but it's so often not, and the reason is "Resolutions." Jeri Taylor's romance-novel fantasy was cringey as hell. Chakotay completely simps for Janeway, despite the fact that at this point, he still thinks the Maquis war is still giong on back home, and that Seska is carrying his kid. Never mind his close friendship with B'Elanna, and others of his crew, who he'll never see again. None of that's ever mentioned. Just how giddy he is about being stranded forever with Kathryn. Spock's beard do I hate this episode.

Meaningful moments for both JC and C7 can be found throughout the show, but these two cliche piles of tribble droppings are not among them.
 
If you mean a hint that Spock was telepathically influenced by other Vulcans from the era, yeah, that's one way of handwaving the episode's nonsensical approach to time travel. But aside from my problems with that idea, even if it were true, I have a hard time believing that Vulcans could be unaware of it to the extent of convincing themselves that most of them weren't telepathic. It would've been much harder for the Vulcans of the High Command era to dismiss telepathy as a minority practice if it were a constant part of every Vulcan's everyday existence, as opposed to a more occasional thing.

Hold on a second...

Vulcans at the time were linked with Spock, telepathy is a two way street.

WHAT IF Spock was the seed that started the whole thing? Logic was unknown then so such a disciplined mind was bound to be noticeable. Did someone pick up the idea?
 
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Sometimes I dislike the captain's chair being part of the bridge. There's something throne-like about it that feels wrong.

It makes sense to have a captain's chair for when the commanding officer is required to spend time on the bridge.
What I think is odd, is having the captain sit in the chair reading of a padd for an entire shift. It makes way more sense (as we have often seen) for the captain to be in his office, doing paper work, being able to have meetings with other officers, private communications with HQ, things like that. Whenever we have a scene where any captain is just there on the bridge looking at the screen while the ship is traveling somewhere, it think 'don't you have a job to do?'
And before people say, commanding the ship, that is what the above basically is. The department heads lead their own departments, the CO doesn't micromanage that to the last detail.
 
Yeah, I think the fact it's just chair in the center of a room, with no real consoles around that make it seem strange to me at times. As for the throne-like image, I agree its more prone in SNW and TOS. And then in Picard with the high steps on the Enterprise G. I much preferred BSG's table in the CIC, where the captain and XO could keep an eye on everything from the center.
 
Just saw 'Greyhound'. Star Trek is junk!

Star Trek the Next Generation is more so.

Why?

Because the actors involved, and those that directed them, for the most part didn't have a clue.

Okay, so you have this ship "out there "... what is it doing? Obeying a set of orders. Many, many orders.

It is not tea time. This what makes Star Trek junk. Helmsman? A set of orders regarding the helm position. Navigator? A set of orders regarding navigational requirements. Officer of the deck? A set of orders for that function, and a set of orders for each manned station.

Why?

So each knows exactly what to do. What each is going to be doing during normal watches. And abnormal watches.

Drill, drill, drill!

By the way, the best Destroyer Captains stayed on or near the bridge.
The bridge is not a tea party.

It is a place of work.

Why? Because the ship's survival depends upon this.
Just a reminder that Romulan Ale is illegal.
 
How so? I'm curious now that you said that.

BTW Vulcans as an added thought, what if they are telepathic all the time but have learnt through their teachings how to suppress the unwanted reading of thoughts of those around them?
There is possible precedent with that.

Miranda Jones in "IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY?" said she went to Vulcan to learn how not to read minds.
 
BTW Vulcans as an added thought, what if they are telepathic all the time but have learnt through their teachings how to suppress the unwanted reading of thoughts of those around them?

Again, that doesn't work given what Enterprise established about 22nd-century Vulcans believing that only a minority of the population was capable of telepathy. There's no way they could possibly have held that belief if it were active by default and they had to learn to turn it off.


Hold on a second...

Vulcans at the time were linked with Spock, telepathy is a two way street.

WHAT IF Spock was the seed that started the whole thing? Logic was unknown then so such a disciplined mind was bound to be noticeable. Did someone pick up the idea?

The timing doesn't work. Spock was c. 5000 years in the past, which would've been c. 3000 years before Surak.
 
Again, that doesn't work given what Enterprise established about 22nd-century Vulcans believing that only a minority of the population was capable of telepathy. There's no way they could possibly have held that belief if it were active by default and they had to learn to turn it off.

So, Enterprise is the lone outlier and, therefore, the one we can ignore.

Thats how that works, right?
 
So, Enterprise is the lone outlier and, therefore, the one we can ignore.

Thats how that works, right?

No. If it were a reference in a single episode that contradicted every other canonical reference, that could apply (e.g. "James R. Kirk" or "faster than light, no left or right"). But this isn't such a case. It's a plot point that was central to multiple episodes, and it isn't contradicted by any actual canonical information, just by some handwavey, completely unsupported speculation some people in this thread are tossing around. Speculation does not outweigh hard data.
 
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