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Spoilers Vince Gilligan's Pluribus starring Rhea Seehorn

The Nth Doctor

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After months of speculation and very little information about Vince Gilligan's mysterious new sci-fi show starring Rhea Seehorn that's set (of course) in Albuquerque, we finally have a trailer:

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We still don't know much about the actual plot of the series other than Seehorn's Carol Sturka trying to save humanity from infected happiness, but now we have a better sense of how...fucking weird everybody is, aside from Carol.

Is anyone else going to check out this show? I was already curious to check it because of Gilligan but with Seehorn as the lead, I'm all in.

The series debuts with two episodes on November 7.
 
I saw the first trailer and I'm thinking about checking this out. I loved Seehorn in Better Call Saul and I'm convinced anything with Gilligan's name attached to it is worth checking out.
 
OK, I am very intrigued. I've noticed that of any of the streaming services Apple really seems to be the most open to really going for the out there concepts, like See, where the whole world has gone blind, the retro sci-fi Hello Tomorrow, Severence, and now this.
 
Anyone else watching Pluribus?

I went into it knowing literally nothing about it, not even that it was science fiction. The moment I heard "Vince Gilligan penned show staring Rhea Seahorn" I knew I was going to watch it and then avoided any other information about it.

You have to hand it to the guy. After writing two of the most popular shows of the century he pitches: "How about we do a show about the Ned Flanders version of the Borg, as an unveiled analogy for the way AI is taking over our lives?"

I don't know if the premise has long term sustainability, there's inherently only 12 other possible characters and five of them already hate her. I just don't know how much compelling character development they can squeeze out of one woman talking to a global alien hive mind. But the first couple episodes are sure entertaining.
 
Watched the first episode last night. Figured it wouldn't fail with Gilligan at the helm. It delivered. Starts as seemingly a serious alien invasion story but soon has an excellent twist -- and a sharp change of tone. Looking forward to the rest of the season!
 
I don't know if the premise has long term sustainability, there's inherently only 12 other possible characters and five of them already hate her. I just don't know how much compelling character development they can squeeze out of one woman talking to a global alien hive mind. But the first couple episodes are sure entertaining.

There has to be a major reveal or addition to the plot coming soon, otherwise I agree. Supposedly Gilligan's got a four-season plan and an ending in mind. He doesn't really do twists or mystery boxes, though, so I have no idea what his plan could be. The two released episodes are excellent but it feels more like the premise for a movie or a miniseries than a multiple-season show.

I trust Gilligan however, so I'm looking forward to finding out what he has in mind.
 
Finally got a chance to watch both episodes...and holy shit, it's intense. I figured it wouldn't be light fare or even "just" a dark comedy, but damn, Gilligan doesn't pull any punches.

I find myself agreeing with Carol, at least on an abstract level. Yes, she's abrasive as hell but can you blame her? She lost Helen during the Joining and she barely had any time to process her trauma before the Others contacted her with intimate details that they drew from Helen's memories. How could Carol not react with fear and disgust and angry and distrust?

This is the thing that stands out the most about the six uninfected that we've met so far: Carol appears to be the only who one lost someone when the Joining occurred, whereas the others (at least Laxmi, Kusimayu, Neu, and Xiu) still have their closest loved ones near them (the jury is still out for the hedonistic Koumba).

For Carol, she's terrified that the Joining means the loss of agency, autonomy, and consent and she thinks the rest are in denial about what seems blindingly obvious to Carol. Unfortunately, while Carol has her heart in the right place in trying to convince the others of her perspective, she does so in such an riling manner that none of them will genuinely consider her point of view.

Of course it doesn't help that Carol was indeed cruel when she deliberately provoked Laxmi by not only asking her son, Ravi, questions he would never know, but ones that Laxmi would be disturbed to hear her son say. Nor does it help that Carol keeps allowing her fear and angry to bubble out in rage to a degree that causes the Others to have global seizures that kills hundreds of millions.

Here's the crux: While Carol raises an excellent point that the Others didn't give humanity the chance to consent in Joining, which unintentionally lead to hundreds of millions to die, Carol has also unintentionally caused massive amounts of death. Are either of them at fault?

Furthermore, there's the point that both Laxmi and Koumba raised: Carol hasn't actually asked the Others (and specifically Zosia) what the Joining is like and what the Others' existence means to them. Instead, Carol is stuck on her own assumptions and prejudices.

That's what I love the most about this show so far: It doesn't offer any easy answers.
 
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this is a really good show

i wonder what will happen in episode 3 when she joins whats his name that other not effected guy on air force one
 
Some additional thoughts I forgot to include with my review last night:

Will we learn how there are 12 uninfected people and why that number is seemingly so low? Or will that remain a statistical anomaly best left unexplored? Gilligan is probably more interested in exploring the psychology and sociology of the situation rather than the scientific details.

Perhaps a more pressing question is what caused people like Helen to reject the Joining and simply died? How many people died directly because of that rejection? Zosia told everyone the total number of people who died altogether as a result of the messy Joining process, but Carol didn't ask her specifically about those who rejected the infection and I couldn't help but notice that particular omission.

In fact, it is curious how the only information the Others provide are from direct questions. But I might be mistaken on that observation.

I was pleasantly surprised to see Karan Soni pop up as one of the first scientists who got infected. Here's hoping he'll reappear later on in the season because he's always a joy to watch.

On a different note, I could've sworn that the Barnes & Noble that Carol did her book tour stop at was the one in Durham, North Carolina. It looked exactly like it, both inside and out...but it's entirely possible that a lot of Barnes & Nobles have very similar layouts. :lol:
 
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It’s the B&N in Uptown ABQ, one of my favorite haunts when I lived on that side of town. It’s attached to the one mall in town that is still thriving. The upstairs used to be primarily music back when cds were a thing. The bar scene where they noticed the chemtrails was shot at a local steak joint that fashions itself as a speakeasy. Good steaks, but very expensive.
 
I knew they filmed most of the show in Albuquerque but I felt like I was tripping during the Barnes & Noble scenes because it looked so much like the one in Durham. I guess they repeat interior layouts. :lol:
 
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