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50th Anniversary Viewing (Part 1)



All in the Family
"Gloria Is Nervous"
Originally aired December 8, 1975
MeTV said:
While Gloria is climbing the walls because her baby's overdue, Mike hyperventilates at her baby shower.
Wiki said:
Final appearance of Betty Garrett as Irene Lorenzo. Carroll O'Connor does not appear in this episode.

Now nine days overdue, Gloria's edgy with Mike because of her condition, which includes frequently having to go upstairs to the bathroom.

Mike: I didn't eat your Oreo Cookies. Gloria, you know I'm a Ding Dong man.​

Mike tries to be sympathetic and encouraging, but every gesture gets twisted in a negative fashion. While Archie's on a fishing trip, Edith comes over to be supportive but makes things worse when she emphasizes how Gloria's life will never be the same once she has a child depending on her. Mike and Edith persuade Gloria to continue with her childbirth exercises, lying her on the floor with pillows while Mike explains the purposes of the exercises to Edith.

Edith: I'm glad I had Gloria when I did, 'cause I don't think I'd know enough to have a baby today.​

He mentions how they're prepared for Gloria hyperventilating, explains the condition, and shows Edith the paper bag and other essential items collected in their hospital-ready "goodie bag"...which includes a lot of snacks for Mike. As the exercises commence, Gloria becomes defiant and won't cooperate with Mike, so Edith steps in and puts both in their place. Then Mike gets upset when he's reminded that the baby shower is the next night, when he was planning to go to a basketball game. (If she's over a week overdue, wouldn't they have already had the shower?)

That night, Gloria repeatedly wakes up Mike for snoring--in the first instance, he thinks it's time. Mike proves that she's messing with him by pretending to fall back asleep sans snoring. Gloria finds her missing Oreos packed in the goodie bag and their argument intensifies, causing her to move to the next room.

Cut to the shower, attended by Edith, Irene (uncredited in her swan song), Sylvia (Robin Wilson), Dotty (Garn Stephens), Debbie (Suzanne Astor), and Vikki (Madeleine Fisher)...but not Mike. Gloria disses him in Edith Ann mode. Mike rushes in having trouble breathing, having gone into a panic when a Dr. Shapiro was paged at the game. When the girls realize that this is Chekhov's Hyperventilation, they lie him on pillows on the floor and Edith gets a paper bag. While Mike regains control of his breathing, Gloria apologizes for how she's been treating him. The episode closes with the two of them alone and Michael saying things that make her laugh.



M*A*S*H
"Mail Call, Again"
Originally aired December 9, 1975
Frndly/Wiki mashup said:
Letters from home spark a number of mini-dramas: Col. Potter learns he's a grandfather, Hawkeye gets his hometown newspaper, Radar gets a home movie from his family, and Frank learns his wife has found out about his affair with Margaret and is asking for a divorce.

Potter's shaving with a straight razor when Radar reads an arriving piece of postage from the colonel's dentist son, announcing an incoming grandchild. (There's a loud whoop during which I'm not sure whether Potter was supposed to have cut himself.) The colonel and Radar come up with the idea of starting a pool regarding when the baby is born, its weight, and whether it's a boy or a girl. Radar next delivers a package to Houlihan containing a sexy nightgown that Frank ordered for her. Mulcahy gets a letter from his sister the sister about her basketball coaching. Hawkeye receives a Crabapple Cove Courier, and B.J. multiple letters from his wife and one from his dog. Burns's letter is steamed open--allegedly by accident--and Radar shares with the guys that his wife wants a divorce, having found out about Houlihan from another officer who'd come through the 4077th. When Frank arrives, he rudely sends Radar on his way.

Hawkeye: We like Radar, Frank.​
B.J.: He's soft and cuddy.​
Hawkeye: And almost housebroken.​

Burns notices that his letter was open, yet tries to hide what it's about, chewing a pillow up while reading it and ultimately running out...desperate to call home and not in the mood to hear about the arrival of Margaret's naughty nightie. But when Burns gets to the radio, the colonel--who cuts short Burns's abuse of Radar--is burning up the air between Korea and Ohio trying to find out what hospital his daughter-in-law is at.

Hawkeye reads gossipy small-town news items to an apparently shell-shocked patient in the ward. Klinger visits the colonel's office in widow's garb with news that his two brothers have died, and wastes no time in citing an Army regulation that would allow him to be discharged as the surviving son. A wary Potter pulls out his service record, which indicates that he has no brothers.

Potter: Every time you tell a lie your nose gets smaller.​

When Frank's getting himself patched through to Indiana, Klinger comes in for sundry business with Radar, so the major feels the need borrow Potter's phone. Margaret eavesdrops on Radar's end and gets worked into a rage listening to Frank pleading with Louise while describing how unattractive Major Houlihan is.

