Spoilers Stranger Things - Season 5

[FPAlpha]

The acting in all three episodes seemed average to me; nothing extraordinary. But of course, the Twitter crowd is already making fun of Millie Bobby Brown for her Botox and fillers, and convinced that Noah Schnapp is a terrible actor.

The Internet can suck a big one often enough when it's just people who want to stir up trouble, aka Internet Trolls. Everybody is of course entitled to their own opinion and that includes contrary opinions and i fully expected negative reactions because you can't please everybody. I have a feeling though that the majority likes the episodes so far.

I'm no beauty trend expert and i don't follow this but has Brown had some work done? At her age? And how would one know?

And concerning Schnapp i dare them to say that after they have seen his coming out scene, he knocked that out of the park. I feel his remarks concerning the Israel/Palestine situation is what's mainly causing the backlash.

 

[theenglish]

I haven't really talked much about the military plot and to be honest, I wish they had just not had it this season. It's so dumb and while I was excited for Hamilton to be on this series (I even mentioned her role being like that on Resident Alien), I wish she wasn't and I could remember her from Resident Alien instead. That whole plotline is dumb and just adds nothing to already a whole lot going on. They could just end all the military stuff by just blowing up the lab (Which is part of the plan anyway) but I hope there is a twist coming that is somewhat unexpected (How unexpected can things be in this internet culture).

I agree about the military plot line, especially treating the officers like they were Star Wars Imperial Troopers. I didn't liked the attacks on them in this recent installment of episodes. I can't imagine what is going to happen following this episode as there must have been reports that were transmitted outside of Hawkins. The only way to save our characters is to have some throwaway like they are actually a rogue operation, which would just make no sense.

 

[oktay]

I'm no beauty trend expert and i don't follow this but has Brown had some work done? At her age? And how would one know?

Looking at her face, it's obvious she's had cosmetic procedures, Botox, and fillers, especially when comparing her to previous seasons.

Also, there are a lot of young people in their 20s getting Botox, cosmetic procedures, and fillers.

And concerning Schnapp i dare them to say that after they have seen his coming out scene, he knocked that out of the park. I feel his remarks concerning the Israel/Palestine situation is what's mainly causing the backlash.

I agree that many people are reacting negatively to him because of his opinions on the Israel-Palestine issue. There are many celebrities in Hollywood who openly or secretly support Israel. But for some reason, Noah Schnapp and Gal Gadot, and those close to them, are particularly targeted. Anyway, I don't want to dwell on this and enter the neutral zone.

 

[Set Harth]

I'm no beauty trend expert and i don't follow this but has Brown had some work done?

I would think that should be somewhat obvious, for example this is her in the 80s:

 

[The Grinch Doctor]

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[camdudetenger2018]

next wedensday untill the great war in the upside down compound between the party and the mr whats it platoon

 

[theenglish]

I'm hoping that something happens that we weren't expecting. My complaint, and its a big one, is that this season hasn't really given us anything surprising.

 

[eschaton]

Finished Part 2 last night. Some general thoughts.

• I have the same general problem with the show as in Part 1. There's just way, way too much exposition, and it's weighing the show down horribly. So many scenes where the group all sit around coming up with cockamamie plans, finishing one another's sentences in an unrealistic manner. So many times that we see something happen onscreen, and then when characters reunite, it gets explained to the audience a second or third time. So many times a character gets a sudden "eureka" moment as needed by the plot. I come to the yard for the character beats, and seeing so much conversation degrade to plot machinations is a let down.
• That said, the character payoffs have at least been better this time. The Nancy/Jonathan breakup scene was good (even if it wasn't clear in the moment it was a breakup) and the Dustin/Steve breakdown and reforging was incredible. The Will coming out scene could have been incredible, but him literally coming out to everyone (Murray? Kali?) made it a bit comical.
• I'm one of the folks who's had a problem with Noah's acting this season. He feels like a one-trick pony who's great in any scene which requires crying and screaming, but he can't make the leaden exposition talk they're giving him in regular scenes sing. Millie isn't being given the best stuff either, which I think is hurting her performance. On an acting perspective, Sadie is basically carrying this season, though there are a lot of others, like Gaten, Caleb, etc., who are doing yeoman's work with the scripts as well.
• I heard there was a "big twist" coming, and the realization that we're inside a wormhole was...underwhelming? I really hope the finale has some big realizations, because I think the big plot (as opposed to the little machinations which are keeping the gang busy) is really, really thin this season.

 

[Set Harth]

• I come to the yard for the character beats

Not the milkshake?

 

[The Grinch Doctor]

The Nancy/Jonathan breakup scene was good (even if it wasn't clear in the moment it was a breakup)...

How so? Weren't the unproposal and the tossing the ring away clear enough for you?

...and the Dustin/Steve breakdown and reforging was incredible.

Told ya.

The Will coming out scene could have been incredible, but him literally coming out to everyone (Murray? Kali?) made it a bit comical.

Hard disagree. It demonstrated his level of vulnerability and trust for the whole party who are about to go on a life or death mission to save the world. It was important to him to share with everyone going on that mission because they were already there. It would be super awkward to say "I need everyone to hear this...except you, Murray, and you, Kali."

And while he might have not have thought of it in the moment, Murray and Kali are close to Joyce and El, respectively, and that was reason enough for him.

 

[eschaton]

How so? Weren't the unproposal and the tossing the ring away clear enough for you?

I interpreted that scene as a recognition that they still cared for one another, marriage wasn't correct right now, but they both realized they needed a lot of work yet.

Hard disagree. It demonstrated his level of vulnerability and trust for the whole party who are about to go on a life or death mission to save the world. It was important to him to share with everyone going on that mission because they were already there. It would be super awkward to say "I need everyone to hear this...except you, Murray, and you, Kali."

And while he might have not have thought of it in the moment, Murray and Kali are close to Joyce and El, respectively, and that was reason enough for him.

It was incredibly anachronistic for a gay teenager coming out in the late 1980s. I am too young to have had experience with that era as a teen, but ten years later, the only friends who came out in HS all attempted suicide after. That's not to say I expect any of the characters to be homophobic in particular, but it smacked of modern wish fulfillment rather than being rooted in the lived experience of the time.

To be honest, Season 5 has been a lot sloppier with actually keeping period appropriate in the script. From discussion of "trauma bonding" to "benzos" to Derek's "suck my fattie" it seems phoned in a bit.

 

[theenglish]

And while he might have not have thought of it in the moment, Murray and Kali are close to Joyce and El, respectively, and that was reason enough for him.

It also seems like Murray has become trusted between season 4 and 5. The one piece I was surprised by was Will's confession that he had had a crush on Mike. The fact that they are basically going into a final battle and they all know it, made this confession and everyone's quick acceptance of it more impactful. Mike might have felt awkward about what Will said to him at some other time, and it might have taken others some time to get used to the news--but at that particularly moment, everyone's reactions were believable.

I have the same general problem with the show as in Part 1. There's just way, way too much exposition, and it's weighing the show down horribly. So many scenes where the group all sit around coming up with cockamamie plans, finishing one another's sentences in an unrealistic manner. So many times that we see something happen onscreen, and then when characters reunite, it gets explained to the audience a second or third time. So many times a character gets a sudden "eureka" moment as needed by the plot. I come to the yard for the character beats, and seeing so much conversation degrade to plot machinations is a let down.

I'm having a difficult time with this as well.