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The movie version of 1984 is even more bleak and depressing, perhaps due to the colour palette used, ie very dreary looking, and no doubt due to the visuals.
 
Due to deciding to watch anything John Hurt is in, I saw the movie. I could not say it was enjoyable, and bleak is a very accurate way to describe it.
 
No, I wouldn't exactly describe it as enjoyable that's for sure. It also feels very claustrophobic, which may be part of the point. Still, I think it's an interesting watch in terms of its history. I think it's the visuals from that movie that Apple based its first commercial on.

The 1966 movie version of Fahrenheit 451 is also interesting in the same sense. They recently made a new adaptation of the story that missed the point entirely.

On a lighter note with something completely unrelated, we have a new car wash in this city, and it's named after a former strip club. I wish I were joking :lol: The strip club closed down more than 5 years ago, (it was next door to a high school no less), and there'd been this former BK property sitting unused for the last 15 years or so elsewhere in the city, and earlier this winter I was surprised to see something finally happening to it in the form of a new luxury car wash that they were advertising would be opening this Spring. It only just opened a few weeks ago. It's literally the same logo as the old strip club.
 
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Sad times... word on the street is that iconic Canadian animation studio Nelvana has quietly shuttered, after 54 years. :(

If you're not familiar with them, but the name sounds familiar: the Nelvana System in TNG: "The Defector" was named after the studio. (And in turn, the studio was apparently named after an early Canadian superhero.)

Nelvana's current owner, Corus Entertainment, released a statement today saying that they are only "pausing" production "for the time being". But who knows what that really means. The people who worked there are framing it as a closure. (Corus also said the brand will live on, focused on "distribution, merchandising, and managing existing properties", so take that as you will.)

If it is really gone, then there goes another Canadian cultural giant. A sad day all around.
 
Hi,i need to ask you guys about something happening in your country. I have seen alot of anti indian posts and comments recently on social media made by Canadians in recent weeks. I guess it is due to a huge influx of indian immigrants into Canada in recent years that has gotten some folks upset.

As a Singaporean whose ancestors left 19th century india, when it was still the British Raj, i am curious about what is happening and wonder if you guys can help me understand what is going on.

In Singapore, we have had new immigrants from india in recent years. The new immigrants and those descended from the British colonial era immigrants usually don't mix around as we don't think the same way.
 
There was a falling out between Canada and India a few years back in large part to trudeau trying to go native on a visit there and he never got along with modhi,

Canada also has a large Sikh population and the Indian government was accused of involvement with the murder of prominent figure in the community who was pushing for an independent homeland.

modhi being a Hindu nationalist and leading a party with fascist roots wants the Sikh separatists jumped on from great height but they aren’t breaking and laws here.
 
It was so nice when we didn’t have endure poilievres whining but he’s back with vengeance.

Now calling for the temporary migrant worker program to be scrapped saying it makes it hard for young Canadians to get jobs.

I wonder if he’s aware that the business sector is the largest driver for the program and that jobs are frequently ones that Canadians won’t do or the businesses don’t want to pay a good wage.

 
No, I wouldn't exactly describe it as enjoyable that's for sure. It also feels very claustrophobic, which may be part of the point. Still, I think it's an interesting watch in terms of its history. I think it's the visuals from that movie that Apple based its first commercial on.

The 1966 movie version of Fahrenheit 451 is also interesting in the same sense. They recently made a new adaptation of the story that missed the point entirely.

On a lighter note with something completely unrelated, we have a new car wash in this city, and it's named after a former strip club. I wish I were joking :lol: The strip club closed down more than 5 years ago, (it was next door to a high school no less), and there'd been this former BK property sitting unused for the last 15 years or so elsewhere in the city, and earlier this winter I was surprised to see something finally happening to it in the form of a new luxury car wash that they were advertising would be opening this Spring. It only just opened a few weeks ago. It's literally the same logo as the old strip club.

"Would you like a lap dance while your car goes thru the wash?"
 
The funny thing is that anyone who knows the history of the name belonging to a former strip club is that it's rather difficult to seperate the old with the new, so no matter what they do, for some it will still associate them with the strip club, and it really doesn't help that it has V.I.P in the name as that was part of the original name as well.

I can imagine what happened though. Those that owned the club still wanted to do something with the name rather than having an old logo and name they had go to waste.
 
i am curious about what is happening and wonder if you guys can help me understand what is going on.

In addition to what @Marc said… Canada had recently, until this year, significantly increased its immigration targets in order to sustain our population, since based on our birth rates, we have negative population growth. A lot of those immigrants came from India. A lot of what you are seeing on social media is just basic racism, which unfortunately, a lot more people seem more comfortable with espousing these days.

It was so nice when we didn’t have endure poilievres whining

I’m not religious, but I’ll give you an “amen” for that.
 
In addition to what @Marc said… Canada had recently, until this year, significantly increased its immigration targets in order to sustain our population, since based on our birth rates, we have negative population growth. A lot of those immigrants came from India. A lot of what you are seeing on social media is just basic racism, which unfortunately, a lot more people seem more comfortable with espousing these days.

Singapore also has a low birth rate and that is also falling. Hence we are getting new immigrants from india and china as well.
 
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The attempts at bigotry enforcement continue, of course, to my disgust. I'm sure that my saying as much here and elsewhere has put me on an enemies list.
 
Well, my birthday will always have a twinge of sadness going forward. One of Canada’s all time greats, and a hockey legend and hero of mine as a kid, Ken Dryden, passed away yesterday.
 
