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Bob Justman....Indiana Jones....Spielberg....and Close Encounters

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In 2004, after Curt and I sent some restored TOS images to Bob Justman, he called me one afternoon and we had a nice little chat about Star Trek and various other topics. At the end, he asked for my mailing address. He wouldn't tell me why....he said I'd have to wait and see. Several days later, I received a package in the mail that included the following letter. It's in the form you see it here for an important reason: the original was stolen. It was in a special binder that included a lot of Star Trek contact sheets, rare mounted film clips, contact sheets from Diamonds Are Forever, unpublished photos of Marilyn Monroe, and an autographed photo of John Wayne that he sent to me when I was 7 years old. It was a horrible loss. Curt has all of the Star Trek material digitally archived in his computer system, so that is something, anyway.

At the time, my flatbed scanner had bitten the dust and I had not bought another one yet. There was something about Bob's letter that nagged at me, but I couldn't put my finger on it right away. I wanted to keep a copy handy, while safely tucking the original away. (Or so I thought.) So, I just typed up a copy. I didn't bother to note the date, but I think it was in May or June of 2004. Here is the text of it:

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What you don't see, that I did not attempt to duplicate, is that between Best Regards and his typed name, he hand-signed Bob beside a little sketch of the Titanic. The bow section was on its way to the bottom, while the stern continued to 'bob' for a moment. It was really cool.

At some point later on, I finally found out what had been nagging me about the letter. He had said George Barris, when he should have said Gene Winfield.

I sent him a letter thanking him for the hat and I recall asking him if things ever got tense enough that he wanted to make a Gene Coonskin hat. I hope he got a little chuckle out of that.

The hat set me off on some deep research for quite a while. The origin story of Indy's hat is more complicated than the (sometimes conflicting) stories from Deborah Nadoolman-Landis and the hatmaker Herbert Johnson. The rest of Indy's costume aside, his hat owes more to one that Spielberg himself wore while filming Close Encounters than it does to the one worn by Charlton Heston in Secret of the Incas. Here are a couple of pics:

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Sources say there was a bit of a rift between Spielberg and Lucas over the height of the crown of Indy's hat, but Spielberg managed to get one included for the Streets of Cairo scenes that was closer to his own than others were. Some people like that one and others absolutely hate it.

Anyhow, I was able to track down two more of the behind-the-scenes hats that were experimented with at the studio. None were ever on screen in the movies, but they are pretty cool just the same. One is the prototype for Stetson's 'Temple' fedora. They wanted to displace Herbert Johnson and get the contract to supply the hats, but Paramount did not bring them onboard.

Here is a pic of yours truly, taken last Halloween, complete with Covid mask like Harrison Ford wore between takes while filming Dial of Destiny. :D This is the third hat....neither the one that Bob sent me, nor the Stetson. Note the lighter color, including the ribbon:

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They experimented with different color variations. There was a gray one, known as the 'Panama Clipper', that as far as I am aware is still MIA.

I will dig out all 3 hats tomorrow and get some pics posted here. :)
 
Okay, here we go with hat pics.

This is the one that Bob sent to me:

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Here you can see that they removed the band. This and the second hat are from Pedigree Fifth Avenue. That company went out of business circa the mid 1950s. One complaint people had against their hats was that there was no liner, such as you will see with the more upscale Stetson. Personally, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

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Here you can see the 'staple holes':

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This is the second hat:

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Band fully in place on that one:

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This is the Stetson. The ribbon needs a little work at the very front. This one went from Paramount to the costume department of a theatre for a while:

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The black marker stuff just visible at the back end of the liner had to do with the theatre's inventory system to keep track of their stock of garments. Note that the band is completely blank:

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The regular production Stetson Temple model has this on the band:

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When Paramount rejected Stetson's offer, Stetson adapted. The company knew that Paramount could not copyright the word temple, so that's how they got around the issue. Their hats don't mention Indiana Jones and they don't say 'The Temple of Doom'. They just say 'The Temple'. Their advertising can include words about adventurers, etc, and Paramount can't do a thing about that. Stetson can capitalize on the association in the minds of customers, without having to pay a penny to Paramount.

I'm waiting for Stetson to change the name of their 'Sovereign' model fedora to 'The Dixon'. ;):lol:
 
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Back in high school in 1985, when I got a medical treatment that made my skin hypersensitive to UV light so that I had to buy a hat, gloves, scarf, etc. to cover up, I bought a Stetson that was sold as an "Indiana Jones Authentic Hat," though mine was (and is) gray instead of brown. So they must've had a license by then.
 
