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Spoilers Wednesday (Addams) Netflix Show

A few months ago, while reading interviews about the show's second season, I read that the show's creators wanted to make as many seasons as possible. I want to open this up for discussion. In today's streaming age, a Hollywood TV show lasts between five and eight seasons max. In fact, very few American series last more than eight. There are very few American series on Netflix that last more than five seasons. I don't think Wednesday will last more than five seasons because the ratings are gradually declining. And Jenna Ortega is a movie star now. She wouldn't want to be on a series for more than five seasons.
 
A few months ago, while reading interviews about the show's second season, I read that the show's creators wanted to make as many seasons as possible. I want to open this up for discussion. In today's streaming age, a Hollywood TV show lasts between five and eight seasons max. In fact, very few American series last more than eight. There are very few American series on Netflix that last more than five seasons. I don't think Wednesday will last more than five seasons because the ratings are gradually declining. And Jenna Ortega is a movie star now. She wouldn't want to be on a series for more than five seasons.

It's always weird to me when people talk about things that were always normal in TV as if they were somehow unique to the streaming era. It's always been the case that only a minority of shows get as much as three seasons, and getting five or more is exceptional. The reason the 1980s-90s Star Trek shows all ended after seven seasons was because the annual raises in cast and crew salaries made it too expensive to keep making the show beyond that point. Shows that run longer, like Law & Order, Smallville, or Power Rangers, get away with it through frequent cast turnaround, since new actors aren't paid as much as long-term actors. And no series on the Syfy cable network (originally known as The Sci-Fi Channel) ever lasted more than five seasons on the network; the only ones that had longer runs were ones that moved to Syfy after originally airing somewhere else (like Stargate SG-1, which had five seasons on Showtime and five on Syfy).

This is particularly true of science fiction and fantasy. Prior to Star Trek: The Next Generation, the only live-action American SF/fantasy shows I know of that lasted longer than 5 years were Adventures of Superman, Bewitched, and Dark Shadows. And there were only a few with 5-year runs, including The Twilight Zone, The Six Million Dollar Man, and The Incredible Hulk. When I was growing up, most of the genre shows I watched were cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons, if not less, and those that made it as far as a third or fourth season were the rare successes, while five seasons was exceptional.

The thing is, the majority of shows that get cancelled after a season or less don't get remembered as well as the minority of long-running hits, which creates the illusion that a long run is the rule, rather than the exception that it's always, always been.
 
The original 'Addams Family' show premiered 61 years ago today. And from what I read, there are people who misrepresent this family as harassers on TikTok. :confused:
 
It's always weird to me when people talk about things that were always normal in TV as if they were somehow unique to the streaming era. It's always been the case that only a minority of shows get as much as three seasons, and getting five or more is exceptional. The reason the 1980s-90s Star Trek shows all ended after seven seasons was because the annual raises in cast and crew salaries made it too expensive to keep making the show beyond that point. Shows that run longer, like Law & Order, Smallville, or Power Rangers, get away with it through frequent cast turnaround, since new actors aren't paid as much as long-term actors. And no series on the Syfy cable network (originally known as The Sci-Fi Channel) ever lasted more than five seasons on the network; the only ones that had longer runs were ones that moved to Syfy after originally airing somewhere else (like Stargate SG-1, which had five seasons on Showtime and five on Syfy).

This is particularly true of science fiction and fantasy. Prior to Star Trek: The Next Generation, the only live-action American SF/fantasy shows I know of that lasted longer than 5 years were Adventures of Superman, Bewitched, and Dark Shadows. And there were only a few with 5-year runs, including The Twilight Zone, The Six Million Dollar Man, and The Incredible Hulk. When I was growing up, most of the genre shows I watched were cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons, if not less, and those that made it as far as a third or fourth season were the rare successes, while five seasons was exceptional.

The thing is, the majority of shows that get cancelled after a season or less don't get remembered as well as the minority of long-running hits, which creates the illusion that a long run is the rule, rather than the exception that it's always, always been.
Yeah...but what makes today a bit different is that a season was usually 20ish episodes long and not todays standard of 6 to 10ish. And the wait between seasons was a year at the most...not anywhere between 1 and 3 years as today.
 
Yeah...but what makes today a bit different is that a season was usually 20ish episodes long and not todays standard of 6 to 10ish. And the wait between seasons was a year at the most...not anywhere between 1 and 3 years as today.

Okay, but how does that make any difference to a show's odds of getting cancelled? Like I said, even back when shows had seasons of 30 episodes or longer, it was still far more common to get cancelled after one season or less than to make it to a third or fourth season.