Well, my birthday will always have a twinge of sadness going forward. One of Canada’s all time greats, and a hockey legend and hero of mine as a kid, Ken Dryden, passed away yesterday.

I’m not really into sports, but the name seemed vaguely familiar, so I looked him up on Wikipedia, and it turns out he was a Liberal MP for a number of years, so that’s probably where I heard the name from.

At any rate, I’m very sorry for your loss. It is always very sad when one’s hero passes on.

(And happy(?) belated birthday.)
 
I’m not really into sports, but the name seemed vaguely familiar, so I looked him up on Wikipedia, and it turns out he was a Liberal MP for a number of years, so that’s probably where I heard the name from.

At any rate, I’m very sorry for your loss. It is always very sad when one’s hero passes on.

(And happy(?) belated birthday.)
It was a happy one (I’m always happy to reach another one 😉). Dryden was exceptional, both on and off the ice. Even if you aren’t into sports, I strongly recommend his book, The Game. I think it offers some of the best insights into why hockey is so important in and for Canada, despite its now 40+ year old age. A very rare example of an athlete (though he was so much more) who was a valid role model, both for his sport and for life in general.
 
Hi,i need to ask you guys about something happening in your country. I have seen alot of anti indian posts and comments recently on social media made by Canadians in recent weeks. I guess it is due to a huge influx of indian immigrants into Canada in recent years that has gotten some folks upset.

It depends. Those who make the effort to embrace the multicultural mosaic we have are not the problem. The ones who try to impose their culture where it's inappropriate to do so can be a problem.

There was a falling out between Canada and India a few years back in large part to trudeau trying to go native on a visit there and he never got along with modhi,

Canada also has a large Sikh population and the Indian government was accused of involvement with the murder of prominent figure in the community who was pushing for an independent homeland.

modhi being a Hindu nationalist and leading a party with fascist roots wants the Sikh separatists jumped on from great height but they aren’t breaking and laws here.

Yeah, it can basically be summed up as "politics and Justin Trudeau wanting to show off his bhangra dancing". Not to mention he and his family were very inappropriately dressed for that trip.

The attempts at bigotry enforcement continue, of course, to my disgust. I'm sure that my saying as much here and elsewhere has put me on an enemies list.

The CPC and UCP are fostering a culture of hate. Not that there wasn't already one, but they're deliberately making it worse.
 
$deity help the Ontario liberals.

crombie has announced she’s quitting as leader and in the wings and pushing for her replacement is nate reskins-brown who seems to think the leadership should be his as consolidation since Carney dropped him from cabinet.

Can the liberals please learn there are times when recycling is not a good thing.
 
Hey everyone, listen... no, come on, listen, everyone.

Pete Hoekstra is disappointed in us.

He is apparently disappointed with the whole "elbows up" attitude (and #MeToo, for some reason... I didn't realize that was a Canadian-only thing, but I guess we can all figure out why the current US administration is against it), as well as our government officials just stating the basic fact that we are in a trade war.

And he just doesn't understand why we're being this way. I mean, what have they ever done to us, right? The US is obviously totally innocent in this situation. Sure, there have been the tariffs, the trade war (which apparently isn't really real?), the made-up fentanyl problem at the border, the incarceration of our citizens by ICE, the increased problems crossing the border, including being challenged and turned away for having anti-Trump memes on our phones, and the never-ending taunts and threats against our sovereignty as a nation. But that's just what friends do, you know? Why do we have to go and make such a big deal about it??

I guess Trump is right, and we are just "mean" and "nasty" after all. Not stocking their booze on our shelves, not buying their products in the grocery stores, not going there on vacation... all totally uncalled for. And all very disappointing to Mr. Hoekstra.

So to Mr. Hoekstra, let me just say... yes, we're disappointed you came here too. And we are MORE THAN "disappointed" with your whole administration, tossing away decades of allyship and friendship like that, and doing its best to try to turn one of the world's most stable democracies into an authoritarian state.

And to my fellow Canadians... keep up the good work. If Hoekstra is disappointed, we must be doing something right! :techman:

And just a little compare and contrast to close out this little rant.

Today, Sunday September 21:

The Canadian government is: officially recognizing the State of Palestine, in conjunction with the UK and Australia, to try to bring some stability to the region and bring an end to the genocide. (And after US lawmakers sent a letter last week warning us not to do so, no less.)

The US administration is: taking part in a massive memorial to honour and celebrate a despicable human being who spewed his vile misogynist, racist, and anti-LGBTQ sentiments for all to hear, and who the administration is lionizing and somehow trying to gaslight us into believing was such a good, respectful person who was only "engaging in debate", and who any criticism of, including quoting their own words, is somehow now being framed as "disrespectful" and "hate speech". (And yes, I know we have our own issues with that, re: the standing ovation by some parliamentarians. Let's make sure they're called to task on that.)

But please, tell us again how you're disappointed with us.
 
Yeah, talk about not having a clue. A good ambassador should be able to find out why the Country they're hosted in is upset, shouldn't they? They should be able to discover that and suggest to their Administration how they can improve relations. But it's been quite clear that the current administration is not interested in listening. If they had a clue, they'd realize it all started when the 51st State rhetoric started, and that it's We the Canadian people who are disappointed in the American administration. What they don't realize is that all this gaslighting is only serving to make us stronger. The gaslighting and pleading feels like a man who's been abusive and then wonders why his wife doesn't want to come back to him "I put a knife in your back and you won't come back to me? Why not? I love you and I can't be without you! And you know you can't live without me! I provide for you and this is how you repay me?"
 
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