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They're Not Even Hiding Their Racism... - Reacting To Conservatives FURIOUS At "Black Doctor Who" by Mr TARDIS

Though if Doctor Who ever decides to use a character that's specifically supposed to be Canadian, the words "eh" and "aboot" should NEVER come out of their mouths. Those are stereotypes based on ONE stupid comedy sketch that wasn't even funny.

"Eh?" was popularized by Bob and Doug. And when Canadians say "about", it doesn't sound like "aboot" and it's fucking annoying.

It sounds like "aboat" when they say it. LOL. It's always the tell that someone's Canadian to me.
I tried to watch Excalibur. It's unwatchable. At least for me.

Whaaaa? It's still the best rendition of the Arthurian cycle, all in one film. Early roles for Patrick Stewart, Gabriel Byrne, Helen Mirren, Liam Neeson, Cirian Hinds and Clive Swift. It's a goddamn classic I tells ya! A classic! :cool:

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"Eh?" was popularized by Bob and Doug. And when Canadians say "about", it doesn't sound like "aboot" and it's fucking annoying.

It sounds like "aboat" when they say it. LOL. It's always the tell that someone's Canadian to me.


Whaaaa? It's still the best rendition of the Arthurian cycle, all in one film. Early roles for Patrick Stewart, Gabriel Byrne, Helen Mirren, Liam Neeson, Cirian Hinds and Clive Swift. It's a goddamn classic I tells ya! A classic! :cool:

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Hard agree and, impressively, it tells the full legend in one film. If they were doing it now, it’d be a trilogy, each film would be 3 hours long and part 1 would end with him pulling the stone from the sword.
 
"Eh?" was popularized by Bob and Doug.

"Eh?" was known as a Canadian thing well before Bob and Doug. There was a book called Canajan, Eh? back in 1973 that was a bestselling (in Canada, at least) and allegedly funny take on Canadian English. It's been so long since I last saw a copy that I honestly don't remember if it actually was funny. The same writer also wrote Murrican, Huh?

And when Canadians say "about", it doesn't sound like "aboot" and it's fucking annoying.

It sounds like "aboat" when they say it. LOL. It's always the tell that someone's Canadian to me.

It sounds like "aboat" in some places. My mom, from a small town in Nova Scotia, says it like that. A lot of Canadians say it with almost the same ow sound as in, well, sound.

Whaaaa? It's still the best rendition of the Arthurian cycle, all in one film. Early roles for Patrick Stewart, Gabriel Byrne, Helen Mirren, Liam Neeson, Cirian Hinds and Clive Swift. It's a goddamn classic I tells ya! A classic! :cool:

I was going to say total agreement and no nitpicks here, but it's Ciaran, not Cirian.
 
"Eh?" was popularized by Bob and Doug. And when Canadians say "about", it doesn't sound like "aboot" and it's fucking annoying.

It sounds like "aboat" when they say it. LOL. It's always the tell that someone's Canadian to me.


Whaaaa? It's still the best rendition of the Arthurian cycle, all in one film. Early roles for Patrick Stewart, Gabriel Byrne, Helen Mirren, Liam Neeson, Cirian Hinds and Clive Swift. It's a goddamn classic I tells ya! A classic! :cool:

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I've enjoyed those actors' performances. Just not all in this one. You must understand that BBC Merlin spoiled me for all others, except First Knight, which explores a quieter, more mature relationship among Arthur Guinevere, and Lancelot, and there is NO magic in it.

The pre-TNG Patrick Stewart roles I liked were Sejanus in I, Claudius (one of the better villains on that show, other than Livia; Claudius married his sister, Aelia, to keep himself safe from Sejanus & Tiberius' reign of terror).

Then there was Henry Grey, Duke of somewhere in England I've forgotten. He was Jane's father and helped push Jane first into the marriage with Guildford Dudley (neither of them wanted to marry; they didn't even like each other), and then onto the throne when Edward died. When Mary took over and put Jane and Guildford into the Tower, Henry Grey stupidly joined a rebellion in Jane's name to free her and put her back on the throne. Mary would have pardoned Jane and Guildford, but she wouldn't overlook rebellion.

And then along came Jean-Luc Picard. As mentioned, I like Patrick Stewart. I do not like Picard.
 