Back in high school in 1985, when I got a medical treatment that made my skin hypersensitive to UV light so that I had to buy a hat, gloves, scarf, etc. to cover up, I bought a Stetson that was sold as an "Indiana Jones Authentic Hat," though mine was (and is) gray instead of brown. So they must've had a license by then.
Stetson, and other hatmakers, sometimes negotiate short-term licenses for special promotions that may not involve their long-term product lines. Also, the Stetson 'official' Indy hats were a bit of a different animal than 'The Temple'....difference in materials, quality, etc. I have a gray one myself that I altered slightly for cosplaying Jim Hopper from Stranger Things. :hugegrin:

Edit: Was that a prescription for Accutane, for acne, by any chance? I went through that. My digestive system is still a mess from it, to this day.
 
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Also, the Stetson 'official' Indy hats were a bit of a different animal than 'The Temple'....difference in materials, quality, etc. I have a gray one myself that I altered slightly for cosplaying Jim Hopper from Stranger Things.

I altered mine just after I bought it, since I found a short yellow feather lying around and stuck it in the brim. It's still there 40 years later.


Edit: Was that a prescription for Accutane, for acne, by any chance? I went through that. My digestive system is still a mess from it, to this day.

No, it was an experimental melanoma treatment using a hematoporphyrin dye that was supposed to make my retinal melanoma more vulnerable to being zapped by a laser. It didn't work, and it left me with a permanent blind spot and distorted vision in my left eye (though another experimental procedure in New York City involving a cobalt plaque and hyperthermia was successful the following year), but I had to stay home for a couple of weeks with the windows covered, and when I went back to school I had to stay bundled up and slathered in sunblock to avoid burning. Basically it gave me a temporary, iatrogenic (medically induced) case of porphyria, the condition that may have contributed to the myths about vampires, because it makes people pale and anemic and unable to tolerate sunlight. So I was kind of a vampire for a little while. But a vampire with a cool fedora.

The interesting thing is that, within a couple of weeks of my coming back to school wearing a gray fedora of a style that hadn't been fashionable in decades, I started to notice a couple of other people in my school wearing gray fedoras. And within months, I saw actors on TV game shows and the like wearing gray fedoras. So I've often wondered if I accidentally started a fashion trend. Which would be ironic, since I'm as far from fashion-conscious as you can get. (Which is why I got an Indiana Jones Authentic Hat instead of something more 1980s. Well, that and the wide brim, which I needed.)
 
I altered mine just after I bought it, since I found a short yellow feather lying around and stuck it in the brim. It's still there 40 years later.




No, it was an experimental melanoma treatment using a hematoporphyrin dye that was supposed to make my retinal melanoma more vulnerable to being zapped by a laser. It didn't work, and it left me with a permanent blind spot and distorted vision in my left eye (though another experimental procedure in New York City involving a cobalt plaque and hyperthermia was successful the following year), but I had to stay home for a couple of weeks with the windows covered, and when I went back to school I had to stay bundled up and slathered in sunblock to avoid burning. Basically it gave me a temporary, iatrogenic (medically induced) case of porphyria, the condition that may have contributed to the myths about vampires, because it makes people pale and anemic and unable to tolerate sunlight. So I was kind of a vampire for a little while. But a vampire with a cool fedora.

The interesting thing is that, within a couple of weeks of my coming back to school wearing a gray fedora of a style that hadn't been fashionable in decades, I started to notice a couple of other people in my school wearing gray fedoras. And within months, I saw actors on TV game shows and the like wearing gray fedoras. So I've often wondered if I accidentally started a fashion trend. Which would be ironic, since I'm as far from fashion-conscious as you can get. (Which is why I got an Indiana Jones Authentic Hat instead of something more 1980s. Well, that and the wide brim, which I needed.)
Wow....I'm glad that the second procedure worked for you. Yes, that level of caused UV sensitivity is more extreme than what went on with the Accutane, which was basically a deliberate overdose of vitamin A.

The vampire thing reminds me of the movie Van Helsing....the hat that Hugh Jackman wore was closer to the one from Secret of the Incas, though still not the same. In my opinion, the one that Charlton Heston wore was just....odd.
 
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