Klinger and Radar have been setting up a projector to watch a home movie from Radar's family, in which we get our first look at his mother:
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Mrs. O'Reilly's silent sign-off brings Walter to tears. Just as the film ends, Potter gets a brief call informing his that he has a granddaughter. The personnel have a little drinking party in honor of the occasion.



Hawaii Five-O
"Wooden Model of a Rat"
Originally aired December 11, 1975
Wiki said:
McGarrett's probe of Asian art smuggling grinds to a halt when he is charged with possession of one of the items.

Curator Gustave Lupin (Richard McKenzie) is describing the Museum of Oriental Art's low-key exhibition of Asian miniature carved figures to wealthy patron Mr. August March, who takes an interest in one of the citizens who's contributing his modest private collection.
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At Stately March Manor, August gloats of his discovery and how he plans to take advantage of it to his sardonic associate, Suzari (FOFF charter member Kwan Hi Lim). March has a meeting with a Professor Masaaki (John Fujioka) to make an unspecified proposition. Meanwhile, Steve's working on a smuggling case involving such art objects, which has been stymied by a courier, Kim Chung Lo, having diplomatic immunity, so he wants to find who the objects are being fenced to before they're shipped to the mainland. Danno meets with the courier's mistress on the islands, Malinda Grant (Josie Over and Over), who tells him that Kim's interested in seeking asylum so he can stay with her. She's taking the initiative of trying to set up a deal that would involve him talking. Steve gets a call from the high-strung Mr. Lupin, insisting that he come to the museum at once. Lupin takes Steve to talk to Masaaki, who, accompanied by March, confronts Steve with the titularly named piece in his collection having been stolen from the Yokohama Museum six months prior, though Steve insists that he picked it up in Korea in 1951. (Crossover! Crossover!) Already-present members of the press take pictures and write up the scandal in the papers, connecting Steve's alleged crime with Five-O's investigation.

Steve explains to John Manicote that his similar-looking piece was a Tomakazu, not an Ittan; and suspects that this is a ruse to discredit the investigation. When Danno questions Lupin, the curator produces a handwritten inventory cataloging the piece Steve contributed as an Ittan. After Steve watches a press conference in which Masaaki cites McGarrett's reputation for impeccable honesty...

Steve: I've never been called a thief more politely in my whole life.​

At March Manor, Suzari informs August of the courier's pursuit of asylum, so March sends Suzari to silence him. As Danno and Duke are presenting Ms. Grant with their witness protection offer, Suzari pays a visit to Kim Chung Lo (Peter Chun). Kim is subsequently found dead of an apparent suicide, complete with a note expressing shame for his affair. Masaaki brings in Dr. Hayabusa of the Yokohama Museum (Bill Lee), who bears a list of the other pieces stolen in the same theft. One of them is a similarly valued piece that Five-O recovered in its investigation and returned to the museum. This is taken as an implication that Steve was pocketing some pieces confiscated by Five-O, forcing Manicote to present the evidence against Steve before a grand jury.

Danno questions Masaaki about the circumstances of Mr. March bringing him in, his discovery of the stolen piece, and why the press was called in, which Masaaki himself found odd. Danno then talks to March, taking away that he has business and museum connections in various points of interest, including Yokohama. Steve theorizes that the piece could have been switched by somebody embedded in the armored car during the delivery, so Danno questions a very defensive Lupin, who packed the pieces and thus could have made it easily identifiable to the switcher. Lupin blows up when Danno suggests that he might have had the car make a stop at March's. Lupin goes to March to declare that he's washing his hands of the whole affair; following which March calls Suzari; following which Lupin is found hanging in his home.

A houseboy saw Suzari leaving, which gives Five-O a description to go on. An investigation of Lupin's records indicates travel activities that connect to the smuggling investigation, and he's identified as the contact of a paid courier who's in jail. Doc Bergman determines that Lupin was already dead before he was hung: "It's called killing yourself the hard way." Che finds that needle marks indicating that he was an addict and that he died of a massive overdose. While Steve puts the pressure on March, Five-O spots Suzari visiting March's and picks him up. Steve's playing hardball with Suzari in his office when Danno brings in a headline reporting that Steve's been indicted, which is followed by a call from Manicote in which Steve soberly agrees to turn himself over in the morning. Suzari is let go and goes straight to March to share the good news. Suzari then threatens to talk to McGarrett if March doesn't give him McGarrett's switched Tomakazu, which would be Suzari's insurance against being silenced himself. March produces the rat, along with a gun, but then Five-O swoops in and Steve confiscates his Tomakazu.
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McGarrett underscores that this indicates March was the possessor of the stolen Ittan, and has the duo booked. He then calls Manicote with an update.

