Harlan maintained that he didn't write science fiction because he didn't really deal with science in his works. So he came up with the umbrella term, "speculative fiction."
I recall that he adored Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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I think half of his appearance at the con I went to was devoted to this.
Worf is one of my least favourite characters in STAR TREK. Between the two series he appeared in, he CONSTANTLY vacillated between the Federation and the Klingon Empire to the point where it became annoying and at times is dumb and ignorant. I have always put the extreme Worf love (by male ST fans) down to "The Wolverine Syndrome". Young males whether consciously or subconsciously are attracted to these hyper stylized versions of masculinity but don't want to face their own latent homosexual feelings. I've pondered this for DECADES now.
Interesting interpretation. Not sure I buy it, but interesting.
Well... that's certainly in keeping with the thread title.
Say what now?
I never liked Worf.
Either as a young man or now older dude. The fact that he can kill people with little concern from his superiors annoys me.
It's much more commonly "Dodds." That was what his last name was for the entire 70-issue run of Sandman Mystery Theatre in the 1990s, and has been ever since. Yeah, he was called "Dodd" in a couple of random stories here & there decades ago, but literally no one cares about that outside of Roy Thomas.
"Wes Dodd" is the James R. Kirk of Justice Society comics.
Until he was writing the intro to The Rocketeer. Then Raiders was soulless and dead and running on lifeless nostalgia. He really didn't seem to be able to love something without hating something else.
Wut?
I’ve never really noticed this phenomenon vis a vis Worf in particular, but this sort of thing certainly happens; I’d alternately call it Daryl Dixon Syndrome.
The UFP / StarFleet is tolerant of Klingon Cultural Practices & the option to kill on occaision.
If that means you have to eliminate a few dudes to crown the new Klingon Chancellor of the High Council (2x Mind You), they're more than happy to accept their ways.
Remember, it's the Vulcans who came up with the concept of the "Vulcan Hello" for the Klingons after their own species disasterous encounter with the Klingons their first time.
Slug what now?
Blood Oath paints a different picture:
DAX: Kira shouldn't have told you.
SISKO: Kira is my First Officer.
DAX: I don't have to tell you what this oath meant to Curzon.
SISKO: Jadzia Dax took an oath too, when she joined Starfleet. You're subject to orders, Lieutenant.
DAX: Don't do it, Benjamin. Don't make me disobey a direct order.
SISKO: I never understood this. I mean, whatever else Curzon was, he did have a fundamental morality. He wouldn't condone murder any more than I would, and yet he swore to kill this Albino and now you plan to go out and kill in his name. What about the laws of the Federation?
DAX: The Klingons have their own set of laws. This is justice to them.
SISKO: And to you?
DAX: I've chosen to respect their codes of honour in this matter, yes.
SISKO: You really think you're capable of doing this?
DAX: I don't know. There's only one way to find out, isn't there.
SISKO: Let's say you are. Let's say you even survive this insanity. You expect to just come back here and resume your duties as though nothing's happened?
ETA:
Honestly, Picard was not so happy either:
PICARD: Mister Worf, your service aboard the Enterprise has been exemplary. Until now.
WORF: Sir, I have acted within the boundaries of Klingon law and tradition.
PICARD: The High Council would seem to agree. They consider the matter closed. I don't. Mister Worf, the Enterprise crew currently includes representatives from thirteen planets. They each have their individual beliefs and values and I respect them all. But they have all chosen to serve Starfleet. If anyone cannot perform his or her duty because of the demands of their society, they should resign. Do you wish to resign?
WORF: No, sir.
PICARD: I had hoped you would not throw away a promising career. I understand your loss, We all admired K'Ehleyr. A reprimand will appear on your record. Dismissed. Mister Worf, isn't it time for the truth about your father's innocence to be told? After all, you only accepted this dishonour to protect the name of Duras and hold the Empire together. Now that he has died in disgrace, what is gained by further silence?
WORF: Each member of the Klingon High Council has shared in that lie. They will not be so willing to admit their own dishonour. But the day will come when my brother and I will convince them to speak the truth.
~Reunion (TNG).
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And Dax returned from the mission and resumed her duties, she was never punished for it by the UFP or StarFleet for that matter.
Remember, as far as they're concerned, those are "Internal Klingon Matters", remember the "Prime Directive".
Nope. That's not accurate at all. That the CO opted to not pursue the matter does not mean there are not laws regarding it.
And I edited but Picard had this to say in Reunion post Duras' death:
PICARD: Mister Worf, your service aboard the Enterprise has been exemplary. Until now.
WORF: Sir, I have acted within the boundaries of Klingon law and tradition.
PICARD: The High Council would seem to agree. They consider the matter closed. I don't. Mister Worf, the Enterprise crew currently includes representatives from thirteen planets. They each have their individual beliefs and values and I respect them all. But they have all chosen to serve Starfleet. If anyone cannot perform his or her duty because of the demands of their society, they should resign. Do you wish to resign?
WORF: No, sir.
PICARD: I had hoped you would not throw away a promising career. I understand your loss, We all admired K'Ehleyr. A reprimand will appear on your record. Dismissed. Mister Worf, isn't it time for the truth about your father's innocence to be told? After all, you only accepted this dishonour to protect the name of Duras and hold the Empire together. Now that he has died in disgrace, what is gained by further silence?
WORF: Each member of the Klingon High Council has shared in that lie. They will not be so willing to admit their own dishonour. But the day will come when my brother and I will convince them to speak the truth.
StarFleet / Picard "Officially gave him 'A Reprimand', that's about as much of a 'Slap on the Wrist' for causing HUGE AstroPolitical change that is in favor to the UFP / StarFleet".
It basically allowed the UFP / StarFleet to install a Klingon Chancellor that was in their favor and owed Worf a few favors for helping him get into power.
The fact that they didn't 'Boot him out of StarFleet' or 'Throw him in Jail for murder' tells you what you need to know.
Remember, Worf eventually made Captain down the line, this little action like (Murder & installing the Next Klingon Chancellor) didn't hurt his career.
Heck, even with the loss of the Enterprise-E, "Wasn't his Fault".
While that may be true, we don't know the details of that incident, he still manages to be incredibly important to StarFleet and gets to work as a "Sub Contractor" for StarFleet Intelligence.
Talk about being 'Gainfully Employed' & Always in the 'Thick of Action' near major incidents.
Not really, no.
It tells me there are laws and the captains have discretion. That doesn't mean they are ambivalent towards it or event tolerant; just that they are not going to ruin his career.
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