I've enjoyed those actors' performances. Just not all in this one. You must understand that BBC Merlin spoiled me for all others, except First Knight, which explores a quieter, more mature relationship among Arthur Guinevere, and Lancelot, and there is NO magic in it.
No offense intended, but it seems a bit odd to say Merlin ruined you for Arthurian adapations, since has almost nothing do with the original mythology. Don't get me wrong, I really really enjoy, but it changes so much that it's barely even recognizable as the Arthurian mythology.
 
Sorry, I didn't know there was an objectively right way and wrong way to enjoy TV shows and movies based on legends of people who probably never existed in the first place, or at least not as they're presented in literature written centuries after the time frame the characters are set in. :vulcan:

I've got my favorite characters. I've got my favorite storylines. I've got my favorite actors. Some are funny, some are sad, and there were some missed opportunities when the showrunners should have taken the story in a particular direction but either chose not to, or it never occurred to them (in which case, fanfiction will provide, even if I have to write it myself).

And it's pretty damn cool that Peter Davison's daughter played one of Arthur's many almost-betrothed princesses and there are behind the scenes photos of her and David Tennant strolling around the set at the Chateau de Pierrefonds. To a fanfiction afficionado, this presents a delightful opportunity to dream up a Merlin/Doctor Who crossover (even though Tennant wasn't in the episode, his wife played his daughter in a nuWho episode).


Just out of curiosity, which version of Robin Hood is the "objectively correct" one? Errol Flynn? Richard Greene? Michael Praed? Jason Connery? Kevin Costner? Cary Elwes? The science fiction animated version Rocket Robin Hood? The dozen or so other versions that were done and I don't recall the titles at the moment? I've got my favorites of those as well, and am fully aware that my favorites don't match the traditional legend.

I'm also into Highlander (TV series, not movies). There's a really nice story in one of my print 'zines in which Duncan McLeod meets King Arthur - turns out Arthur is Immortal and chose to spend his life on holy ground, waiting for the right time when he would be needed. He sees that Duncan has the nobility of mind and spirit that would have fit well with the Round Table, and knights him.

But oops. The traditional legends don't mention this. Guess that means this delightful story must be "odd" and not suitable to be enjoyed.
 
Sorry, I didn't know there was an objectively right way and wrong way to enjoy TV shows and movies based on legends of people who probably never existed in the first place, or at least not as they're presented in literature written centuries after the time frame the characters are set in. :vulcan:

I've got my favorite characters. I've got my favorite storylines. I've got my favorite actors. Some are funny, some are sad, and there were some missed opportunities when the showrunners should have taken the story in a particular direction but either chose not to, or it never occurred to them (in which case, fanfiction will provide, even if I have to write it myself).

And it's pretty damn cool that Peter Davison's daughter played one of Arthur's many almost-betrothed princesses and there are behind the scenes photos of her and David Tennant strolling around the set at the Chateau de Pierrefonds. To a fanfiction afficionado, this presents a delightful opportunity to dream up a Merlin/Doctor Who crossover (even though Tennant wasn't in the episode, his wife played his daughter in a nuWho episode).


Just out of curiosity, which version of Robin Hood is the "objectively correct" one? Errol Flynn? Richard Greene? Michael Praed? Jason Connery? Kevin Costner? Cary Elwes? The science fiction animated version Rocket Robin Hood? The dozen or so other versions that were done and I don't recall the titles at the moment? I've got my favorites of those as well, and am fully aware that my favorites don't match the traditional legend.

I'm also into Highlander (TV series, not movies). There's a really nice story in one of my print 'zines in which Duncan McLeod meets King Arthur - turns out Arthur is Immortal and chose to spend his life on holy ground, waiting for the right time when he would be needed. He sees that Duncan has the nobility of mind and spirit that would have fit well with the Round Table, and knights him.

But oops. The traditional legends don't mention this. Guess that means this delightful story must be "odd" and not suitable to be enjoyed.

I like the sound of that Highlander fic. Sure it’s cheesy. But so was the Daltrey guest appearance, and bowing can be worse than the fifth film.
 
Anyway, my position all along has been that all of the actors playing the Doctor have been fantastic. Whittaker in particular remains one of my favorite Doctors.

The biggest problem with the show is the writing. The percentage of hits went down noticeably during the Capaldi era and hasn't recovered.
 
I like the sound of that Highlander fic. Sure it’s cheesy. But so was the Daltrey guest appearance, and bowing can be worse than the fifth film.

I had no idea that Daltrey was some famous musician when I saw the episodes he was in. I just liked Fitz. He was fun.
 
I had no idea that Daltrey was some famous musician when I saw the episodes he was in. I just liked Fitz. He was fun.