If anything, my anecdotal experience is that the shows I like getting renewed is something that happens more often in the streaming era than it did in the '70s or '80s. That's probably because there were just so many shows back then competing for space on just a handful of channels, and most of them fell by the wayside quickly.
 
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I really wonder how much money this girl has made from all the crappy movies she's been in lately, starring a lot of famous actors. She also wears expensive fashions to the galas and award ceremonies she attends. She probably makes a lot of money from her Wednesday TV show, her commercials, the crappy but entertaining movies she's been starring in lately, starring a lot of famous actors, and being the brand ambassador for Dior makeup.
 
I really wonder how much money this girl has made from all the crappy movies she's been in lately, starring a lot of famous actors. She also wears expensive fashions to the galas and award ceremonies she attends. She probably makes a lot of money from her Wednesday TV show, her commercials, the crappy but entertaining movies she's been starring in lately, starring a lot of famous actors, and being the brand ambassador for Dior makeup.
What concern is it of ours?
 
At an event Jenna Ortega attended, she was asked who her hero was. She replied, "It's the Palestinian people." Jenna constantly talks about this issue. I think the reason she wasn't canceled like her close friend Melissa Barrera is because while Melissa Barrera directly targeted Israel and America, Jenna didn't target Israel or America, but spoke kindly, like Palestinians were her heroes.
 

On the hit show Wednesday, another person said, Friedlander’s agreeable nature was again a problem. “It would have been great if someone at Netflix had put Jenna Ortega in her place from the jump,” this source said, alleging that the young star complained about every aspect of the job, from the money to the location. She also publicly criticized the show’s writers in comments that she subsequently walked back, telling Vanity Fair, “I probably could have used my words better in describing all of that.”
 
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Yes, Wednesday and Tyler will definitely have a romance. By the way, according to Jenna Ortega in an interview, the writers write the scripts for the episodes during filming and send them to the shoot. I read that Netflix did this with Money Heist before.
 
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Yes, Wednesday and Tyler will definitely have a romance. By the way, according to Jenna Ortega in an interview, the writers write the scripts for the episodes during filming and send them to the shoot. I read that Netflix did this with Money Heist before.

i can imagine in season 3 tyler is face aka good guy with help from the music teacher of coruse

i also can imagine in season 3 pugsley and eugene are camping and hanging out then they encounter the season 3 heels aka bad guys and tyler saves them from the cronies of whoever the biggest heels aka bad guys in season 3 will be
 
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Yes, Wednesday and Tyler will definitely have a romance. By the way, according to Jenna Ortega in an interview, the writers write the scripts for the episodes during filming and send them to the shoot. I read that Netflix did this with Money Heist before.
When I saw the comments in the quote, I came across a group called the Weyler Community. Why does such a group exist? And why am I seeing groups? I wanted to curse Elon. But this isn't the place. I thought everyone was supporting the Wednesday and Enid relationship. Even in Turkey, a Wtyler account appeared.
 
Surprising to see an actor named Doohan who isn't related to James Doohan. I've long found it interesting that so many Star Trek TOS lead actors had such uncommon surnames. I've never heard of anyone with the surname Shatner or Nimoy outside of the actors' relatives, and I've only come across a couple of people named Takei in the Japanese shows I watch. Though I think I've seen a Schattner somewhere, and I just discovered today that there's a Japanese screenwriter/theater director/origami artist named Shatner Nishida, whose parents I'm guessing were big Trekkies. (He's written a couple of installments of the Lupin III anime franchise.) I also had a grade-school classmate named Nichelle Nicholes, but since she would've been born around 1968 like me, she was presumably named after the actress.
 
Surprising to see an actor named Doohan who isn't related to James Doohan. I've long found it interesting that so many Star Trek TOS lead actors had such uncommon surnames. I've never heard of anyone with the surname Shatner or Nimoy outside of the actors' relatives, and I've only come across a couple of people named Takei in the Japanese shows I watch. Though I think I've seen a Schattner somewhere, and I just discovered today that there's a Japanese screenwriter/theater director/origami artist named Shatner Nishida, whose parents I'm guessing were big Trekkies. (He's written a couple of installments of the Lupin III anime franchise.) I also had a grade-school classmate named Nichelle Nicholes, but since she would've been born around 1968 like me, she was presumably named after the actress.

Yes, interestingly, unlike James, Hunter is gay and a married man.
 
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Three people sit in beige theater seats in a dimly lit screening room with reserved cushions. Left person is a man with short dark hair wearing a brown jacket over a white shirt, holding a drink, legs crossed. Middle person is a woman with curly hair in a black and white striped sweater, smiling, holding a drink. Right person is a woman with long dark hair in a black leather jacket, leaning back relaxed. Background shows theater screens and equipment.
 
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