Steve: I've got the rats...both of them. And they're not carved ones, either.​

Episode-closing freeze frame:
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Me too. I don't think I ever thought about it much.
It's something I might have been expected to remember, being a Hoosier.

Oh, sure, there were a few sequels. :rommie:
I meant IRL.

I've started a meme. :rommie:
[robin]I-i-i started a me-e-e-me...[/robin]

The only thing that worries me about now is monetized social media-- the Culture War is a multi-billion-dollar-a-year industry which gives an enormous financial incentive to creating new conflicts and exacerbating old conflicts. People need to realize that it's the Culture War itself that is the enemy. And I do see some signs that this is beginning to happen in Gen Z.
We can only hope.
 
Now nine days overdue, Gloria's edgy with Mike because of her condition, which includes frequently having to go upstairs to the bathroom.
That's an indication for elective c-section. Just sayin.'

While Archie's on a fishing trip
What, he needs another raise already?

Edith: I'm glad I had Gloria when I did, 'cause I don't think I'd know enough to have a baby today.
And there's infinitely more information given to patients today, but that's why maternal mortality is practically nonexistent.

As the exercises commence, Gloria becomes defiant and won't cooperate with Mike, so Edith steps in and puts both in their place.
I kind of remember this. They had some kind of little routine that Gloria turned around into an epithet or something, but it's all very vague.

(If she's over a week overdue, wouldn't they have already had the shower?)
Ah, good point.

Irene (uncredited in her swan song)
Good night, Irene. I wonder what the reason was that she left. She was kind of cool.

When the girls realize that this is Chekhov's Hyperventilation, they lie him on pillows on the floor and Edith gets a paper bag.
I kind of remember this part, too. :rommie:

The episode closes with the two of them alone and Michael saying things that make her laugh.
"Did you hear the one about the blonde who tiptoed past the medicine cabinet?"

(There's a loud whoop during which I'm not sure whether Potter was supposed to have cut himself.)
Perhaps a whoop of delight leading to a severed jugular.

The colonel and Radar come up with the idea of starting a pool regarding when the baby is born, its weight, and whether it's a boy or a girl.
They didn't use Apgars in those days, so I won't say anything. :rommie:

Radar shares with the guys that his wife wants a divorce, having found out about Houlihan from another officer who'd come through the 4077th.
I wonder if they'll follow up on this. I don't remember anything about it.

the colonel--who cuts short Burns's abuse of Radar--is burning up the air between Korea and Ohio trying to find out what hospital his daughter-in-law is at.
Might have been nice to include that information in the letter. :rommie:

Hawkeye reads gossipy small-town news items to an apparently shell-shocked patient in the ward.
Was he shell shocked before or after?

Potter: Every time you tell a lie your nose gets smaller.
Demonstrably false. :rommie:

Margaret eavesdrops on Radar's end and gets worked into a rage listening to Frank pleading with Louise while describing how unattractive Major Houlihan is.
It's some kind of miracle that Burns survived the war. :rommie:

Klinger and Radar have been setting up a projector to watch a home movie from Radar's family, in which we get our first look at his mother:
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I do remember this. :rommie:

Just as the film ends, Potter gets a brief call informing his that he has a granddaughter. The personnel have a little drinking party in honor of the occasion.
Aww. It's kind of nice that they didn't interrupt this episode with incoming.

"Wooden Model of a Rat"
Not a bad title.

Uncredited Ed Asner?! :eek:

FOFF charter member
I'm probably gonna feel stupid, but I don't think I know what FOFF means.

Malinda Grant (Josie Over and Over)
I get that one. :rommie:

Steve insists that he picked it up in Korea in 1951. (Crossover! Crossover!)
It was only through the magic of the charmed idol that he was able to escape the time loop.

Steve explains to John Manicote that his similar-looking piece was a Tomakazu, not an Ittan
A common mistake.

Lupin is found hanging in his home.
It's an epidemic.

Doc Bergman determines that Lupin was already dead before he was hung: "It's called killing yourself the hard way."
If it was easy anybody could do it.

Steve's playing hardball with Suzari in his office when Danno brings in a headline reporting that Steve's been indicted, which is followed by a call from Manicote in which Steve soberly agrees to turn himself over in the morning. Suzari is let go and goes straight to March to share the good news. Suzari then threatens to talk to McGarrett if March doesn't give him McGarrett's switched Tomakazu, which would be Suzari's insurance against being silenced himself. March produces the rat, along with a gun, but then Five-O swoops in and Steve confiscates his Tomakazu.
So were the headline and the call real or an M:I gambit?

McGarrett versus Lou Grant. A pretty good matchup.

Episode-closing freeze frame:
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An expression seldom seen. Not a bad episode. Steve gets the frameup treatment and we see that he has a hobby more interesting than windsurfing or tennis-- though we'll probably never hear another word about it. :rommie:

It's something I might have been expected to remember, being a Hoosier.
Ah, that's right, you're from Inh.

