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Spoilers Alien Earth (2025 Hulu show)

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Right, but that would have to have happened before the message Morrow receives about the death of his daughter, which is on W-Y letterhead and is apparently ~ 8 years into the mission. ( The math doesn't add up because it also appears to say he'll be returning in 53 years. That's why I wrote 'the 2060s' instead of a specific year. )

I'm still thinking he could be a synthetic -- going by the first film, a stealth synthetic wouldn't be out of the question. But notably we didn't get to see what color he bleeds. I guess his 'obsession' reminded me of what David was doing in Prometheus, in addition to his other mannerisms.

Ah, cool I hadn't picked up on the date of the letter, only the content. So am I right that conventional wisdom is that W-Y merged around 2099?

He could be a synthetic, or maybe the length of the trip and relative isolation tipped him over the edge (or he was always a weird stalker type!)
 
Ah, cool I hadn't picked up on the date of the letter, only the content.
I only noticed the fact that it said Weyland-Yutani upon rewatch. The timing is sort of baked into the content, though -- his daughter is supposed to have been only 18 when she died. It all goes by pretty fast and my eyes aren't the best, thank you pause button!
So am I right that conventional wisdom is that W-Y merged around 2099?
I think so, I guess the intent was to put it after Prometheus.
 
I'm still thinking he could be a synthetic -- going by the first film, a stealth synthetic wouldn't be out of the question. But notably we didn't get to see what color he bleeds. I guess his 'obsession' reminded me of what David was doing in Prometheus, in addition to his other mannerisms.
A lot of signs seem to point in that direction and after his latest appearance I felt it was reinforced even more. His demise though seemed very human. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him again. There's definitely a sense that there is more happening on that ship than we are aware.
 
We just got the "all hell breaks loose" on the ship episode. It happens whenever there is a xenomorph around. Add the eyeball monster and it becomes a double whammy.

What I wish we would also have been shown was how this ragtag crew managed to capture all those dastardly clever creatures in the first place.
 
Sigourney Weaver is a fan of the show:
"I'm really enjoying it," Sigourney Weaver — who played Ellen Ripley — said at the PEOPLE/EW and Shutterstock Studio at the Toronto International Film Festival on Monday, Sept. 8, while promoting her new movie, Dust Bunny.​
"What I admire about it is the scope is so much more profound than just an Alien movie," the actress, 75, added. "It's about our world and what's dominating the world in 100 years, and to me it's right on."​
Weaver praised Hawley's concept of the "new creatures based on children," referencing the hybrids, synthetic beings with human consciousness, like Sydney Chandler's Wendy.​
"All these things are so remarkable and they're just building and building and building," she said.​
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"And the monsters that he's also bringing in are just terrifying. It's like, we don't have enough problems with the alien, we need 50 more," Weaver gushed. "I can't believe I'm watching TV."​
 
…okay, so in this version of the Alienverse, they don’t have FTL travel yet — which presumably includes the already-in-transit Nostromo. That rather changes things.
 
Nice to see the development from burster to adult! It curled down from the ceiling like in its first appearance in Isolation.
Was red hair's "Where they are" a Vasquez reference? :D
And the Creep Sheep just watches :crazy:
 
I take it there are no alarms in that containment room? Seems odd that this can go on and no one notices.
 
…okay, so in this version of the Alienverse, they don’t have FTL travel yet — which presumably includes the already-in-transit Nostromo. That rather changes things.
So this show is not only contradicting the prequels, but the original movies as well?
:brickwall::brickwall::brickwall::brickwall:
 
Hawley specifically said the only Canon he was worried about was Alien (and partially Aliens), but if this show does stuff that doesn't even match up with those movies, it only reinforces my stance,that we,need to treat this IP like the Transformers IP: as,a bunch of self-contained sub-franchises.
 
6 degrees my ass! :lol: That was prime stupidity on display but i guess the Alien franchise post Prometheus just decided that all scientists may be experts in their fields but otherwise have to lack basic common sense and intelligence.

So now we know 4 of the kill methods of the alien organisms, still don't know how hanging tentacle cocoon alien kills but i have a feeling we'll find out soon enough.

What is Kirsh's deal? Right now the easiest explanation is that he works for Yutani. He listened in on Morrow talking to Slightly, he watched everything go down in the secure lab and then lied to Cavalier. I hope there's more to it but we'll see.

I don't know if i should feel sorry for Dame Sylivia or not. She seems to truly care about the kids but then again treats them like property when ordered to do so by the company - she's the prototypical amoral scientist only interested in the work itself without thinking about the ethics. At least Oppenheimer realized what he'd done when it was to late and had regrets.

I also so love the production design and how they perform a balancing act between 70s era tech ( the style on the Maginot and the computer systems on the island) while clearly showing contemporary ideas of Science Fiction with much sleeker designs and a higher tech feeling.

Damn that will be one hell of a finale that's currently cooking - the secure lab is done, a facehugger went to work with a Xenomorph already almost grown up, metal eating bugs on the loose and the ever so creepy eyeball alien watching it all and making plans. Yutani is sending her killer to wreck havoc on the island ( the interaction between him and Kirsh in he elevator was pure gold) that basically throwing gasoline on an already burning fire and i don't know how the kids will feature into all of it, much less Wendy who can control the Xenomorph ( how????).

Hawley specifically said the only Canon he was worried about was Alien (and partially Aliens), but if this show does stuff that doesn't even match up with those movies, it only reinforces my stance,that we,need to treat this IP like the Transformers IP: as,a bunch of self-contained sub-franchises.

What IS canon after all when you look at it objectively?

Alien tells us that their company knew about LV-246 and diverted the crew of the Nostromo to go there and pick up alien specimen, that's it. Since the crew apart from Ash knew nothing about the Xenomorph and Ash likely also didn't know much more apart from the secret directive to bring it back ( crew expendable) that's it.

Aliens introduced the hive structure, a level of intelligence and the Hive Queen ( possibly the source of the intelligence) and that's it. If you disregard Prometheus and Covenant ( which Hawley does and openly stated so) the official canon is quite thin which leaves a wide open playing ground for the entire universe.
 
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What is Kirsh's deal? Right now the easiest explanation is that he works for Yutani. He listened in on Morrow talking to Slightly, he watched everything go down in the secure lab and then lied to Cavalier. I hope there's more to it but we'll see.
Or he's playing some kind of long game. I thought maybe they were setting up a later fight between him and Morrow.
 
If you disregard Prometheus and Covenant ( which Hawley does and openly stated so) the official canon is quite thin which leaves a wide open playing ground for the entire universe.
If you take away FTL travel, you trip over travel times in the original movies that depend on FTL travel. Unless we're supposed to think FTL travel was invented between 2120 and 2122?
 
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