It was cheesy though xD

I don’t think I liked any one episode as much as the pilot though, and it was hard to follow here so I have barely seen any. I have mixed feelings about EndGame.
 
It was cheesy though xD

I don’t think I liked any one episode as much as the pilot though, and it was hard to follow here so I have barely seen any. I have mixed feelings about EndGame.

The beauty about fanfiction is that if you don't like something about a show, you can write what's called a "Fix-it" story. I'm sure there are plenty where Fitz lives, Richie lives (actually, there's a series of stories in which he survives into the 23rd century and joins Starfleet; I haven't read them, and am curious about where he'd keep his sword!), Duncan and Tessa (or Anne) live happily ever after, and so on.

Of course there's no end of possible crossovers.

I've got one in progress that combines Doctor Who with Downton Abbey. Seems Harriet Jones, Prime Minister only intended to take a brief trip to the 19th century with the Doctor and they got separated. With no way to get back to the 21st century, she had to make a life for herself, and became Isobel Crawley (let's ignore the problem of how old Mathew is and say he's adopted). Fast-forward several decades and she and Dowager Countess Violet are sitting on the bench under the tree at Downton, when they hear a wheezing sound... and it's the Doctor and his TARDIS. Decades late, but he's come to take Harriet Jones back to her own time. Of course Violet is utterly stunned (not to mention flabbergasted to know that this annoying Crawley woman who has become her best friend is really the future Prime Minister), but deals with it as only the Dowager Countess could... (can you imagine Maggie Smith's character going up against the Doctor's decades-younger companions, or fighting a Dalek?).
 
Sorry, I didn't know there was an objectively right way and wrong way to enjoy TV shows and movies based on legends of people who probably never existed in the first place, or at least not as they're presented in literature written centuries after the time frame the characters are set in. :vulcan:
Sorry, I think I might have misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant it was such a perfect adaptation of the mythology, and that it followed all of the original stories so closely that other version could ever do it better.
When I watch stuff like this, I tend to judge it as an adaptation and it's overall quality totally separately. So as an adatation of the Arthurian mythology, I thought Merlin completely failed, because it just changed to much stuff.
But judging it by it's overall quality, I really enjoyed it, it's probably one of my favorite fantasy TV series ever.
It's a similar situation with the Harry Potter movies for me, the first two movies are probably the best adaptations of the books, but they're my least favorite movies in the series, and the later movies, which were worse adaptations of the books, I actually like a lot better.
I've got my favorite characters. I've got my favorite storylines. I've got my favorite actors. Some are funny, some are sad, and there were some missed opportunities when the showrunners should have taken the story in a particular direction but either chose not to, or it never occurred to them (in which case, fanfiction will provide, even if I have to write it myself).
I get that, it's a great show.
And it's pretty damn cool that Peter Davison's daughter played one of Arthur's many almost-betrothed princesses and there are behind the scenes photos of her and David Tennant strolling around the set at the Chateau de Pierrefonds. To a fanfiction afficionado, this presents a delightful opportunity to dream up a Merlin/Doctor Who crossover (even though Tennant wasn't in the episode, his wife played his daughter in a nuWho episode).
I didn't know that, that's pretty cool.
Just out of curiosity, which version of Robin Hood is the "objectively correct" one? Errol Flynn? Richard Greene? Michael Praed? Jason Connery? Kevin Costner? Cary Elwes? The science fiction animated version Rocket Robin Hood? The dozen or so other versions that were done and I don't recall the titles at the moment? I've got my favorites of those as well, and am fully aware that my favorites don't match the traditional legend.
I honestly have no idea, I don't know that much about the original Robin Hood stories.
My only real experience with Robin Hood is Men in Tights and the first season or two of the 2006 BBC series, which I have a feeling is probably as close to the original stories as Merlin is the Arthurian stories.
I'm also into Highlander (TV series, not movies). There's a really nice story in one of my print 'zines in which Duncan McLeod meets King Arthur - turns out Arthur is Immortal and chose to spend his life on holy ground, waiting for the right time when he would be needed. He sees that Duncan has the nobility of mind and spirit that would have fit well with the Round Table, and knights him.

But oops. The traditional legends don't mention this. Guess that means this delightful story must be "odd" and not suitable to be enjoyed.
Again, I think you misunderstood, like I said before, a story can still be a great story, even if it sucks as an adaptation. To me the quality of something as an adaptation is totally separate from it's overall quality.
That sounds like kind of a fun story, and I love the idea of Arthur being an Immortal.
 
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