I meant IRL.
I know, I was just being allegedly funny. :rommie:

[robin]I-i-i started a me-e-e-me...[/robin]
Nice. :rommie:

We can only hope.
Optimism, captain! :D
 
What, he needs another raise already?
Or maybe he negotiated for weeks off. Maybe he'll be turning up on Hawaii Five-O....

I kind of remember this. They had some kind of little routine that Gloria turned around into an epithet or something, but it's all very vague.
Not finding that, but when he was showing Edith what was in the goodie bag, she cracked that she was going to have a six-pound baby while he was going to have an eight-pound lunch.

Ah, good point.
I'm no expert, but common sense tells me that these things are planned to happen comfortably ahead of the due date. Looking it up, it seems that the typical scheduling is 4-6 weeks before.

Good night, Irene. I wonder what the reason was that she left. She was kind of cool.
A quick look-up indicates that she was discontent with how little she had to do.

"Did you hear the one about the blonde who tiptoed past the medicine cabinet?"
Looked up.

They didn't use Apgars in those days, so I won't say anything. :rommie:
We're really in your wheelhouse this week, aren't we? I'm reminded of how Jim Reed Jr. and the Smart twins were born the same week as me.

Might have been nice to include that information in the letter. :rommie:
I was wondering how Potter knew when to start making the calls.

Was he shell shocked before or after?
I'll take that as a rhetorical question.

Uncredited Ed Asner?! :eek:
Who said he was uncredited?
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Now if Lou goes missing for a couple of episodes, we'll know why.

I'm probably gonna feel stupid, but I don't think I know what FOFF means.
Newly introduced initialism for recently introduced term Five-O Frequent Flier.

I get that one. :rommie:
A cute way of saying that she's also FOFF certified, in case you had other ideas.

So were the headline and the call real or an M:I gambit?
They were real...in fact, Danno took Steve out into the reception area for them. Steve went back into his office looking like he was about to do something, then we cut to Suzari returning to March. From a line or two in the wrap-up, it was Steve using the moment as an eleventh-hour Hail Mary. As Steve underscored during the arrest, March was too eager to hear that his plan had succeeded to question why they let Suzari go.

Ah, that's right, you're from Inh.
Then I moved to Fluh, but nowadays I'm in Cut.
 
Or maybe he negotiated for weeks off. Maybe he'll be turning up on Hawaii Five-O....
Or Rockford Files. :rommie:

Not finding that, but when he was showing Edith what was in the goodie bag, she cracked that she was going to have a six-pound baby while he was going to have an eight-pound lunch.
Trying to remember that scene has been nagging at me. I remembered that one of the phrases they used was "release to touch," or something like that. But somehow it was switched around to an angry outburst, and it's just out of reach.

I'm no expert, but common sense tells me that these things are planned to happen comfortably ahead of the due date. Looking it up, it seems that the typical scheduling is 4-6 weeks before.
That makes sense. Of course, it could be easily handwaved by scheduling conflicts.
"Where have you been, Irene?"
"Out in the woods."
"What are you doing with that shovel?"
"Never mind!"

A quick look-up indicates that she was discontent with how little she had to do.
That makes sense. Although it was a paycheck and face time on one of the most popular shows around.

We're really in your wheelhouse this week, aren't we?
Yes, I've been kind of enjoying that. :rommie:

I'm reminded of how Jim Reed Jr. and the Smart twins were born the same week as me.
Both of whom are ripe for spinoffs. :rommie:

I was wondering how Potter knew when to start making the calls.
I guess his daughter-in-law's EDC was right on the money. <-- Still in my wheelhouse. :rommie:

I'll take that as a rhetorical question.
More like a bit of snark. :D

Who said he was uncredited?
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I meant in your synopsis. :angel:

Now if Lou goes missing for a couple of episodes, we'll know why.
"Nice tan, Lou."

Newly introduced initialism for recently introduced term Five-O Frequent Flier.
Ah, must remember that, if possible.

A cute way of saying that she's also FOFF certified, in case you had other ideas.
No, I got it. She's got a distinctive name and I think she's been on the show every year. They should have made her a regular. I don't think this show ever had a female agent.

They were real...in fact, Danno took Steve out into the reception area for them. Steve went back into his office looking like he was about to do something, then we cut to Suzari returning to March. From a line or two in the wrap-up, it was Steve using the moment as an eleventh-hour Hail Mary. As Steve underscored during the arrest, March was too eager to hear that his plan had succeeded to question why they let Suzari go.
Nice. Pretty tense finale.

Then I moved to Fluh, but nowadays I'm in Cut.
You got around. I only ever lived in Mah.
 
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