One movie every year for 15 years? That's not how things work.
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One movie every year for 15 years? That's not how things work.
It's been put up or shut up for the Kelvin Timeline for quite some time. After nearly a decade of Paramount dragging its feet, the idea that the new regime may have finally made a decision (one way or the other) is welcome to me.
Even in the lower-production-budget days of the TOS and TNG films, they averaged one movie every 2-1/2 to 3 years -- slightly quicker turnaround than we had with the Kelvin films, but not by very much.
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Paramount wasted 9 years... I'm kinda pissed.
Paramount Has “Moved On” from a STAR TREK Kelvin Timeline Sequel Film, Says New Variety Report
After a decade of false starts on a new Chris Pine-led STAR TREK film, a new report today indicates Paramount may have closed the books on the Kelvin Timeline once and for allblog.trekcore.com
Paramount Has “Moved On” from a STAR TREK Kelvin Timeline Sequel Film, Says New Variety Report
After a decade of false starts on a new Chris Pine-led STAR TREK film, a new report today indicates Paramount may have closed the books on the Kelvin Timeline once and for all
What would they even do? Only the original series movies have ever sold tickets.
Er, what? You mean nobody ever went to see the four TNG films or the three Kelvin timeline films?
I mean that every film that sold blockbuster numbers of tickets in North America featured Kirk, Spock, McCoy, etc. Without the 2009 crew, what's the plan? Another new cast?
Estimates from The Numbers:
Star Trek — 34,364,003
The Motion Picture — 32,772,293
The Voyage Home — 29,215,933
Into Darkness — 28,140,056
The Wrath of Khan — 26,841,143
The Search for Spock — 21,212,436
First Contact — 20,796,989
Beyond — 18,363,969
Generations — 18,482,724
The Undiscovered Country — 15,414,781
Insurrection — 14,776,591
The Final Frontier — 13,085,225
Nemesis — 7,423,289
It's about time they were honest about this. If they had really wanted to make a sequel they would have done so long ago. The Kelvin Universe got a trilogy at least and things were wrapped up at the end of Beyond. I think what feels so unsatisfying is the movies themselves having no real arc or story to tell beyond the first film. A three film story arc that really took these characters somewhere would have been interesting.
Studios in general seem to be getting very fond of doing that. Look at all those unmade Star Wars movies. We're in the era of empty promises. These announcements are only to keep shareholders happy.
Star Trek 2009 was one of the highest grossing Trek films so it clearly sold a couple of tickets.
And they could easily do a second generation style, with that actually seeing Kirk training the next class.
I might be in the minority, but I see the 2009 film series as (an alternate version of) TOS.
I mean it is, but it definitely had a different appeal as well.
I think it's possible to make a good Star Trek movie without the crutch of Kirk, Spock and the Enterprise, especially since it would be the fourth iteration of these characters. The people in charge just need to have faith that their product can stand on its own.
I honestly don’t see much of a future for Trek in cinema. The first ten films had the gimmick of being glorified reunion films. The Kelvin films were Paramount’s honest stab at turning Star Trek into a tentpole franchise along with Transformers and the MCU (before Disney bought it up) but that didn’t pan out as they hoped, thus couldn’t afford to make a relatively less expensive film with the same cast.
Aside from maybe doing a Kelvin timeline TNG with Tom Hardy as Picard, I’m not really sure they can do much else. But I’m one of those weirdo fans that thinks Trek is better off sticking to television. It was fun seeing Trek dabble in films, but their real strength is on the smaller screen.
That said, I think it’s too bad there won’t be more with Pine. I wasn’t the biggest fan of the first two, but I adored BEYOND. At least they got to end it on a nice note, even if they fumbled big on marketing it.
Aside from maybe doing a Kelvin timeline TNG with Tom Hardy as Picard, I’m not really sure they can do much else. But I’m one of those weirdo fans that thinks Trek is better off sticking to television. It was fun seeing Trek dabble in films, but their real strength is on the smaller screen.
That said, I think it’s too bad there won’t be more with Pine. I wasn’t the biggest fan of the first two, but I adored BEYOND. At least they got to end it on a nice note, even if they fumbled big on marketing it.
I'm curious how much money they've wasted along the way. While a few were only pitches to try and drum up investor support, several of these Star Trek 4's had actual scripts written. Some had concept art created, location scouting and preliminary casting.
Do studios still roll the cost of failed productions into the next one? Because the next theatrical Trek is gonna have a $200m budget and take place entirely in a stuck turbolift.
Of all the potential Star Trek 4 versions that came and went, I wish we got the Tarantino film. I don’t really care if it would have derailed the film series or not, I just like the idea of Tarantino coming in and doing whatever the hell he wanted in the sandbox that is a Star Trek film. I appreciate when Trek takes wild swings and his entry would have been unique. But if word is true apparently the only reason that didn’t happen was because he was apprehensive of this possibly being his tenth and final film. Oh well!
Paramount Has “Moved On” from a STAR TREK Kelvin Timeline Sequel Film, Says New Variety Report
After a decade of false starts on a new Chris Pine-led STAR TREK film, a new report today indicates Paramount may have closed the books on the Kelvin Timeline once and for all
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depending on the production timelines
I think it's akin to making a Batman movie without Bruce Wayne. It can be done, but shrinks the potential audience while increasing the difficulty.
So... Birds of Prey?
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